[gargoyle67]

Hun 4 1/2 grand and no power cable go figure , Is it the 3 prog kettle lead that PC use ?

[owtuv]

Originally Posted by AndyST

Received my 500M from TLC today, but it doesn't have a power cable included. Is this normal for the 'M' versions? I can't turn it on to test it

My KRP-600M, which was delivered by Pioneer Nordic here in Norway, came without a power cord too. I thought this was just a packaging fault, but obviously the professional monitors are shipped without a power cord as part of the standard accessories.

Best regards,
Ole Willy Tuv

[bumtious]

Originally Posted by AndyST

Received my 500M from TLC today, but it doesn't have a power cable included. Is this normal for the 'M' versions? I can't turn it on to test it

With the panel being so thin it doesn't feel all that stable on the stand, may have to wallmount it at some point...

Hi Guys

Sorry bout this, but its a pain in the ass I know, I've reported this as its about the 3rd we have had. Even had one A with no display port cable!

Should be in the bottom polystyrene under some cardboard that is taped into place.

Any IEC mains lead, type used on pc power supplies will do.

Will call you tomorrow.

[jason t]

did they have the ferrite cores though ??

[jamesaevans]

Originally Posted by jamesaevans

Hi Tony,

Have you been able to confirm that the PDK-WM02 bracket fits the KRP-500M?

I have already installed this bracket on a specially built stud wall in my livingroom in preparation for the LX5090, but if the bracket will fit then I might be tempted to go for the KRP-500M instead.

I know the new KRP-WM01 bracket will mount the screen closer to the wall, but I'm not really worried about this for my installation, and a bit of extra ventilation around the back of the screen can't hurt.

Thanks
James

As a few owners are starting to take delivery of the KRP-500M, I would be most grateful if someone could measure the horizontal and vertical distances between the mounting holes on the back of the sets.

I've had a look at the manual for both the screen and the super slim bracket, but neither document provides the distances between the mounting holes.

Thanks
James

[emthree]

How much is the 500 KRP-A goign for? Will appreciate the MRSP and a rough idea about discounted price.

TIA

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by jason t

did they have the ferrite cores though ??

Mine did.

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by emthree

how much is the 500 krp-a going for? :

£2,795.00?

[supersub40]

my krp 600a comes tomorrow do i need to keep the box?

i guess it will be HUGE!

[bumtious]

Originally Posted by jamesaevans

As a few owners are starting to take delivery of the KRP-500M, I would be most grateful if someone could measure the horizontal and vertical distances between the mounting holes on the back of the sets.

I've had a look at the manual for both the screen and the super slim bracket, but neither document provides the distances between the mounting holes.

Thanks
James

Left to right 490mm
Top to bottom 300mm

In from each side 360mm
From the top 215mm
From the bottom 200mm

B

[rewerb]

Originally Posted by gargoyle67

Hun 4 1/2 grand and no power cable go figure , Is it the 3 prog kettle lead that PC use ?

At that price I would expect a free kettle too.

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by supersub40

my krp 600a comes tomorrow do i need to keep the box?

i guess it will be HUGE!

Up to you of course mate i always keep the box,just chuck in the garage.

[bladedripper]

Hi do the ferrite cores improve the picture,i have mine connected near the tv end ,is this correct?.Sorry its just that ive never heard them mentioned before.(not sure what they do.)

[andrewfee]

Originally Posted by bumtious

Projectors are and have a far more natural picture because they are suposed to be viewed in the dark and with a light output that suits the human eye.

As I have already stated, the display should be set to a much lower brightness when viewing in darkened conditions, similar to what you get with a projector, which is in the region of 14–30fL (≈50–100cd/m²) though I prefer something in the middle to lower-end of that range.

Originally Posted by bumtious

Its a total myth that when viewing black the pixels or phospers should be off.

The very darkest part of a picture, that should be the point where the pixels are just lit, otherwise you loose shadow detail.

