[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by bladedripper

Though you had 1.5gb of vram on a gtx480,.

ahh sorry yes 1.5gb vram.

[TheNameIsJambo]

From my understanding, this is a 'Tick' from Intel - an incremental upgrade, and that is exactly what they've provided.

I wasn't expecting mind-blowing performance, but I was expecting a rough 5-10% increase, and possibly lower temps. We got the former, but definitely not the latter - especially when it comes to pushing the silicon to it's limits.

By the looks of things, the main increase in performance comes from the HD4000; if you do a lot of transcoding, casual gaming, need to upgrade from an outdated CPU architecture (which is holding back your two HD7970s) or need a good CPU+GPU for your HTPC, then I'd definitely go with Ivy. Considering they're going to be (roughly) the same price as the Sandy chips, and offer slightly more performance.

I always put the CPU in precedence of the GPU... Since the CPU is the heart of the computer.

The better the CPU, the longer you can keep it and the better your system will run. Period.

So Barker, it's up to you - Whether you want to splash out on an LGA2011 or be conservative and get an LGA1155.

Both CPUs offer blistering performance, as you can very well see. But from my POV, the 2600K eats everything you throw at it and ***** out diamonds afterwards.

[Grangey.]

..All I want to know is can you get true USB3.0 and Sata III with sandybridge processors WITHOUT the need for onboard chips??

I see a number of the Z77 motherboards preach these features but I believe it relys on having an Ivy Bridge processor?

[AVF Jay]

Originally Posted by TheNameIsJambo

From my understanding, this is a 'Tick' from Intel - an incremental upgrade, and that is exactly what they've provided.

I said that at the start of the thread

Originally Posted by brembo

Forget the intel ticks.

Only reason to wait though is to see if sandybridge prices drop.

It was obvious from the start ivybridge wouldn't be worthwhile.

Laughable at all the people who were selling their 2500ks expecting a massive jump

If chief barker has no budget and wants high end he should be looking at a 3930k.

On a budget he should look at a 2500k.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

So the outcome of ivybridge, better imc, better igpu, runs hotter than sandybridge...No thanks

Originally Posted by Grangey.

..All I want to know is can you get true USB3.0 and Sata III with sandybridge processors WITHOUT the need for onboard chips??

I see a number of the Z77 motherboards preach these features but I believe it relys on having an Ivy Bridge processor?

Onboard chip? Do you mean onboard gpu? And it's not only ivybridge that has onboard gpus, sandybridge cpus have them too.

That's one of the selling points z68 boards had over p67, the ability to use the integrated gpu on the cpu.

Yes you can get usb 3.0 and sata III without ivybridge.

My p67 asus maximus extreme had usb 3.0 and sata III.

[Grangey.]

No sorry brembo I dont mean onboard chips like the GPU being in the CPU. I mean the way that most motherboards I had seen that offer USB3 and Sata III currently are doing by using onboard controllers/chips on the motherboard- my old P7P55D-E LX had USB3 and Sata III support for example and that was back on the 1156 chipset but they did this by using on board chips of some form (which did their own booting process in the bios) rather than just a native feature as sata II is.

From the limited amounts I had read I was lead to believe that it was only with Ivy Bridge processors that offered true on board USB3 and SataIII support without seperate onboard controllers of some sort? Or have I got that wrong and have just been looking at cheap ass motherboards?

[chief barker]

Originally Posted by brembo

If chief barker has no budget and wants high end he should be looking at a 3930k.

That is what i'm going for mate. I've spent too much time looking up benchmarks. I've got the ram, and the cooler. I Just need a nice Motherboard.

[AVF Jay]

Originally Posted by chief barker

That is what i'm going for mate. I've spent too much time looking up benchmarks. I've got the ram, and the cooler. I Just need a nice Motherboard.

I would recommend this LINK although I'm biased

A couple of other guys have that board too.

The other one I'd be tempted to go for is this LINK

Really want an EVGA motherboard

Obviously you'll read reviews but you can never really go wrong with high end motherboards.

