[Walter Sobchak]

Originally Posted by Costas

No (unfortunately) ..it is not a problem. The TV does save the Purecimema setting for each input. You will have to manually change for each setting / source you are watching

Its not saving the Purecinema setting for Input1 for me.

I have my BD35 via HDMI fed through my amp to Input1. When I have Purecinema on Advanced for INPUT1 and then swap to watch TV or SAT I have to turn it off. Then if I was to go back to INPUT1 purecinema would be still be turned off.

[Walter Sobchak]

Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi Walter.
The User preset can store independant settings per "Input" (Purecinema etc) the rest are global.
All the best.

Hi mate!

Ah I see, any way of copying the PURE mode settings to the USER preset then? as I believe that is the only preset I should be using?

[qwerty1234]

after owning my KRP for about a week i am incredibly impressed with the picture quality especially on SD content. Walle on bluray blew me away! However my niggles so far are that some Freeview channels, like 5 wont give a picture consistantly although every other freeview device in the house picks it up. the EPG is the slowest EPG i've used in years. My pannel produces a very loud buzzing when switched on for about 20 minutes until it has warmed up (audiable from 2 meteres away with tv volume at normal volume) wil contact TLC to seek they're opinion but anyone got any advice.

[wHoMe]

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

Hi mate!

Ah I see, any way of copying the PURE mode settings to the USER preset then? as I believe that is the only preset I should be using?

No ! USER is completely different even if you copy all settings from Pure

Movie on the other hand is near identical to Pure if you copy all Pure settings, or at least on mine it is I cant see a difference between the two on mine when set exactly the same

[YellowSphere]

Yeah, I would use cinema for TV (i.e. PureCinema off) and then Pure with PureCinema Advance for a BD/DVD player input, personally.

[Neath Boy]

Originally Posted by jezclayton

I have the KRPS03's and find them excellent for the price and far superior to the average tv sound.

Regards

I was initially disappointed by these speakers as I found the sound a bit thin. However, my expectations were high following a number of recommendations in this forum. Playing with the sound effects menu has helped, as has a good few days use from new.

Build quality and fit were execellent.

[Walter Sobchak]

Originally Posted by YellowSphere

Yeah, I would use cinema for TV (i.e. PureCinema off) and then Pure with PureCinema Advance for a BD/DVD player input, personally.

Yeh have just done that, looks pretty much the same!

[Daza]

I have just bought this KRP-A600 & I am not impressed with the pq with sky +. I sold my 5006 pioneer to replace with this A600, & i and my wife said the pq on the 5006 was a cleaner & clearer, like glass. My sis bought the 5008 & still the 5006 was better pq. I only bought the 60 because of the seperate media box & to go up in size. So far what iv seen i think the best pioneer was the 5006 & the 5000.

[malcolmk]

Originally Posted by Daza

I have just bought this KRP-A600 & I am not impressed with the pq with sky +. I sold my 5006 pioneer to replace with this A600, & i and my wife said the pq on the 5006 was a cleaner & clearer, like glass. My sis bought the 5008 & still the 5006 was better pq. I only bought the 60 because of the seperate media box & to go up in size. So far what iv seen i think the best pioneer was the 5006 & the 5000.

I gave my 506 to a friend and still see it often myself and the ungrateful wotsit tells me all the faults it has everytime she visits and sees the 600A.

I also see a 5000 occasionally. The 600A is in a different (and better) league.

[Jason Latif]

Originally Posted by Daza

I have just bought this KRP-A600 & I am not impressed with the pq with sky +. I sold my 5006 pioneer to replace with this A600, & i and my wife said the pq on the 5006 was a cleaner & clearer, like glass. My sis bought the 5008 & still the 5006 was better pq. I only bought the 60 because of the seperate media box & to go up in size. So far what iv seen i think the best pioneer was the 5006 & the 5000.

I'm surprised by your experience with SD. Of course, going to 60" means that signal defects are more apparent, however are you sure you are using all the correct settings and have the screen in 'Pure' mode with the contrast cranked down to about 32?

[Daza]

Yes using the set up from forum, i am using the same mains cables and i use cardas HDMI cables with a Mains conditioner. the pq just looks blur. 506 was so clear and clean, bluray is ok PS3. BUT A BIT

[Daza]

wHEN YOU SAY The 600A is in a different (and better) league. IS THAT WITH SKY OR BLURAY

[supersub40]

Originally Posted by Daza

wHEN YOU SAY The 600A is in a different (and better) league. IS THAT WITH SKY OR BLURAY

its probably a case of crap in and crap out. Source is all important esp on a 60incher

I have virgin V+ some channels like setanta are dreadful others like Channel5 are superb.

at times some SD look HD depending on the quality of the channel.

A 60 inch screen will show up a bad source even more so

[jezclayton]

Originally Posted by Daza

I have just bought this KRP-A600 & I am not impressed with the pq with sky +.

