[Lalami1990]

Originally Posted by kingkarl

Nice one dude , now all we need to strengthen our 65" army is for little old Simon to buy one

Originally Posted by Simon Lill

Taking donations now at 404 - File Not Found - JustGiving

:-)

Haha I think we need to focus on the Kuro owners and convince them that the Sharp Elite is never coming to the UK and for them to give up on all hope and join us

[outerhaven]

Oh, is it worth upgrading to a Panasonic 3D Home Theatre System? I mean I've already got one for Blu-Ray and I've also got a PS3... So is it worth the hassle of upgrading the Home Theatre System at the same time or do you think the PS3 will do the job.

Was looking at the SC-BTT270E, I know it's entry level but all I can afford at this moment.

[Lalami1990]

Originally Posted by outerhaven

Oh, is it worth upgrading to a Panasonic 3D Home Theatre System? I mean I've already got one for Blu-Ray and I've also got a PS3... So is it worth the hassle of upgrading the Home Theatre System at the same time or do you think the PS3 will do the job.

Was looking at the SC-BTT270E, I know it's entry level but all I can afford at this moment.

If you already have two BD players then it wouldn't be worth doing that. Maybe it would be worth looking at a home cinema package which includes an amp and speakers. a decent one will knock back around £300.

http://www.saverstore.com/product/20...Tall-Speakers-

[outerhaven]

I've already got a Panasonic Blu-Ray Home Theatre System. So I'm guessing it's not worth then to upgrade to the 3D version as I can just use my PS3 for the 3D content?

[Andori]

Originally Posted by outerhaven

Oh, is it worth upgrading to a Panasonic 3D Home Theatre System? I mean I've already got one for Blu-Ray and I've also got a PS3... So is it worth the hassle of upgrading the Home Theatre System at the same time or do you think the PS3 will do the job.

Was looking at the SC-BTT270E, I know it's entry level but all I can afford at this moment.

Personal opinion, I would avoid the Panny all in one. The Father in Law bought an SC-BTT370 against my better judgement (I was trying to push him down separates route). Given how he has it set up, the sub is just way too boomy and loud. The best I could do is dial it down by 6dB in the menu, and it was still over 10dB louder than the other speakers.

Another couple of options of separates are the Yamaha AV71 and Onkyo HTS5405 that can be had for about £350 from Superfi.

Going separates route allows you to upgrade bits separately in the future if you so wish (or if 1 part breaks).

Given you have a Panny all in one system atm, you can still use your PS3 for 3D connected direct to the TV and optical to the Panny, or connect the PS3 to the Panny if it supports 3D.

[Lalami1990]

Originally Posted by outerhaven

I've already got a Panasonic Blu-Ray Home Theatre System. So I'm guessing it's not worth then to upgrade to the 3D version as I can just use my PS3 for the 3D content?

Sorry I had misread your post. I agree, if you already have a PS3 and a home theatre system then I wouldn't bother.

[outerhaven]

Thanks, I'll hold off Home Theatre front then for the time being, get used to the new VT30 then upgrade to whichever Home Theatre best suits my needs in the future.

And after looking at the Panasonic Range for 3D Home Theatre, the speakers look so cheap... compared to the older models, I actually like the look of the All in one speakers I've got now... The new models look really ugly to me to be honest....

May go for a different one later down the line then.

Thanks for the responses...

[Moonwalker2006]

I'm on the fence on what to do here...i wasn't at home today so didn't have time to call the shop. Just got back home and did some tests on my tv.

TXP50VT30 here


My VT30 definitely has the green blobs and vertical banding too , and even at times i believe i see horizontal lines..goddamn. But here's the thing.

I don't see anything while watching movies, no green blobs, no vertical banding. I play alot of videogames and some games show it and some don't, and when it doesn't show it..it really doesn't show it at all...nowhere to be seen. When it does show, i'm trying to ignore it, but i find myself getting annoyed by it greatly. A tv that costs around the 1600-2000 shouldn't be doing that, that is one thing i'm pretty certain of.

