Pioneer 9G Owners Thread

bumtious · 23-05-2008, 6:52 PM

Like the 8G thread this will be for 9G owners.

Keep checking back here this is where settings will be posted and when allowed to will post all sorts of info regarding the sets.

This first post will continue to grow with info.

There is a microsite now up on Pioneers web site but I guess thay are still working on it as it is a bit flakeyand the numties have put the H models up, I stress these are NOT available here in the UK.

I will add a link in my sig to come back to here like with 8G

I have already spoke with the ISF guys in Belgium and the feeling is that with the 5090/6090 the existing software will work, but for the KRPs work is likely to be needed but there is 3-4 months for that to be done. But no tests have been done, as soon as I get my mits on one I will check this out.

****SETTINGS WILL APPEAR BE HERE SHORTLY****

The 3 models With feature list

LX 5090/6090

KRP 500/600 Media Box

KRP 500/600 Monitor

LX6090 Undermount speaker

LX5090 Rear shot

LX6090 Rear shot

Bumtious

***PLEASE NOTE THE SPECS MAY CHANGE PRIOR TO LAUNCH***

Edit Full press details, images, PDFs and more now posted here: 'Official' Pioneer GB press launch for 9th Generation Kuro models and more...

Video coverage is now available.
Part One: 9G screens and features. Here
Part Two: 10G and the deal with Panasonic, what is the future for Kuro. Here
Part Three: Blu-Ray players and Amplifiers for 2008. Coming soon
Part Four: Tim Vine-Lott from AIR studios on the relationship with Pioneer. Coming soon

mark800 · 23-05-2008, 7:19 PM

Pics of the LX5090

Chicken Little (Blu-ray)

The Wild (Blu-ray)

Cars (Blu-ray)

Die Hard 4.0 (Blu-ray)

Casino Royale (Bluray)

Dr Who (in SD) from BBC

Black level comparisons 8G versus 9G versus PZ85

Here are photos of the LX5090 screen of Chicken Little on Blu-ray.

chelsea.tone · 23-05-2008, 7:27 PM

Hi guys, what would be the advantages of the KRP's vs 5090/6090's ??

Tony

kingfats · 23-05-2008, 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mark800

Photos of the new 9G to appear here.

Hi mark800.

Look forward to that mate

you took some nice pics of your 8G.

All the best.

kingfats · 23-05-2008, 7:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chelsea.tone

Hi guys, what would be the advantages of the KRP's vs 5090/6090's ??

Tony

Hi mate.

Some details here,slimmer panel and seperate media box are some of the differences.

enator · 23-05-2008, 7:44 PM

And some jokes about 9G here

=adrian= · 23-05-2008, 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark800

Photos of the new 9G to appear here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi mark800.

Look forward to that mate

you took some nice pics of your 8G.

All the best.

Me too! (even though I'm not thinking about upgrading my 8G to 9G so far)

kingfats · 23-05-2008, 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by =adrian=

Me too! (even though I'm not thinking about upgrading my 8G to 9G so far)

Nor am i

so far.............

nbat58 · 23-05-2008, 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi mark800.

Look forward to that mate

you took some nice pics of your 8G.

All the best.

I second that.

MrHyde1969 · 23-05-2008, 8:02 PM

I have already spoke with the ISF guys in Belgium and the feeling is that with the 5090/6090 the existing software will work, but for the KRPs work is likely to be needed but there is 3-4 months for that to be done. But no tests have been done, as soon as I get my mits on one I will check this out.

Bumtious[/QUOTE]

Does this mean that the signal is processed differently on the KRP's than onthe 5090/6090

bumtious · 23-05-2008, 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrHyde1969

I have already spoke with the ISF guys in Belgium and the feeling is that with the 5090/6090 the existing software will work, but for the KRPs work is likely to be needed but there is 3-4 months for that to be done. But no tests have been done, as soon as I get my mits on one I will check this out.

Bumtious

Does this mean that the signal is processed differently on the KRP's than onthe 5090/6090

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No it does not, the menu is totally different and there will be some pretty nifty stuff, like visual readings of what the picture is doing, and the command lines may be different, dont know yet, but sencore have got till October to get it right so there is plenty of time.

chelsea.tone · 23-05-2008, 8:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi mate.

Some details here,slimmer panel and seperate media box are some of the differences.

Cheers KF

kingfats · 23-05-2008, 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumtious

No it does not, the menu is totally different and there will be some pretty nifty stuff, like visual readings of what the picture is doing, .

Hi bumtious.

Would this be available to an ISF engineer only,or to the user as well? sounds interesting!
All the best.

Brogan · 23-05-2008, 9:46 PM

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread as the KRP-600A may well be my next upgrade.

Click here for Pioneer 9G details, prices & availabilty

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bumtious · 23-05-2008, 9:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi bumtious.

Would this be available to an ISF engineer only,or to the user as well? sounds interesting!
All the best.

Think its user accessable, just a visual graph.

Product info now in first post.

kingfats · 24-05-2008, 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumtious

Think its user accessable, just a visual graph.

