Farnborough 2012

jomike · 03-07-2012, 3:34 PM

I heard a racket outside, grabbed the camera, quickly shoved on the 300mm f/4 plus Kenko 1.4 TC and rushed out. Seems that preparations for Farnborough 2012 have started. The light was poor and the sky overcast, so not ideal.

1. I know there is not much prop blur on this but I was in a hurry.

Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey by jomike, on Flickr

2. I first thought this was the Dutch F16 but on closer inspection it seems to be a F17 Thunder. Pakistani maybe? Edit: Now ID'd as a Korean Black Eagles T50.

Korean Black Eagles T50 by jomike, on Flickr

3. He came right overhead on his landing approach.

Korean Black Eagles T50 by jomike, on Flickr

shotokan101 · 03-07-2012, 4:27 PM

very nicely grabbed

RajP · 04-07-2012, 10:30 AM

Very nice looking at the lighting available...

jomike · 05-07-2012, 4:01 PM

The Breitling Jet diplay team were out practising earlier.

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Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr

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Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr

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Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr

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Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr

shotokan101 · 06-07-2012, 1:38 AM

Great shots - but I've gotta say that I think the Advertising Logo really spoils them for me - hence #3 is my favourite....

Jim

jomike · 06-07-2012, 7:46 AM

Thanks Jim.

The Breitling team is apparently the only privately owned jet display team in the world (based in France).
They probably need the sponsorship, hence the advertising

shotokan101 · 06-07-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jomike

Thanks Jim.

The Breitling team is apparently the only privately owned jet display team in the world (based in France).
They probably need the sponsorship, hence the advertising

I fully appreciate that Mike - and to a great extent it's not even the commercialism that's a problem for me it's all about the Aesthetics - there's no visual appeal to it or graphical elements to soften the Logo at all it's simply (IMO) a "Pig Ugly" Font with no appeal whatsoever in a not very attractive colour either - it might look "O.K." on an overpriced watch but on these beautiful machines it just looks plain "wrong" to me - I've seen better photoshopped on "watermarks" <rant mode off>

jomike · 07-07-2012, 12:03 PM

The Vulcan paid a quick visit to Farnborough this morning, he did a few touch and gos, then probably went on to RIAT.

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Avro Vulcan by jomike, on Flickr

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Avro Vulcan by jomike, on Flickr

**spyder viewer** · 07-07-2012, 2:46 PM

Lovely photo! When they used to hold Biggin Hill Air show, the Vulcan holding area was over my house: the original sub-woofer!

shotokan101 · 07-07-2012, 3:19 PM

Nice Vulcan shots Mike

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 1:15 PM

Over my house today. Not the same quality as above as I don't have my 70-300mm anymore so I had to crop in some but in others I just let the different exposures do their stuff with no crop. Its such a great looking aircraft silhouetted against the sky any. Hope "you" don't mind as there are a few of them......

At one point four other propeller...training aircraft I think.... buzzed the Vulcan and followed it for quite a while. great to watch

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shotokan101 · 09-07-2012, 1:35 PM

I particularly like 3, 5 and 6 Gazza - looks like you really need to buy a nice Minolta Tele-zoom - one going cheap on the Classifieds at the moment

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 1:57 PM

Might be interested but not sure what people mean by "fast". Is that speed to lock on focus ? As my Sigma 70-300 was the same f rating and I never had a problem with that

shotokan101 · 09-07-2012, 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by topgazza

Might be interested but not sure what people mean by "fast". Is that speed to lock on focus ? As my Sigma 70-300 was the same f rating and I never had a problem with that

Well I this case I think he means perhaps the speed to get initial focus and possibly how quickly it adjusts focus afterwards if tracking something ? - but of course we don't know what sort of shooting he wants a tele-zoom for...

I'd expect the Minolta to be very similar in that AF speed side of things as your Siggie was as both are screw drive AF and not SSM/SAM

Jim

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 2:15 PM

Having just sold my 70-300 as I wasn't using it its kind of frustrating to not have it on the odd day. But I knew that when I sold it. I'll have a think about it as I'm not sure how it would have coped with the Vulcan today even though it was moving relatively slowly.....so to speak. Not whizzing by like a bird of prey or similar

couple more

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shotokan101 · 09-07-2012, 2:22 PM

FWIW - I used the Minolta in question for my first ever BIF/BOP shots from Austria last year and some turned out o.k. - considering I rather stupidly left the camera on "indoor low light settings" as we were rushing to catch the display and needed a lot of PP on the RAW's

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 2:24 PM

Just offered 150 so we will see.....

shotokan101 · 09-07-2012, 2:26 PM

Good Luck

jomike · 09-07-2012, 7:59 PM

Where do you live topgazza?