The green blob used to be very visible when i used the remote and pressed the 'guide' button, i don't see a green blob at all anymore when i do that, so in a way it has improved. However, just now i used Andromeda's(from this forum) way of showing them. And that is by putting on a certain test pattern or simply some break in slides. Put the sharpness from 5 to 0 and colour to zero...and that's when i really see that green blob, especially in the grey pictures. That's when i see it's not showing a full grey pattern/picture at all. I also see the banding there. I'm sure neither Panasonic or my shop could deny this.

Also when i connect my laptop via hdmi to my VT30 and play this video, with either normal or thx picture setting...it's definitely anything but white. It's green-white, but not fully white, like it displays on my laptop.

Test green halos - Aloni VERDI Panasonic VT30 GT30 G30 H264 - YouTube

But now the part where i'm on the fence about this thing....i've been taking all kinds of scenarios into account.

1- I call the shop tomorrow, explain them whats wrong and i'd like to know what they could do to help me with this. If they don't really come up with anything...i can ask what other tv's they have that are similar in spec or just my money back. If they agree....

2- Which tv? I'm guessing Samsung, but which one is similar/close to the VT30's fantastic picture quality and black levels? I'm seeing a Samsung PS59D6900 for 1539 right now, my VT30 was 1625.

How is that one in comparison with the VT30? I don't really care for 3D, cause i can't even properly see it in the first place.

The problem though is...if the shop DOES not give me my money back, and i have no idea if they have the right to do that. I can only choose between these..that are in the 1600 euro price range, like the VT30 for me was. (its 2099 there now though)

LG 50 PZ 950
Panasonic TX-P50GT30E

Option 3 is...

Get another VT30, but that's basically knowing its gonna show my green blobs and banding again, by the looks of experiences on this forum. And it could mean i get a VT30 that has it even worse than my current VT30 has...i reaaaaaaally dont want that.

The way it is now...i CAN live with this. BUT...it hasn't been a year yet since i bought the tv, and i am just very afraid the time will come that it gets much worse and then i will regret not having done enough about it.

[PannyWizard]

well folks time for an update. my 50vt30 has clocked in around 500 hours now and my green blob has almost faded completely. I am getting it calibrated on sunday which i think will help it even more. i only notice a very very slight shade of green on 2% viewing now. 98% of the time i never see it. I am very lucky that it has imporved. This set is now amazing. Cant wait to see what it looks like on sunday after its calibrated

[Moonwalker2006]

Originally Posted by PannyWizard

well folks time for an update. my 50vt30 has clocked in around 500 hours now and my green blob has almost faded completely. I am getting it calibrated on sunday which i think will help it even more. i only notice a very very slight shade of green on 2% viewing now. 98% of the time i never see it. I am very lucky that it has imporved. This set is now amazing. Cant wait to see what it looks like on sunday after its calibrated

You don't have any vertical banding?

And as for calibration, i never found it really nessecary to have that done, i mean....can it possibly make such a big difference? I mean, we can go into advanced settings and changed it ourselves if we want :D

[PannyWizard]

slight banding i can live with. And of coarse calibration makes a difference. Getting gamma bang on is very important as is colour. It improves blacks also. I am not a ISF engineer so we looking at advanced controls and white balance numbers means nothing to me i cant do it myself. For me the difference in quality between a uncalibrated set and a calibrated one is night and day. Worth every penny

[krisabf]

Originally Posted by PannyWizard

well folks time for an update. my 50vt30 has clocked in around 500 hours now and my green blob has almost faded completely. I am getting it calibrated on sunday which i think will help it even more. i only notice a very very slight shade of green on 2% viewing now. 98% of the time i never see it. I am very lucky that it has imporved. This set is now amazing. Cant wait to see what it looks like on sunday after its calibrated

I don't know what to do with mine now, i got my 42VT30 on Wednesday and the green blob is really quite prominent. I don't know if i should get some hours on it and just see what happens or try another set....

It looks like its a lottery with these sets, sometimes they clear up, sometimes they don't.

[outerhaven]

Just hope I win the VT30 lottery when my 42VT30 arrives tomorrow then....

