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Old 19-05-2007, 12:49 PM   #1
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Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

Now alot of us got the PX70 and I am sure some of us have got over 200 hours now.

I am wondering what the latest picture settings you are all using...

best bet us to measure the white line with a ruler and post up the measurements :o)

Let keep this thread Tidy just with settings only.

Will Post mine once arrived back home.

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Old 19-05-2007, 1:42 PM   #2
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

Just to kick this one off

All adjustments from default:

Freeview and everyday viewing:

Viewing Mode: Normal
Contrast: 25 clicks left
Brightness: 5 clicks left
Colour: 5 clicks left
Sharpness: Default
Colour Balance: Normal
Colour Management: Off
P-NR: Off

DVDs and HD/Blu-Ray Movies

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: Default
Brightness: 2 clicks left
Colour: Default
Sharpness: Default
Colour Balance: Normal
Colour Management: Off
P-NR: Off

I personally find that Colour Balance when set to Warm gives a slightly yellow/sepia cast which can enhance some movies but isn't suitable for everyday viewing in my opinion

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Old 19-05-2007, 2:25 PM   #3
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

bob that is very low contrast!!!?? when you say 25 clicks left, is that from the middle or far right!?

My settings for freeview are:

Viewing Mode: Normal
Contrast: Middle
Brightness: 2 clicks left
Colour: Middle
Sharpness: Middle
Colour Balance: Normal
Colour Management: On (for sports off for everything else)
P-NR: Off

My settings for Gaming are:

Viewing Mode: Normal
Contrast: Middle
Brightness: middle
Colour: 2 clicks right
Sharpness: Middle
Colour Balance: Normal
Colour Management: off
P-NR: Off

DVDs and HD/Blu-Ray Movies

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: Middle
Brightness: 2 clicks left
Colour: Default
Sharpness: Default
Colour Balance: Warm for most films, some normal
Colour Management: Off
P-NR: Off
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Old 19-05-2007, 2:28 PM   #4
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

dude, you read my tiny mind, ive just logged on to start this very thread! sweet....
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Old 19-05-2007, 2:34 PM   #5
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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bob that is very low contrast!!!?? when you say 25 clicks left, is that from the middle or far right!?
From the default which is far right

If you have previously adjusted settings press "Reset to Default" before applying settings

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Old 19-05-2007, 3:35 PM   #6
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

aaahhh that makes more sense
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Old 19-05-2007, 6:23 PM   #7
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

cal,d mine with spyder try these as approx settings i have expensive ref arcam dvd so get excellent results from ref patterns

cinema ,warm is correct colour temp you must have these settings for accurate colours.
if left of bar = 0 right= 100
contrast=70
brightness=48
colour=53
colour mangement=off
sharpness=personal taste

try some dark scenes to look at shadow detail you will see more info now ,i set all my sets using set up disks and they where all miles out with spyder it gives you pitures and explains what you should see before and after cal

hope this helps cheers red
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Old 20-05-2007, 7:38 AM   #8
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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cal,d mine with spyder try these as approx settings i have expensive ref arcam dvd so get excellent results from ref patterns

cinema ,warm is correct colour temp you must have these settings for accurate colours.
if left of bar = 0 right= 100
contrast=70
brightness=48
colour=53
colour mangement=off
sharpness=personal taste

try some dark scenes to look at shadow detail you will see more info now ,i set all my sets using set up disks and they where all miles out with spyder it gives you pitures and explains what you should see before and after cal

hope this helps cheers red

Are these setting by clicks or by percentage?

I have notice quite a few settings are simular to each other on here...