In that case, why are manufacturers trying as hard as they can to get to zero luminance? Why did Pioneer make such a big fuss about achieving it in January? Why do many HT enthusiasts still prefer CRT projectors over digital?

Black should be black, in my opinion. Shadow detail is information above black, and certainly you don't want that crushed, but that shouldn't require an elevated black level.

Originally Posted by bumtious

These nuts contrast ratios you see quoted are just bull. 20,000:1 (yea right)

Real life numbers

Human eye at night 1,200:1
Human eye in daylight 800:1
Film 120:1
Video camera 40:1

20,000:1 is bull? HDTVtest have measured the LX5090's black level to be 0.0031cd/m². With a peak white of ≈100cd/m², that works out at almost 33,000:1 on/off CR. (there are, of course, other methods of measuring contrast that would result in different numbers)

Those contrast ratios you have posted for the human eye are for simultaneous contrast. That is, you can see around 1200:1 (though many sources have different numbers) in a single scene without your eye adjusting. Your eye is constantly adjusting, however, and the human visual system has a dynamic range of over 1,000,000:1.

Even a display with a 30,000:1 contrast ratio still does not have enough dynamic range to accurately reproduce some scenes.

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by PETE Heg

Hi do the ferrite cores improve the picture,i have mine connected near the tv end ,is this correct?.Sorry its just that ive never heard them mentioned before.(not sure what they do.)

Hi PETE.
It's there to prevent noise TV end is fine.
All the best.

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by owtuv

Hi Kingfats,

Glad to hear that the IP address is working. Do you mean that you can't log in to the web page of your KRP's IP Control ? If so, are you using IE on Windows Vista ? What happened here when I typed in the password and hit enter on my PC with Vista was that the IE window closed down by itself. I had to fire up an old laptop with WinXP to get it working.

Good luck,
Ole

Hi owtuv.
I got the KRP web page up with my Vista PC as well it was the pop up blocker which was cancelling out the page,once turned off i could type in password and enter no problem.
Test email is not working though mind you,i'm getting there.....slowly.
Cheers.

[andyauk]

hi guys. my krp 500m is on its way ! whats this talk of ferrite cores ? are they something that comes in the box ? what do they do ? also is it worth buying a good mains cable like the clearer audio or is any fine ? just thinking spending all that cash want the best picture, will a cheap mains cable bring noise to the set or is it all bull###t
cheers, andy

[owtuv]

Originally Posted by kingfats

I got the KRP web page up with my Vista PC as well it was the pop up blocker which was cancelling out the page,once turned off i could type in password and enter no problem.

Ah.. thanks Kingfats, I didn't think of the popup blocker. It's working here also now of course.

Test email is not working though mind you,i'm getting there.....slowly.

Did you get the IP address to the mail server ?

All the best,
Ole

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by owtuv

Did you get the IP address to the mail server ?

All the best,
Ole

I did get the correct one yeah applied that and completed the rest of the form but email function is just not working.
I'll create another mail account i guess and try that out?

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by andyauk

hi guys. my krp 500m is on its way ! whats this talk of ferrite cores ? are they something that comes in the box ? what do they do ? :

I wouldn't worry too much about it mate here's the heads up on p.22 of the manual.
Cheers.

[owtuv]

Originally Posted by kingfats

I did get the correct one yeah applied that and completed the rest of the form but email function is just not working.
I'll create another mail account i guess and try that out?

You set it up as follows:

Sender address: Your e-mail address
Mail server: IP address to your provider's mail server
Authentication: On
ID: The username you're using when connecting to the mail server
Password: The password you're using when connecting to the mail server
Receiver address (1): Your e-mail address

You need to push the "Set" button to save the changes. Then push "TEST MAIL" and check your inbox.

Regards,
Ole

[kingfats]

Cheers owtuv nice and clear info that,i'll have to recheck my settings.
Ta.