[Moonwalker2006]

Turns out yet another busy day tomorrow, not alot of time to call the store and explain the whole problem. Let alone provide them links of the green tinge fault thread. So i wrote an email , explaining everything. They were already up to date last year on what happened with my VT30, that E-care came to my home,etc. So this shouldn't come as a huge surprise.

Basically i just put the two links of the two green tinge fault threads in there and a photo of an example of how it looks. I also said that most people with the problem simply choose a different tv, cause you'd have to be lucky to find one without green tinge,banding,etc. And basically that i'd like to know what they can do for me, since Panasonic more or less said they can't do a thing about this.

I can try one more thing though...firmware update. The tv itself says its up to date, but ive had that before, and there was a more recent firmware update on the internet. What is the latest and where? Cause i can't find firmware updates on the panasonic site. My current firmware is 1.801.

[gee123]

Originally Posted by Moonwalker2006

Turns out yet another busy day tomorrow, not alot of time to call the store and explain the whole problem. Let alone provide them links of the green tinge fault thread. So i wrote an email , explaining everything. They were already up to date last year on what happened with my VT30, that E-care came to my home,etc. So this shouldn't come as a huge surprise.

Basically i just put the two links of the two green tinge fault threads in there and a photo of an example of how it looks. I also said that most people with the problem simply choose a different tv, cause you'd have to be lucky to find one without green tinge,banding,etc. And basically that i'd like to know what they can do for me, since Panasonic more or less said they can't do a thing about this.

I can try one more thing though...firmware update. The tv itself says its up to date, but ive had that before, and there was a more recent firmware update on the internet. What is the latest and where? Cause i can't find firmware updates on the panasonic site. My current firmware is 1.801.

Are you from the uk, if you are I can only find firmware up to 1604.

[Moonwalker2006]

Originally Posted by gee123

Are you from the uk, if you are I can only find firmware up to 1604.

Holland here

I've did a few more tests, i played Tomb Raider again, L.A. Noire and i rotated the camera while looking at the sky, and once again i see things that didn't belong in the game. I saw things in the screen. So i put on that grey break in image again, and that's when i saw it..it's not just only on the right and left side with vertical banding, it's also in the middle..it's in alot more places. That's the kind of **** i see when rotating the camera around in my games..the stuff that is annoying me greatly.

I may have incredible eyes...(doubt it) but already from the thumbs i could see the green blob effect...and trust me, when you see it here, especially with the lights off, it's horrible, and the lines are very visible too, and that's exactly the stuff that is annoying me in my gaming and distracting me.

pics here, i tried displaying a fully grey image

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5...0116193409.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6...0117010934.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8...0117011952.jpg

[Scooby2000]

Originally Posted by Moonwalker2006

You don't have any vertical banding?

And as for calibration, i never found it really nessecary to have that done, i mean....can it possibly make such a big difference? I mean, we can go into advanced settings and changed it ourselves if we want :D

....guessing you're joking?
If I had the mone and a non green set Id get a pro out ASAP myself.

[Moonwalker2006]

Originally Posted by Scooby2000

....guessing you're joking?
If I had the mone and a non green set Id get a pro out ASAP myself.

Really? Damn...that much difference then? I'm gonna have to wait and see how my 'story' develops, what/if i get another tv (different brand etc?) and when all is done eventually, maybe i'll go look for one as well then. Just hope it's not incredibly pricey.

Thing is, i always hear different stories online, one says having a pro calibrate it won't do that much at all and is a waste of money, while the other says it's the best thing they could ever have done for their tv.

[Johnadavis]

Originally Posted by Lalami1990

Hmm I never use freesat on mine but to narrow down the problem I'd recommend that you use a different remote e.g. one for all, Sky remote etc... that you might have laying about around the house and try that.

