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2012 Samsung specification sheet (US version):
- E550 http://www.abt.com/documents/42418/PN51E550_specs.pdf
- E6500 http://www.abt.com/documents/42426/PN60E6500_specs.pdf
- E7000 http://www.abt.com/documents/42427/PN51E7000_specs.pdf
- E8000 http://www.abt.com/documents/42433/P...00%20specs.pdf

[Barfly]

Sigh. I get extremely depressed when I read the following:

"Fitness: Now you can maintain a healthy lifestyle with Samsung Smart TV’s Fitness. Exercise at
home through the video-on-demand service and manage your workout history. You can also track
your progress by downloading the Exercise App onto your mobile device."

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Originally Posted by Barfly

Sigh. I get extremely depressed when I read the following:...

You'll probably be more depressed when the prices come out for the 2012 sets.

[markie1966]

Found this Samsung 2012 TVs' release dates and pricing announced | News | TechRadar

[david_lee]

uk spec for 60 inch 6 series plasma... high price on this website
SAMSUNG PS60E6500 Plasma TV | Laskys.com

[deblee]

Originally Posted by david_lee

uk spec for 60 inch 6 series plasma... high price on this website
SAMSUNG PS60E6500 Plasma TV | Laskys.com

Have Samsung dropped the +1 screen size now then?

[david_lee]

well they used have 59 + 1... now they just have 60inch... all same

[deblee]

Originally Posted by david_lee

well they used have 59 + 1... now they just have 60inch... all same

Sorry I was thinking 50", just realised they are still doing the 51"

[panman40]

I thought Samsung used to be 50" + 1(51") and 58" +1(59"). The new one i would guess is 60" but actually measures 59.9" according to the Spec posted in this thread.

[jasjw]

Cant wait for the Sammy Plasma's to be released, Infact I can't wait for some reviews. I've got a HX923 but I'm always looking to upgrade lol.

Not too fused about the Panasonics, ST50 isn't good enough, The GT50 Doesn't come in a 55", And the VT50, Unless its alot brighter is also a no go.

[davidcrofter]

Originally Posted by jasjw

Cant wait for the Sammy Plasma's to be released, Infact I can't wait for some reviews. I've got a HX923 but I'm always looking to upgrade lol.

Not too fused about the Panasonics, ST50 isn't good enough, The GT50 Doesn't come in a 55", And the VT50, Unless its alot brighter is also a no go.

Based on what - design, features or picture quality??

Until we start seeing reviews it would be folly to say who has produced the best plasma range this year ...

[Scooby2000]

Originally Posted by davidcrofter

Based on what - design, features or picture quality??

Until we start seeing reviews it would be folly to say who has produced the best plasma range this year ...

I vote LG...sorry couldn't resist.

[jasjw]

Design - Too thick, Only 3 HDMI ports.

PQ- I doubt it will be as good as my HX923 or the new Sammys. Fears over brighnesss fluctuations, Blacks not as good as the ST30, So they wont be a patch on the VT50, HX923, or Even the Flagship Sammy.

But yeah your right, Untill the reviews are out we can't write no set off.

[jasjw]

Originally Posted by Scooby2000

I vote LG...sorry couldn't resist.

LG's would be good if they could sort out the Motion, Banding and black level...Ohhh and Input lag. lol.

[Scooby2000]

Originally Posted by jasjw

LG's would be good if they could sort out the Motion, Banding and black level...Ohhh and Input lag. lol.

don't forget bad IR I'm looking forward to the new Samsungs myself, I think Panasonic will still be better in some areas though.

[Hades]

Originally Posted by Scooby2000

don't forget bad IR I'm looking forward to the new Samsungs myself, I think Panasonic will still be better in some areas though.

And lets not forget horrendous DSE

[deblee]

Originally Posted by jasjw

Design - Too thick, Only 3 HDMI ports.

PQ- I doubt it will be as good as my HX923 or the new Sammys. Fears over brighnesss fluctuations, Blacks not as good as the ST30, So they wont be a patch on the VT50, HX923, or Even the Flagship Sammy.

But yeah your right, Untill the reviews are out we can't write no set off.

You basing this on US versions?
You seen the ST50 review right?

[jasjw]

Originally Posted by deblee

You basing this on US versions?
You seen the ST50 review right?

Yes its what I have read from various sites.