I have both my 6th and 9th generation screens in the same room (different walls and I just haven't taken the old one down yet) and can confirm that the 9th generation (500A) in my case is in a completely different league, regardless as to the input type.

You don't really give an awful lot of information other than the 5006 is better and your sky + picture is poor? How about posting some details as to all the sources you are using along with settings and your impression of the picture in each case.

I think you would be hard pressed to find an expert who would mirror your view that the 6th gen is a better screen, so I would start by assuming you have made a pigs ear of the setup. It happens to all of us.

[pheur]

Sorry if this has been asked before, I made a search but could not come up with something useful.

Can someone compare the default Pure settings with the User settings on a KRP model? What I mean is can you copy the settings from Pure to the User pre-setting and compare if there is a huge difference in the picture or not?

[potshot]

After checking out the KRP-500A and 5090 for buzzing and not hearing any I will be ordering this week. Nobody else experincing the buzzing since the last batch of post on it.

[Black Adder]

Originally Posted by potshot

After checking out the KRP-500A and 5090 for buzzing and not hearing any I will be ordering this week. Nobody else experincing the buzzing since the last batch of post on it.

All plasmas buzz. Some makes and models more than others. The question is whether you can hear the buzz from your viewing distance.

Up close my 5090 has a healthy buzz from being behind it in a completely quiet room esp when displaying at certain frequencies and fading to black, more than my 42" Panasonic does but the important factor is whether you can hear it from your viewing distance which I can't, and I'm paranoid about damned buzzing and fan noises.

So in the sensitive acoustics of my room where I can hear everything esp late at night, the buzz is irrelevant as it can't be heard from my viewing distance and surely that is all that matters?

The buzzing won't affect many people unless theirs has a problem of some kind or they sit a few feet from it to watch it.

[Costas]

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

Its not saving the Purecinema setting for Input1 for me.

I have my BD35 via HDMI fed through my amp to Input1. When I have Purecinema on Advanced for INPUT1 and then swap to watch TV or SAT I have to turn it off. Then if I was to go back to INPUT1 purecinema would be still be turned off.

Sorry I meant to say is NOT saving in my earlier post. I edited later. However, addtionally as Kingfats reminded me Purecinema can be saved together with the other parameters in the User Mode

[Costas]

Originally Posted by pheur

Sorry if this has been asked before, I made a search but could not come up with something useful.

Can someone compare the default Pure settings with the User settings on a KRP model? What I mean is can you copy the settings from Pure to the User pre-setting and compare if there is a huge difference in the picture or not?

I mentioned earlier in the thread. Copying from Pure to User mode all the settings it is not actually the same. Drive electronics for Pure are differently set up by Pioneer. You may get a "similar" picture but it will not be identical.

[blockbuy]

Morning all........well I got board last week being on holiday which meant I had time to wander into my local stealer.
Bad move on my part as I signed up for a 500a.
Not only that, but an LX71 and LX08. lol.

Note to self, keep busy, it's cheaper.

Now, I went the whole hog and bought speakers too. Pioneer S-V710-IV 5.1 set. Mainly as budget had gone and that was about all I could stretch too.

Anyone got these? Opinions?

ta

[potshot]

Black adder

Thanks for your reply, I was looking for a loud buzzing you can hear over the sound or in quiet scenes as reproted on here a while back. On plasma's I have listened to before you have to put your ear right upto the vents to hear it.

[Black Adder]

Originally Posted by potshot

Black adder

Thanks for your reply, I was looking for a loud buzzing you can hear over the sound or in quiet scenes as reproted on here a while back. On plasma's I have listened to before you have to put your ear right upto the vents to hear it.

You might have to put your ear right up to it to hear it in the quiet ambient subtle noise of a showroom, but in your own home at night it is clearly audible from the side or behind it and a few feet in front in the circumstances I outlined, but not at my viewing distance of about 9 feet.

If it's as noisy as the way you say some people have described, I would have thought there was something wrong with it.

[potshot]

Black adder

I listened to it in a demo room which was quiet, a dealer told me it could of been a bad batch the retailer picked.

I am waiting until thursday to buy to see if pricing is given for the new panasonic panel, half the power use/ less and better blacks. I have the feeling they will be over 3K and I not will to pay that price.

But its only a few days of waiting.

I don't think dealers are shifting panels now the xmas period is over with, every dealer I talk say I we have it in stock and will deliver next day. Kent home cinema told me before xmas they had 2 KRP-500 in stock in mid december and took my number if they were selling, I believe the same 2 panels are in stock.

[Black Adder]

Originally Posted by potshot

Black adder

I listened to it in a demo room which was quiet, a dealer told me it could of been a bad batch the retailer picked.

