Panasonic 2012 Vertical Band issues (VBI/MVBI)

jimmya200 · 18-06-2012, 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Al_G

Interesting as the top quarter of mine is pretty invisible and the bottom quarter is most obvious.

Also from the pictures I've seen I don't think mine is as far right as everyone else's...

I've taken some pictures of mine using both an iPhone 4 and Galaxy SII...

Galaxy pics:

iPhone pics:

Yes yours is about twice as far over to the left as mine.

Al_G · 18-06-2012, 9:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmya200

Yes yours is about twice as far over to the left as mine.

Does yours look more "obvious" in pictures than mine?

jimmya200 · 18-06-2012, 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Al_G

Does yours look more "obvious" in pictures than mine?

I would say its the same. Even more obvious to the naked eye.

Al_G · 18-06-2012, 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmya200

I would say its the same. Even more obvious to the naked eye.

Have you been in touch with Panasonic? If so what was their response?

amh181276 · 19-06-2012, 9:52 AM

I do feel for all that this is an annoyance, but it does seem to be the first thing people are now doing is to go looking for this fault on their sets.

I have had 2 x ST50's I only swapped the first one due to excessive buzzing, but both of my screens had the band on the right handside, but for me I hardly notice it is there. I am sure the first screen also lessesned with time (only 3 weeks).

I think the first set may have had a wider single band. It definately differs with settings to my eye. I also think the second set where the band is less noticeable to almost invisible may actually be slighly more reflective so maybe something to consider as a factor to the issue??

Has this been seen at all on the UT?

pioneer 1985 · 19-06-2012, 10:14 AM

hey everyone,

check out my post in the st50 thread about this issue saves double posting.
Panasonic ST50 Owners Thread

**Scooby2000** · 19-06-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BUTLERBOY

My GT50 goes back Wed due to DSE .
Now lost faith in Panasonic as i had DSE with my ST30 which also went back
Now looking at getting a Samsung PSD8000 or PSE6500.
I did contemplate the LGPM960 but there are no reviews anywhere.

It is a shame as the DSE ruins a superb picture.

Samsung makes a good alternative.

jimmya200 · 19-06-2012, 10:19 AM

As someone has already posted that Panasonic are investing this, I can confirm that is the case.
Fingers crossed for a resolution and not a "within spec" type approach.

pioneer 1985 · 19-06-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooby2000

Samsung makes a good alternative.

yes, if you like flashing bright scenes

Zaichik · 19-06-2012, 12:17 PM

No sign of this on my GT50, and I even forced myself to watch some football to see if I could see it!

Inked · 19-06-2012, 12:45 PM

I have two different types, I have the thick bands running from top to bottom of the screen which can be seen when watching things like football (looks like I have three of these, one on the left of the panel and two on the right - these do not look like DSE, more like higher light output from behind the places they occur - obviously this is not the case as plasma doesn't use backlight), but I also have thin vertical stripes on the far left of the panel (three or four) which are much more like DSE as they look like they are in front of the image.

theprofessor · 19-06-2012, 1:42 PM

I've sent one 42GT50 back for this very issue. My replacement is miles better - BUT there is one (mild) DSE vBand and with all the Euro footy at the mo, it's becoming annoying. It's also more bizzar as you only see it when panning from left to right, can't see it the other way! Bonkers. I was hoping it would go with age or update, but from what's been said here about the filter application - I guess there's no chance! What to do next?.......

Adlermann · 19-06-2012, 1:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theprofessor

I've sent one 42GT50 back for this very issue. My replacement is miles better - BUT there is one (mild) DSE vBand and with all the Euro footy at the mo, it's becoming annoying. It's also more bizzar as you only see it when panning from left to right, can't see it the other way! Bonkers. I was hoping it would go with age or update, but from what's been said here about the filter application - I guess there's no chance! What to do next?.......

Learn to live with it or get a refund an go for another brand with it's own issues..

jimmya200 · 19-06-2012, 1:47 PM

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Originally Posted by theprofessor

I've sent one 42GT50 back for this very issue. My replacement is miles better - BUT there is one (mild) DSE vBand and with all the Euro footy at the mo, it's becoming annoying. It's also more bizzar as you only see it when panning from left to right, can't see it the other way! Bonkers. I was hoping it would go with age or update, but from what's been said here about the filter application - I guess there's no chance! What to do next?.......

Please report it to Panasonic.

jimmya200 · 19-06-2012, 1:56 PM

If out of every 100 sets Panasonic sell and only 2 people report the problem, they will NOT do anything about it. However if 70 people report it they WILL.
Anyone with this issue please report it. Not just to your retailer but directly to Panasonic.

Adlermann · 19-06-2012, 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmya200

If out of every 100 sets Panasonic sell and only 2 people report the problem, they will NOT do anything about it. However if 70 people report it they WILL.
Anyone with this issue please report it. Not just to your retailer but directly to Panasonic.

Do you really think they will ever call back tens of thousands of tv's? Not going to happen.

jimmya200 · 19-06-2012, 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adlermann

Do you really think they will ever call back tens of thousands of tv's? Not going to happen.

I do know that it will not happen if no one reports it.

Inked · 19-06-2012, 3:14 PM

Any decent retailer will already be reporting it to Panasonic UK

fluxo · 19-06-2012, 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theprofessor

I've sent one 42GT50 back for this very issue. My replacement is miles better - BUT there is one (mild) DSE vBand and with all the Euro footy at the mo, it's becoming annoying. It's also more bizzar as you only see it when panning from left to right, can't see it the other way! Bonkers. I was hoping it would go with age or update, but from what's been said here about the filter application - I guess there's no chance!

There is no evidence whatsoever that it is the filter that is to blame.