Mines is the same as giggy cinema setting but i use it for every input.
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Old 20-05-2007, 10:57 AM   #9
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

i agree that cinema and warm gives excellent colour etc on dvd and HD but looks completely off on freeview, and softens the picture. If you switch to normal, and normal colour temp for freeview - pic is FAR sharper, adn colours much more realistic. Whites look almost yellow when you use cinema and warm on freeview wheras use normal and you get a bliding white, and on gaming as well...........
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Old 20-05-2007, 4:56 PM   #10
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

yes this is percent as panasonic not quite as helpful and accurate on there menu systems as other manufactures,i use a piece of a4 and mark ends of bar then mark half way
as 50 and then divide these to give 25 and 75 and then again so i have got a good selection of values .
gigsy i think the limitations of freeview are why you prefer alternative settings
and if it looks better i agree i only use dvd /skyhd both on cinema warm with excellent results.
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Old 20-05-2007, 6:19 PM   #11
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

yeah def looks FAR better on normal for freeview - just watching the chelsea flower show BBC1 - looks absolutely stunning, all the colours are spectacular, from 8ft it is easily best programme have seen yet on Freeview, the detail is pretty astounding actually...................its quite hypnotising, you wouldnt catch me watching flowers on my old CRT lol
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Old 20-05-2007, 7:33 PM   #12
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

Hi Guys,

Is it true you have to manually adjust your settings for each input source?
it doesnt have memories for each one?
If so, how much of an inconvienience is this?

Thanks.
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Old 21-05-2007, 1:07 PM   #13
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

hue,
you can set a different piture mode for a diffrent input ie sky could use
normal and dvd cinema , you can use more than one mode to more then one
input the set will remember what you have set it is limited but works ok unless
you have alot of inputs that need setting differently.
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Old 21-05-2007, 1:36 PM   #14
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

i have the 37inch version but thought i'd join the party.


viewing mode normal

contrast = 60% (higher during daytime with light coming into the room)
brightness= 50%
colour = 45% for TV/Film, sometimes whack it up to 70% for some games.
sharpness = 33% - any higher and whites jump out too much and glare.

colour balance = normal
i've tried warm but it looks too yellow for my liking, whites become pale yellow and mutes alot of the other colours especially blues.
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Old 22-05-2007, 9:36 AM   #15
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

Yes, yes lets keep it tidy, but!!! maybe it would be better to work with the same "reference". If you count well then you kniow there are 63 clicks between the left and the right side of the bar, so maybe it's better to give an update 'click'wise????

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Old 22-05-2007, 10:17 AM   #16
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

This is from HDTVTest Review

Panasonic TH42PX70 Settings
The following settings are calibrated for HD broadcast and HD DVD performance via HDMI input in a dark viewing environment. There are several reasons why they won’t work for you, as they can all affect `final’ picture quality.

Personal preference
Ambient light
Source material
Player
Intramodel variation
Picture Menu

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: No change
Brightness: 2 clicks left
Colour: No change
Sharpness: No Change
Colour Balance: Warm
Colour Management: Off
P-NR: Off

That was easy, wasn't it? I tolerated a small degree of edge enhancement to counter the softness of the internal scaling. For football in SD broadcast or whatever else you fancy, you can turn on Colour Management for deeper greens. Happy viewing guys.
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Old 23-05-2007, 9:10 PM   #18
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

Let put this back to live... Anymore PX70/700 users like to post their settings as I am sure this would come in use for a alot of new users.
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Old 24-05-2007, 6:00 AM   #19
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

In Germany the PX70 is called PV71F, but technically it should be the same set. I found the following settings looking best with the Denon 3910 via HDMI (using DVE calibration DVD):

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: 26 clicks from the left (under daylight conditions up to 32)
Brightness: 29
Colour: 33
Sharpness: all the way down to zero (very natural and detailed picture without ringing artifacts)
Colour Balance: Warm
Colour Management: Off
P-NR: Off
Power Save: Off
Refreshrate: 100 Hz (50 Hz has better movement reproduvtion, but flickers like hell; not sure if this option is available in UK sets)

Hope I could help.