Well if it's that noisy from an alleged bad batch, then just return it for another, as clearly there would be a problem with it. I wouldn't have one in the house if I could hear buzzing from my viewing distance, which is one of the reasons I won't buy a KRP-A as the fan noise from the media box exceeds the buzz level at most peoples viewing distance and is clearly audible with volume muted in a quiet room at night, some say at low volume levels too, as well as varying the noise as the fan speeds up as it gets hotter, then slows down. Worry about the media box noise rather than the buzz from 9G KRPs. See earlier in this thread a few pages back.

[malcolmk]

Originally Posted by Black Adder

I won't buy a KRP-A as the fan noise from the media box exceeds the buzz level at most peoples viewing distance and is clearly audible with volume muted in a quiet room at night, some say at low volume levels too, as well as varying the noise as the fan speeds up as it gets hotter, then slows down. Worry about the media box noise rather than the buzz from 9G KRPs. See earlier in this thread a few pages back.

Until you (or someone) mentioned media box fan noise I wasn't aware there was a fan in it.

The buzzing is for the most part inaudible too. If everything is dead quiet I can tune my ear to it if the screen is showing a white on black menu or similar but never with a normal picture.

I thought it was only the obsessives on the M thread who were prepared to deprive themselves of the pleasure of owning and viewing a KRP because of some alleged fault that is not usually apparent.

Maybe there are some genuinely out of spec samples, in which case, the owners have my sympathy, but to refuse to buy a KRP because you fear you will get the same....

Better not buy an LG because of screen burn, a Panasonic because of purple snakes or a Samsung - <insert any reason here>.

[JimBob1971]

if everything is dead quiet I can tune my ear to it if the screen is showing a white on black menu or similar but never with a normal picture.

Yup. My panel buzzes quite loudly at times, although mainly during highly contrasted scenes. I'm trying to ignore it/keep the set in drive mode 2 otherwise I can sometimes hear the buzz over my listening volume. It drives me nuts when some people suggest their sets do not buzz at all. I reckon some people are just more tuned in to it as you suggest than others. If it doesn't bother some people then great. However, someone suggested they went right up to the screen and could hear nothing. I wonder if they actually switched the set on! These folk probably have the set left in mode2. All plasmas buzz to some extent , end of story. I doubt there is a special silent batch that lucky punters are now buying. I also doubt there was a special bad batch either.

My media box, however, is very,very quiet. I sit 10 feet or so away, and have never heard a peep from it. Perhaps it is the furniture it sits in that muffles any noise? I've certainly never heard a fan, and I won't go listening out for one either!

[martincwday]

Originally Posted by malcolmk

Until you (or someone) mentioned media box fan noise I wasn't aware there was a fan in it.

Seconded. I cannot hear the fan in the box. To describe it as whisper quiet would actually be misleading - it's as quiet as someone whispering in the next room. Behind a closed door. While you're wearing ear muffs.

You're far more likely to hear a DVD or Blu-Ray being accessed, or a Sky+ or HDD whirring into life. And none of these things are (or should be) louder than even the quietest sections of a quiet movie.

(And, lest someone accuse me of being deaf, I drive my family berserk by being able to hear a single sheet of paper rustling in the next room. Or a child crying in the next county.)

Cheers

Martin

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by JimBob1971

It drives me nuts when some people suggest their sets do not buzz at all.

Mine does seem to be very quiet though and the M is the "first" Pioneer i've owned that i can actually hear any buzzing at all.
Cheers.

[Black Adder]

Originally Posted by malcolmk

Until you (or someone) mentioned media box fan noise I wasn't aware there was a fan in it.

The buzzing is for the most part inaudible too. If everything is dead quiet I can tune my ear to it if the screen is showing a white on black menu or similar but never with a normal picture.

I thought it was only the obsessives on the M thread who were prepared to deprive themselves of the pleasure of owning and viewing a KRP because of some alleged fault that is not usually apparent.

Maybe there are some genuinely out of spec samples, in which case, the owners have my sympathy, but to refuse to buy a KRP because you fear you will get the same....

Better not buy an LG because of screen burn, a Panasonic because of purple snakes or a Samsung - <insert any reason here>.

I'm not suggesting there is a fault at all. I've clearly said that the buzzing can't be heard from a normal viewing distance.

The media box noise is not a fault either, it's part of the design and if ppl don't like even more fan noises (I have none in the room due to equipment being modded) then that is their choice if their room acoustics are sensitive esp late at night when they might have the TV off or on mute and don't want to hear yet another box spinning away.

As for depriving oneself pleasure by not owning a KRP, I'm not entirely sure I'm with you. You do know that the LX**90 TVs and the KRPs are totally identical in panel and electronics according to Pioneer UK? The only difference is how both KRP models offload jobs to be done in the media box or in the case of the KRP-M not at all. I've just bought a 5090 on a 28 day return option and could buy a KRP-A instead, but I choose not to for the reasons I mention.

The buzzing of 9G panels including the KRPs was what the original poster asked about.

[mitchellsx]

Hi, ive not connected the ferret clips to the power cables, does this matter? Will it effect the picture in anyway or is it it to do with radio signals?


Thanx