There are lots of other things that can go wrong with a plasma display.
E.g., unstable addressing. You can read descriptions of many problems
in Panasonic's patent applications.

theprofessor · 19-06-2012, 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmya200

Please report it to Panasonic.

Be asssured Panny know!
I just need to make the decision to either keep returning until I get a perfect set (if that exists - probably not) or to accept what it's like. Which is also accepting that spending over a grand for something that's not 100% is OK, pants down, slap me botty - thanks Mr Panny. Both options are not ideal

BUT otherwise, the PQ is great

jimmya200 · 19-06-2012, 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by theprofessor

Be asssured Panny know!
I just need to make the decision to either keep returning until I get a perfect set (if that exists - probably not) or to accept what it's like. Which is also accepting that spending over a grand for something that's not 100% is OK, pants down, slap me botty - thanks Mr Panny. Both options are not ideal

BUT otherwise, the PQ is great

You contacted them and got a reply then?

**Scooby2000** · 19-06-2012, 5:04 PM

Any retailer who refunds a set would surely be demanding a refund themselves? so Panasonic will be aware. Im keeping an eye on this one, sounding like the blobs all over again, I hope its not as wide spread.

leedebs · 19-06-2012, 6:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985

yes, if you like flashing bright scenes

what do you mean?

panman40 · 19-06-2012, 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985

yes, if you like flashing bright scenes

I will take the Bright Scene Pops over a non Uniform screen anytime

pioneer 1985 · 19-06-2012, 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by panman40

I will take the Bright Scene Pops over a non Uniform screen anytime

meowww

gowerboy · 19-06-2012, 8:38 PM

What if in 6 months you were to contact retailer\Panasonic saying that your tv had developed a fault, i.e. faint vertical line, would this be covered under the warranty?

leedebs · 19-06-2012, 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985

meowww

No bright scene pops that I am aware of (D8000), & the fbr has been fixed by F/W, the only problem with these sets is the less than stellar blacks and tbh at least that is not a fault per se (at least the Samsungs do not have a 50hz bug, no dfc, no posterisation

)

panman40 · 19-06-2012, 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985

meowww

Hey I have had more tv's than you have had sachets of Whiskas so don't be flippant ;-) lol !

pioneer 1985 · 19-06-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by panman40

Hey I have had more tv's than you have had sachets of Whiskas so don't be flippant ;-) lol !

very true

jimmya200 · 20-06-2012, 3:42 PM

Band also visible on royal ascot, again grass background.

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19-06-2012, 9:52 AM	#65
amh181276 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Thanks: Gave 4, Got 27 Posts: 185	I do feel for all that this is an annoyance, but it does seem to be the first thing people are now doing is to go looking for this fault on their sets. I have had 2 x ST50's I only swapped the first one due to excessive buzzing, but both of my screens had the band on the right handside, but for me I hardly notice it is there. I am sure the first screen also lessesned with time (only 3 weeks). I think the first set may have had a wider single band. It definately differs with settings to my eye. I also think the second set where the band is less noticeable to almost invisible may actually be slighly more reflective so maybe something to consider as a factor to the issue?? Has this been seen at all on the UT?

19-06-2012, 10:14 AM	#66
pioneer 1985 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: coventry Thanks: Gave 8, Got 18 Posts: 343	hey everyone, check out my post in the st50 thread about this issue saves double posting. Panasonic ST50 Owners Thread

19-06-2012, 10:19 AM	#68
jimmya200 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Carshalton Thanks: Gave 239, Got 157 Posts: 948	As someone has already posted that Panasonic are investing this, I can confirm that is the case. Fingers crossed for a resolution and not a "within spec" type approach.

19-06-2012, 12:17 PM	#70
Zaichik Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Thanks: Gave 169, Got 25 Posts: 860	No sign of this on my GT50, and I even forced myself to watch some football to see if I could see it!

19-06-2012, 12:45 PM	#71
Inked Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aylesbury Thanks: Gave 1,100, Got 679 Posts: 6,189	I have two different types, I have the thick bands running from top to bottom of the screen which can be seen when watching things like football (looks like I have three of these, one on the left of the panel and two on the right - these do not look like DSE, more like higher light output from behind the places they occur - obviously this is not the case as plasma doesn't use backlight), but I also have thin vertical stripes on the far left of the panel (three or four) which are much more like DSE as they look like they are in front of the image.

19-06-2012, 1:42 PM	#72
theprofessor Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Thanks: Gave 3, Got 4 Posts: 50	I've sent one 42GT50 back for this very issue. My replacement is miles better - BUT there is one (mild) DSE vBand and with all the Euro footy at the mo, it's becoming annoying. It's also more bizzar as you only see it when panning from left to right, can't see it the other way! Bonkers. I was hoping it would go with age or update, but from what's been said here about the filter application - I guess there's no chance! What to do next?.......

19-06-2012, 1:56 PM	#75
jimmya200 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Carshalton Thanks: Gave 239, Got 157 Posts: 948	If out of every 100 sets Panasonic sell and only 2 people report the problem, they will NOT do anything about it. However if 70 people report it they WILL. Anyone with this issue please report it. Not just to your retailer but directly to Panasonic.

19-06-2012, 3:14 PM	#78
Inked Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aylesbury Thanks: Gave 1,100, Got 679 Posts: 6,189	Any decent retailer will already be reporting it to Panasonic UK

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gowerboy New Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Thanks: Gave 4, Got 2 Posts: 15	What if in 6 months you were to contact retailer\Panasonic saying that your tv had developed a fault, i.e. faint vertical line, would this be covered under the warranty?

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jimmya200 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Carshalton Thanks: Gave 239, Got 157 Posts: 948	Band also visible on royal ascot, again grass background.

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