I missed the Vulcan today, as well as the Lancaster. Light was bad, so not too upset.

I did manage to get the 787 Dreamliner earlier. Came right over the house on his landing approach.

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Boeing 787 Dreamliner by jomike, on Flickr

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Boeing 787 Dreamliner by jomike, on Flickr

shotokan101 · 09-07-2012, 8:08 PM

love that first shot

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 8:19 PM

Its a cracker....and interesting settings as well. +5 exp comp...stops the whole thing underexposing because of the sky ?

jomike · 09-07-2012, 8:41 PM

It's actually +5/3 or +1.7 EV that I have dialled in, but yes, the aim is to overexpose the background sky to avoid the black silhouette effect on the aircraft.

I also set auto ISO with a threshold of 1/800s (on a 300mm +1.4TC = 420mm lens) to a maximum of ISO800 for jets. This means my s/speed never drops below 1/800s. Using aperture priority I can get maximum shutter speed with the lowest ISO for the available light.

I just have to remember to switch off auto ISO when I drop the s/speed for props else all my shots are ISO800.

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 8:48 PM

Thanks for the details...

I have plenty of shots with previous setups....sigh !

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 9:16 PM

Just playing and I have to set ISO at 800 as the A580 doesn't have an auto with max setting...my X10 does....but not the A580. But thats OK..I can always go 400 to be safe

shotokan101 · 09-07-2012, 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by topgazza

Just playing and I have to set ISO at 800 as the A580 doesn't have an auto with max setting...my X10 does....but not the A580. But thats OK..I can always go 400 to be safe

I think that if you just set the A580 to Auto ISO it maxes at 1600 ISO anyway

topgazza · 09-07-2012, 10:30 PM

That's true and I'll still get decent high shutter speeds.

jomike · 11-07-2012, 9:36 AM

Some from yesterday.

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Airbus A380 by jomike, on Flickr

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Airbus A380 by jomike, on Flickr

3. This one shows how the Dreamliner's wing flex.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner by jomike, on Flickr

shotokan101 · 11-07-2012, 11:02 AM

Great stuff - especially like the aspect and composition of #2

topgazza · 11-07-2012, 11:36 AM

A B52 flew over my house...no, not a member of the still touring band...but the aircraft. Couldn't get to the camera in time. Majestic beast.....

jomike · 11-07-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by topgazza

A B52 flew over my house...no, not a member of the still touring band...but the aircraft. Couldn't get to the camera in time. Majestic beast.....

I missed the Buff as well, heard him but didn't see him.