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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cal,d mine with spyder try these as approx settings i have expensive ref arcam dvd so get excellent results from ref patterns

cinema ,warm is correct colour temp you must have these settings for accurate colours.
if left of bar = 0 right= 100
contrast=70
brightness=48
colour=53
colour mangement=off
sharpness=personal taste

try some dark scenes to look at shadow detail you will see more info now ,i set all my sets using set up disks and they where all miles out with spyder it gives you pitures and explains what you should see before and after cal

hope this helps cheers red
Ive been running these settings now for a few days and really like them, far better than my own settings i posted on this thread. Theres far better dark area detail now and more accurate colours IMO.

Going back to normal color temp now looks far too cool and green.

Regardless of values, normal picture mode seems to give a more contrasty picture with lower brightness levels and higher sharpness levels. It looks almost like an LCD to my eyes, although this mode gives a sharp/clear picture the dark area detail is poor and its hard to get the colours looking accurate.

Cinema mode appears to run less contrast, less sharpness and more brightness than normal mode at the same values, and accurate colours are more achiveable. I prefer this mode now with red severn's settings for dvd. blu-ray, general TV as it gives a realistic image IMO. However when viewing in the dark at night i often have to turn down the contrast to around 50% as it can be too bright.

For games though I prefer Normal mode still, as it gives a cleaner, sharper picture, however for games with lots of dark areas like Gears of War, Cinema comes into its own thanks to the better dark area detail. One thing that does annoy me sometimes is that i notice the black level can fluctuate depending on the scene, i notice this on GT HD on PS3 when I enter the tunnel, if i park the car at first it appears dark then after a few seconds i can see the the black level automatically begin to light up.

Also when gaming i feel less need to use warm colour temp. Studio and movie cameras maybe calib'd at D65 6500k as there capturing real life, but I doubt video game colour pallettes are designed with this standard in mind.

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Still running my 42PX70 in, and have got the settings well under 25%, to avoid any burn in. Am i being paranoid, because the picture at the moment looks really washed out. Do you think i could afford to turn the settings up a bit.
Do the different modes i.e. Cinema / Normal / Dynamic, differ, if you were to set everything to say 50% values, would each mode look the same?
If not, what are the differences, and how would it be best to apply them to different types of viewing, Sports, Movies, Soaps ( not that i watch any of the later ) etc.?

One more question. In the set up options, there is an option labled side pannel.
The manual doesnt explain what this is used for, all it says is to have it set to maximum to avoid retention. i thought minimum would be best used for this.

TIA guys, from a Pany and Plasma noob.

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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Still running my 42PX70 in, and have got the settings well under 25%, to avoid any burn in. Am i being paranoid, ..
Yes

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because the picture at the moment looks really washed out. Do you think i could afford to turn the settings up a bit...
Yes

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Do the different modes i.e. Cinema / Normal / Dynamic, differ, if you were to set everything to say 50% values, would each mode look the same? ...
No

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If not, what are the differences, and how would it be best to apply them to different types of viewing, Sports, Movies, Soaps ( not that i watch any of the later ) etc.?...
The general concensus is that Cinema mode is better for HD/DVDs etc {unsurprisingly ) and Normal is better for SD/Freeview

However as it is you watching your set you decide which YOU prefer

A sensibly set up Panny from day one won't cause you any problems and the settings above all seem fairly safe, just adjust to your own preference, just avoid Dynamic

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One more question. In the set up options, there is an option labled side pannel.
The manual doesnt explain what this is used for, all it says is to have it set to maximum to avoid retention. i thought minimum would be best used for this.?...
I've never altered this setting myself and I think you can safely trust Panasonic on this

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TIA guys, from a Pany and Plasma noob.
Carl..
You're welcome

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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Ive been running these settings now for a few days and really like them, far better than my own settings i posted on this thread. Theres far better dark area detail now and more accurate colours IMO.

Going back to normal color temp now looks far too cool and green.