Thanks Lalami and other responses to my Remote Problem.
This is the NEW improved Remote (in black) from Panasonic, keys are very much recessed. Will try your suggestion. However, would we expect a remote to have a problem after six weeks use. Should it be replaced by the Retailer or Panasonic. Will this problem occur in the future ?
Would Panasonic allow a brilliant TV to be spoiled by a dodgy remote !!!!!! Hope not.
Thanks again.
johnadavis

[Lalami1990]

Originally Posted by Johnadavis

Thanks Lalami and other responses to my Remote Problem.
This is the NEW improved Remote (in black) from Panasonic, keys are very much recessed. Will try your suggestion. However, would we expect a remote to have a problem after six weeks use. Should it be replaced by the Retailer or Panasonic. Will this problem occur in the future ?
Would Panasonic allow a brilliant TV to be spoiled by a dodgy remote !!!!!! Hope not.
Thanks again.
johnadavis

If its the remote I would strongly push for the retailer to change it for you as Panasonic would need the remote to be sent to them first before posting out a new one (which is a real pain in the a**). That really shouldn't happen to a 6 week old tv tho . Btw it will be a good idea to say to the retailer that you have tried contacting Panasonic and that they told you to go back to the retailer

[Johnadavis]

Double thanks Lalami,
Retailer will replace the remote, no quibble, and then sort it out with Panasonic.

RESULT thanks to you.

johnadavis

[hunklebert]

Last night whilst watching a sitcom in HD (on my VT30) the camera panned to the left. On the wall was a photo in a frame and as the camera panned I noticed the frame had like a double edging/ghost like border!

What's all that about?

[Moonwalker2006]

Originally Posted by hunklebert

Last night whilst watching a sitcom in HD (on my VT30) the camera panned to the left. On the wall was a photo in a frame and as the camera panned I noticed the frame had like a double edging/ghost like border!

What's all that about?

Most likely to be vertical banding, i have it as well. Especially in games when i rotate the camera around.Highly annoying.

[hunklebert]

Originally Posted by Moonwalker2006

Most likely to be vertical banding, i have it as well. Especially in games when i rotate the camera around.Highly annoying.

Is that normal on these models then? I thought the 600Hz sfd & Fast Switching Phosphors would handle such things...

[Lalami1990]

Originally Posted by Johnadavis

Double thanks Lalami,
Retailer will replace the remote, no quibble, and then sort it out with Panasonic.

RESULT thanks to you.

johnadavis

No problem, I really hope it gets sorted soon.

[Lalami1990]

Hopefully my 65VT30 will be delivered tomorrow and I'm thinking about doing an unboxing video. If not, I'll upload a video of my setup.

[kingkarl]

Originally Posted by Lalami1990

Hopefully my 65VT30 will be delivered tomorrow and I'm thinking about doing an unboxing video. If not, I'll upload a video of my setup.

Nice one dude

[Simon Lill]

Originally Posted by hunklebert

Last night whilst watching a sitcom in HD (on my VT30) the camera panned to the left. On the wall was a photo in a frame and as the camera panned I noticed the frame had like a double edging/ghost like border!

What's all that about?

Welcome to the world of the 50hz bug.

Now you've seen it, you'll see it on everything!

IFC on Max for me, bar football where I knock it down to Mid.

Doesn't resolve it, just reduces it enough to stop you putting your fist through the TV

[outerhaven]

Just finished setting up my P42VT30... From what I can instantly see no problems thus far but I will need time to run through all the tests listed throughout the beginning of these threads but can't see anything at this moment but it might be because I'm tired so will have a much better look tomorrow.

Can I ask just one question, did anyone get any 3D Glasses Cases with their VT30? As I'm told by the manual and TV to put them away safetly into the 3D Glasses Case but none came with the TV and I can't seem to find anywhere that sells the cases seperately.

[micks_address]

Originally Posted by outerhaven

Just finished setting up my P42VT30... From what I can instantly see no problems thus far but I will need time to run through all the tests listed throughout the beginning of these threads but can't see anything at this moment but it might be because I'm tired so will have a much better look tomorrow.

Can I ask just one question, did anyone get any 3D Glasses Cases with their VT30? As I'm told by the manual and TV to put them away safetly into the 3D Glasses Case but none came with the TV and I can't seem to find anywhere that sells the cases seperately.

You probably got the 3rd gen glasses. Mine came with 2nd gen pair. They had boxes. Your better off with newer type. No boxes though so Panasonic can keep costs down