03-07-2012, 3:34 PM	#1
jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	Farnborough 2012 Advertisement Want to Advertise? I heard a racket outside, grabbed the camera, quickly shoved on the 300mm f/4 plus Kenko 1.4 TC and rushed out. Seems that preparations for Farnborough 2012 have started. The light was poor and the sky overcast, so not ideal. 1. I know there is not much prop blur on this but I was in a hurry. Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey by jomike, on Flickr 2. I first thought this was the Dutch F16 but on closer inspection it seems to be a F17 Thunder. Pakistani maybe? Edit: Now ID'd as a Korean Black Eagles T50. Korean Black Eagles T50 by jomike, on Flickr 3. He came right overhead on his landing approach. Korean Black Eagles T50 by jomike, on Flickr Last edited by jomike; 03-07-2012 at 4:02 PM. Reason: Plane ID amended.
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	That's true and I'll still get decent high shutter speeds. Last edited by topgazza; 09-07-2012 at 10:35 PM.
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jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	Some from yesterday. 1. Airbus A380 by jomike, on Flickr 2. Airbus A380 by jomike, on Flickr 3. This one shows how the Dreamliner's wing flex. Boeing 787 Dreamliner by jomike, on Flickr Last edited by jomike; 11-07-2012 at 10:34 AM.
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shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	very nicely grabbed
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RajP Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northwood Thanks: Gave 577, Got 1,676 Posts: 5,202	Very nice looking at the lighting available...
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05-07-2012, 4:01 PM	#4
jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	The Breitling Jet diplay team were out practising earlier. 1. Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr 2. Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr 3. Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr 4. Breitling Jet Display Team by jomike, on Flickr
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shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	Great shots - but I've gotta say that I think the Advertising Logo really spoils them for me - hence #3 is my favourite.... Jim
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jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	Thanks Jim. The Breitling team is apparently the only privately owned jet display team in the world (based in France). They probably need the sponsorship, hence the advertising
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07-07-2012, 12:03 PM	#8
jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	The Vulcan paid a quick visit to Farnborough this morning, he did a few touch and gos, then probably went on to RIAT. 1. Avro Vulcan by jomike, on Flickr 2. Avro Vulcan by jomike, on Flickr
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07-07-2012, 2:46 PM	#9
spyder viewer Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kent, UK Thanks: Gave 242, Got 568 Posts: 3,957	Lovely photo! When they used to hold Biggin Hill Air show, the Vulcan holding area was over my house: the original sub-woofer!
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shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	Nice Vulcan shots Mike
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Over my house today. Not the same quality as above as I don't have my 70-300mm anymore so I had to crop in some but in others I just let the different exposures do their stuff with no crop. Its such a great looking aircraft silhouetted against the sky any. Hope "you" don't mind as there are a few of them...... At one point four other propeller...training aircraft I think.... buzzed the Vulcan and followed it for quite a while. great to watch 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6.
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09-07-2012, 1:35 PM	#12
shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	I particularly like 3, 5 and 6 Gazza - looks like you really need to buy a nice Minolta Tele-zoom - one going cheap on the Classifieds at the moment
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09-07-2012, 1:57 PM	#13
topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Might be interested but not sure what people mean by "fast". Is that speed to lock on focus ? As my Sigma 70-300 was the same f rating and I never had a problem with that
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Having just sold my 70-300 as I wasn't using it its kind of frustrating to not have it on the odd day. But I knew that when I sold it. I'll have a think about it as I'm not sure how it would have coped with the Vulcan today even though it was moving relatively slowly.....so to speak. Not whizzing by like a bird of prey or similar couple more 1. 2. 3.
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09-07-2012, 2:22 PM	#16
shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	FWIW - I used the Minolta in question for my first ever BIF/BOP shots from Austria last year and some turned out o.k. - considering I rather stupidly left the camera on "indoor low light settings" as we were rushing to catch the display and needed a lot of PP on the RAW's
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Just offered 150 so we will see.....
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shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	Good Luck
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jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	Where do you live topgazza? I missed the Vulcan today, as well as the Lancaster. Light was bad, so not too upset. I did manage to get the 787 Dreamliner earlier. Came right over the house on his landing approach. 1. Boeing 787 Dreamliner by jomike, on Flickr 2. Boeing 787 Dreamliner by jomike, on Flickr
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shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	love that first shot
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Its a cracker....and interesting settings as well. +5 exp comp...stops the whole thing underexposing because of the sky ?
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jomike Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Frimley, Surrey Thanks: Gave 584, Got 394 Posts: 2,056	It's actually +5/3 or +1.7 EV that I have dialled in, but yes, the aim is to overexpose the background sky to avoid the black silhouette effect on the aircraft. I also set auto ISO with a threshold of 1/800s (on a 300mm +1.4TC = 420mm lens) to a maximum of ISO800 for jets. This means my s/speed never drops below 1/800s. Using aperture priority I can get maximum shutter speed with the lowest ISO for the available light. I just have to remember to switch off auto ISO when I drop the s/speed for props else all my shots are ISO800.
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Thanks for the details... I have plenty of shots with previous setups....sigh !
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	Just playing and I have to set ISO at 800 as the A580 doesn't have an auto with max setting...my X10 does....but not the A580. But thats OK..I can always go 400 to be safe
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shotokan101 Preeminent Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glasgow Thanks: Gave 6,504, Got 9,623 Posts: 46,634	Great stuff - especially like the aspect and composition of #2
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topgazza Conspicuous Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Thanks: Gave 1,074, Got 1,059 Posts: 9,283	A B52 flew over my house...no, not a member of the still touring band...but the aircraft. Couldn't get to the camera in time. Majestic beast.....
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