[jasjw]

Does anyone know the thickness of the ST50? I cant find the info anywhere. I've just seen a picture and it looks quite thick in comparison to other sets.

[davidcrofter]

Originally Posted by Scooby2000

I vote LG...sorry couldn't resist.

They could surprise - you never know until reviews start popping up.

Some people seem to be thinking it is only Panasonic Vs Samsung from now on and I think that may be jumping the gun a bit based on one pretty average plasma output year from LG.

Time will tell I guess ... and it depends how much attention LG are paying to the plasma range (which doesn't seem a lot based on their marketing). They still seem to be focussing on Smart TV and 3D.

[deblee]

Have to say if LG put some effort in I reckon they would be a very good choice
Love their styling, menu's and overall picture, with better blacks and decent 3d they could be the dark horse

[deblee]

Originally Posted by jasjw

Yes its what I have read from various sites.

According to the review the US ST50 has better blacks than the ST30
Looks like a slim bezel as well
ST series -Plasma HDTV | PRODUCT | 2012 North America | VIERA | Plasma&LCD TV | Panasonic Global

UK version
VIERA Flat Screen TV - 2012 Smart VIERA Plasma TV - TX-P50ST50B - Overview - Panasonic UK & Ireland

[Barfly]

Originally Posted by jasjw

Does anyone know the thickness of the ST50? I cant find the info anywhere. I've just seen a picture and it looks quite thick in comparison to other sets.

According to Amazon dot com the 50inch ST50 has following physical dimensions -- 46.5 x 1.8 x 28 inches ; 48.6 pounds

[Scooby2000]

Originally Posted by davidcrofter

They could surprise - you never know until reviews start popping up.

Some people seem to be thinking it is only Panasonic Vs Samsung from now on and I think that may be jumping the gun a bit based on one pretty average plasma output year from LG.

Time will tell I guess ... and it depends how much attention LG are paying to the plasma range (which doesn't seem a lot based on their marketing). They still seem to be focussing on Smart TV and 3D.

I did think(hoped) that in 2011 it would be Panasonic v LG going by the 2010 effort, instead it was Samsung that stepped up. I think LG will be LED and OLED next year, at CES LG had their plasmas hidden away out of view almost and the 2011 sets weren't much different to the 2010 sets.

[deblee]

Originally Posted by Scooby2000

I did think(hoped) that in 2011 it would be Panasonic v LG going by the 2010 effort, instead it was Samsung that stepped up. I think LG will be LED and OLED next year, at CES LG had their plasmas hidden away out of view almost and the 2011 sets weren't much different to the 2010 sets.

Mind you if you tweak the pots you can get Panny/Samsung blacks
LG Plasma Panel tweaks for better blacks. - Page 37 - AVS Forum
Although it seems LG are on the case now

If they could sort out a decent screen filter I'd probably nab a set

[DIMA NETU]

Samsung 2012 TV Briefing Mar 6, 2012
PN60E8000

We measured the peak-white and black levels (36.5 and 0.006fL for a contrast ratio of 6083:1), but not the grayscale or colorimetry. The black level here was 30 percent lower than we got on last year's PN59D8000 flagship plasma (0.009fL), confirming Samsung's claim that it has lowered the black level on this year's plasmas. Real-world content looked gorgeous, with rich colors, exceptional detail, and no motion blur or soap-opera effect.

Samsung 2012 TV Briefing | Home Theater

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Originally Posted by DIMA NETU

Samsung 2012 TV Briefing Mar 6, 2012
PN60E8000

Samsung 2012 TV Briefing | Home Theater

So I guess, on the contrary with the first reports, there will be no 43” E550:

"Turning to plasma TVs, most of which will be available this month, the flagship E8000 line includes three sizes—51, 60, and 64 inches—at prices from $2200 to $3950. The same sizes are available in the step-down E7000 and E550 lines ($1200 to $3400), while the E6500 and E530 lines are available at 51 and 60 inches for $1000 to $2200."

[Jtm79]

Still not any info if these have frame interpolation?

[Nicholars]

So when are the new plasmas supposed to come out? .... When are the 2011 models being phased out?

[Insanity202]

Originally Posted by Nicholars

So when are the new plasmas supposed to come out? .... When are the 2011 models being phased out?

Richer Sounds are going to start selling the new range from the end of March/Early April.
Prices will pop up on there site closer to the time.