[andyauk]

Originally Posted by kingfats

It must just be for the M model pretty cool though.
If your sending different resolutions to one Input (480i,720p whatever) then each device can have it's own picture settings....the TV remembers.

do you have to do anything on the tv for it to remember the different settings or does it just remember them as it recieves them ? i have sky hd, blue ray and hd dvd going into a pioneer amp and connected to the screen with one hdmi. as i switch sources do i need to adjust the settings on the screen ?

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by andyauk

do you have to do anything on the tv for it to remember the different settings or does it just remember them as it recieves them ? i have sky hd, blue ray and hd dvd going into a pioneer amp and connected to the screen with one hdmi. as i switch sources do i need to adjust the settings on the screen ?

Hi mate.
The M will remember settings on a resolution/refresh rate basis. So it will store unique settings for say 1080p24, 1080i/50, 1080p50, 1080p60, 576p@50, etc. (up to a max of eight); but if you are say sending 1080p50 from two sources into the same input, there will only be one setting for 1080p/50. (using Pure mode picture preset)
The second HDMI is independant for settings.
What's Sky going into the screen as.....1080i?
All the best.

[bengunn]

Originally Posted by Costas

Auto Tuning DOES pick BBC HD. You should not have to set it up manually!

I am not saying that it does not pick it up, just that I could not find it amongst 1075 scanned channels!

It is MUCH easier to tune it manually, unless you want to search through pots of, mostly encrypted, channels.

[Costas]

Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi AndyST.
Funny you should say that mate as mine didn't have one in the box either luckily i had a spare from previous sale so used that.
All the best.

Guys...!! If you still have still have the original box and packing of the screen ...CHECK CAREFULLY again! I thought exactly the same that there was no power cable but it is there! It is not in the carton box with all other accessories. Interstingly enough, Pioneer has decided to "hide" it and tape it in the white protective material in one of the bottom corners in the box !!!

[Costas]

Originally Posted by bumtious

Hi Guys

Sorry bout this, but its a pain in the ass I know, I've reported this as its about the 3rd we have had. Even had one A with no display port cable!

Should be in the bottom polystyrene under some cardboard that is taped into place.

Any IEC mains lead, type used on pc power supplies will do.

Will call you tomorrow.

As I have just said... it is most likely there... but it is not obvious at all. My friend missed it and thought they did not include... and I nearly did the same. As I just said... worth checking again for everyone who thinks it is missing... Hopefully they do not throw away the packing / box.

[bengunn]

Originally Posted by andyauk

hi guys. my krp 500m is on its way ! whats this talk of ferrite cores ? are they something that comes in the box ? what do they do ? also is it worth buying a good mains cable like the clearer audio or is any fine ? just thinking spending all that cash want the best picture, will a cheap mains cable bring noise to the set or is it all bull###t
cheers, andy

The ferrite cores fit on the mains leads, close to the screen/media box; they are to help prevent the TV picking up noise from the mains and/or sending noise onto the mains. I suspect that they are to make it pass the CE EMC directives.

Do fit the ferrite cores but don't waste your money on 'upmarket' mains leads, they will not make any difference whatsoever to anything (except your wallet).

[kingfats]

Originally Posted by Costas

Guys...!! If you still have still have the original box and packing of the screen ...CHECK CAREFULLY again! I thought exactly the same that there was no power cable but it is there! It is not in the carton box with all other accessories. Interstingly enough, Pioneer has decided to "hide" it and tape it in the white protective material in one of the bottom corners in the box !!!

Your right just found it hidden away at the bottom of the box.
Sly devils.

[andyauk]

Originally Posted by bengunn

The ferrite cores fit on the mains leads, close to the screen/media box; they are to help prevent the TV picking up noise from the mains and/or sending noise onto the mains. I suspect that they are to make it pass the CE EMC directives.

Do fit the ferrite cores but don't waste your money on 'upmarket' mains leads, they will not make any difference whatsoever to anything (except your wallet).

hi richard
thanks for that just saved me £35