Regardless of values, normal picture mode seems to give a more contrasty picture with lower brightness levels and higher sharpness levels. It looks almost like an LCD to my eyes, although this mode gives a sharp/clear picture the dark area detail is poor and its hard to get the colours looking accurate.

Cinema mode appears to run less contrast, less sharpness and more brightness than normal mode at the same values, and accurate colours are more achiveable. I prefer this mode now with red severn's settings for dvd. blu-ray, general TV as it gives a realistic image IMO. However when viewing in the dark at night i often have to turn down the contrast to around 50% as it can be too bright.

For games though I prefer Normal mode still, as it gives a cleaner, sharper picture, however for games with lots of dark areas like Gears of War, Cinema comes into its own thanks to the better dark area detail. One thing that does annoy me sometimes is that i notice the black level can fluctuate depending on the scene, i notice this on GT HD on PS3 when I enter the tunnel, if i park the car at first it appears dark then after a few seconds i can see the the black level automatically begin to light up.

Also when gaming i feel less need to use warm colour temp. Studio and movie cameras maybe calib'd at D65 6500k as there capturing real life, but I doubt video game colour pallettes are designed with this standard in mind.
glad to help, and you are spot on with your comments i too alter contrast depending on light levels but this will have a effect on colours so i might post day time night time settings later with an accurate sharpness setting,the advantage spyder/ isf has it has a sensor on the screen to anilize
rather than your eye which is almost impossible to set up accuratly i suppose
its how bothered you are about getting it right ,they do take some getting adjusted to (example like when set up discs correctly advise to turn down sharpness the piture looks softer but better).

as regards gaming i agree again if any one has a reasonable pc monitor it should have a mode for 6500k just try altering it and see how bad it looks for computer work/games but it should look exactly like the cinema /warm settings i gave which is correct for tv ,this is a good check because pc monitors where generally regarded as been more accurate as they may needed in example photography.
regards red

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

Just tried my PC monitor at 6500k setting, i see what you mean. It has another preset at 9300k setting which is what i think my user settings are closer too.
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Thanks Bob.

But are you saying if for example i start using say "Red Severns" settings as posted above, i should be be ok using these?

I only think i have about 40 hours clocked on it at the moment.

Thanks again.

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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Thanks Bob.

But are you saying if for example i start using say "Red Severns" settings as posted above, i should be be ok using these?

I only think i have about 40 hours clocked on it at the moment.

Thanks again.

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They will be absolutely fine, obviously avoid leaving static images on your screen for any length of time during the first few weeks.

The current crop of Pannys are fairly resilient nowdays.

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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hue,
you can set a different piture mode for a diffrent input ie sky could use
normal and dvd cinema , you can use more than one mode to more then one
input the set will remember what you have set it is limited but works ok unless
you have alot of inputs that need setting differently.
cheers red.
mine just stays the same for each input

how do you save to each input or am i just being stupid?

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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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cal,d mine with spyder try these as approx settings i have expensive ref arcam dvd so get excellent results from ref patterns

cinema ,warm is correct colour temp you must have these settings for accurate colours.
if left of bar = 0 right= 100
contrast=70
brightness=48
colour=53
colour mangement=off
sharpness=personal taste

try some dark scenes to look at shadow detail you will see more info now ,i set all my sets using set up disks and they where all miles out with spyder it gives you pitures and explains what you should see before and after cal

hope this helps cheers red
red are these the settings for just dvd?

i need dvd, sky hd, normal sky and xbox 360 settings if possible
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

louisg,
those settings are fine for dvd/ skyhd.
tv must be done by eye
have not done xbox 360 but the settings will be completly different
cheers red

ps i do have some daytime settings for dvd/skytv if anyones interested ie sunny conditions
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Re: Panasonic PX70 Picture Settings 42" Only

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louisg,

ps i do have some daytime settings for dvd/skytv if anyones interested ie sunny conditions
Yes please, can you post them up?

Cheers
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