Product info now in first post.

Thanks mate

look forward to more info from your goodself.

MacGyver4321 · 24-05-2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrHyde1969

I have already spoke with the ISF guys in Belgium and the feeling is that with the 5090/6090 the existing software will work, but for the KRPs work is likely to be needed but there is 3-4 months for that to be done. But no tests have been done, as soon as I get my mits on one I will check this out.

Hi mate, do you know a reliable ISF certified calibrator in Belgium ?
I would like to let my 608 calibrated, so if you could send me coordinates, even via PM, I would help me a lot.

Regards

**Phil Hinton** · 24-05-2008, 1:03 PM

Stills from the video footage now added to the news story. Link can be found in the first post of this thread.

WREXY · 24-05-2008, 11:18 PM

I'm considering buying one of the 5090s, but dont know if I should wait for the KRP 500.

The 5090/6090 has an SD digital tuner. Does this mean that if a program on a digital freeview channel that is broadcast in HD will not be produced as a HD signal on the TV but instead will be produced as an SD digital signal?

kingfats · 24-05-2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WREXY

The 5090/6090 has an SD digital tuner. Does this mean that if a program on a digital freeview channel that is broadcast in HD will not be produced as a HD signal on the TV but instead will be produced as an SD digital signal?

Hi WREXY.

Yes,it will be in SD digital.

All the best.

WREXY · 24-05-2008, 11:29 PM

Thanks Kingfats!

I'll be waiting for the KRP 500 then!

kingfats · 25-05-2008, 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WREXY

Thanks Kingfats!

I'll be waiting for the KRP 500 then!

Hi WREXY.

There's a forum video podcast coming soon with more details on the KRP models

plus the others of course.

All the best.

arad85 · 25-05-2008, 7:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WREXY

I'm considering buying one of the 5090s, but dont know if I should wait for the KRP 500.

The 5090/6090 has an SD digital tuner. Does this mean that if a program on a digital freeview channel that is broadcast in HD will not be produced as a HD signal on the TV but instead will be produced as an SD digital signal?

Just because it says SD/HD terrestrial doesn't mean it wil definitely be compatible with HD Freeview. See: http://www.avforums.com/forums/home-cinema-tech-news/765544-official-pioneer-gb-press-launch-9th-generation-kuro-models-more-post7079289.html and in particular...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Hinton

It should also be noted that although the products list SD/HD receivers these may not conform to the freesat or freeview HD services in the UK.

Why? Well the full HD Freeview specs haven't been completely decided yet, so you can't be compatible with something you don't know 100%...

brett3vans · 25-05-2008, 9:35 AM

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Originally Posted by arad85

Why? Well the full HD Freeview specs haven't been completely decided yet, so you can't be compatible with something you don't know 100%...

Freesat spec obviously have, but Ive still read a post stating that the KRP's will still not be fully compatible with all the features of Freesat - in particular the red button services and seeing as this is how ITV HD is going to be accessed, if this is true, it seems to be a bit pointless waiting for the KRP's?

kingfats · 25-05-2008, 9:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett3vans

Freesat spec obviously have, but Ive still read a post stating that the KRP's will still not be fully compatible with all the features of Freesat - in particular the red button services and seeing as this is how ITV HD is going to be accessed, if this is true, it seems to be a bit pointless waiting for the KRP's?

Hi brett3vans.

It is confusing

hopefully we will all get clearer details soon though in the interview.

Cheers.

arad85 · 25-05-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett3vans

Freesat spec obviously have, but Ive still read a post stating that the KRP's will still not be fully compatible with all the features of Freesat - in particular the red button services and seeing as this is how ITV HD is going to be accessed, if this is true, it seems to be a bit pointless waiting for the KRP's?

Freesat is a "hack" to piggyback a free service off Skys transponders. In terms of DVB specs, it places all the usual network tables at high PIDs. Additionally, the EPG data is compressed. All this means porting a standard DVB stack to support freesat is a non-trivial task. Having said that, the raw mechanism for delivering Freesat is standard DVB-S2 so it would be relatively easy to get these services seen. What isn't easy is to get the complete user experience (installation, EPG, reminders etc...) sorted.

Freeview HD will also need to be an amalgamation of whatever is there presently and HD services. The UK has a particular flavour of DVB that means there are specifics which need to be taken into account in the software. I'd expect that for Freeview HD, something similar will be needed. Given that I wouldn't really expect any significant Freeview HD services to be running until close to finalised switchover, I think any implementation now is likely to be buggy and therefore would require support through to 2012 when the service would become live. If it were me, I wouldn't be advertising Freeview HD connectivity due to the support activity, but I would be looking at Freesat HD - probably via an OAD - some time at the end of the year. But I'm not Pioneer...

bumtious · 25-05-2008, 10:47 AM

arad has goy it right, Free sat and HD freeview is as he says it, freesat will be able to picked up just no EPG or red button function. HD Freeview the broadcast standard has not been decided yet so the hd tuner that will work in Main Europe may not wrok here.

I'm off on holiday for a week now see you Next Sunday

Bumtious.