[SparkShot]

Intel seem to have gone into drip feed mode recently.

I don't think the SB-E chips are a big enough step over SB let alone the diffence between Ivy and SB to warrant an upgrade of my 2500k.

I recon i can easily get another couple of years out of it if the current rate of cpu progress.

[IvyFanBoy]

im upgrading from a Qsomething (not at home so cant check lol ) so sandy or ivy ? will never watercool looking for 4.5 ghz i have a 77 board so if i went sb wot will i be losing out on ?

[AVF Jay]

Originally Posted by SparkShot

Intel seem to have gone into drip feed mode recently.

I don't think the SB-E chips are a big enough step over SB let alone the diffence between Ivy and SB to warrant an upgrade of my 2500k.

I recon i can easily get another couple of years out of it if the current rate of cpu progress.

Yeah I hate the way everything seems to be going slow.

I wish the myths that pc gamers had to upgrade every 2 weeks was true

Seriously nowadays if you buy a top end graphics card you can keep it for 2 years not change it every time a game is released the way ignorant console gamers think.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by LostFanBoy

im upgrading from a Qsomething (not at home so cant check lol ) so sandy or ivy ? will never watercool looking for 4.5 ghz i have a 77 board so if i went sb wot will i be losing out on ?

You have a q8300. If I was you I would go for a 3370k. Also remember that ivy is approx 4-5% faster clock for clock than sandy.


Chief - If I was you I would just go for the 2011 socket mainly for the extra pci-e lanes as you like to run more than one gpu. I have been very close to clicking buy now on a 3930k setup over the last few weeks.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by brembo

Yeah I hate the way everything seems to be going slow.

I blame AMD.

[chief barker]

Originally Posted by brembo

I would recommend this LINK although I'm biased

A couple of other guys have that board too.

The other one I'd be tempted to go for is this LINK

Really want an EVGA motherboard

Obviously you'll read reviews but you can never really go wrong with high end motherboards.

I was looking at this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-P9X79-P...5262320&sr=1-1

I've got a good idea you sell me your Rampage and you can get the board you linked to

[AVF Jay]

Originally Posted by LostFanBoy

im upgrading from a Qsomething (not at home so cant check lol ) so sandy or ivy ? will never watercool looking for 4.5 ghz i have a 77 board so if i went sb wot will i be losing out on ?

You might as well stick with ivybridge, as you went out and bought a z77 specifically for it so you might as well get the most out of it.

4.5ghz on air will not be a problem.

Yes the cpus might run hotter, but that will only be an issue on really big overclocks, and to be honest until people start buying them and overclocking them/benching them no one really knows how they will perform.

For all anyone knows they might need less voltage to be stable at 4.5ghz compared to sandybridge.

[AVF Jay]

Originally Posted by chief barker

I was looking at this one.

Asus P9X79 PRO Motherboard (Socket 2011, Intel X79, DDR3 Quad Channel, ATX, PCI Express 3.0, Dual Intelligent Processors 3 with New DIGI+ Power Control): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

Can't go wrong with asus pro or deluxe motherboards.

I had a z68 pro motherboard and it was a decent board.

But obviously I have no experience of that motherboard, it could be crap (doubtful though)

Reviews will give you a better idea.

I absolutely love rog boards though, and have always had good experiences with them.

For 60 quid more you could get this

Asus Rampage IV Formula X79 Motherboard Socket 2011 - 90-MIBVHI1-G0AAY00Z - Scan.co.uk

[IvyFanBoy]

why is there no pricing ?

[Sinzer]

Some good info from Tomshardware on the overclocking capabilities of the 3770K:

Overclocking Ivy Bridge: Core i7-3770K Is A Mixed Bag : Intel Core i7-3770K Review: A Small Step Up For Ivy Bridge

Says they run on average 10 degrees hotter than the 2700K at similar clocks.

Air cooling they don't go as high as the 2700K and from their 3 test chips, they got different results from each one, possibly showing that it is hit and miss with the chips. With phase cooling it will likely be a different story as the multipliers are increased.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by majnu

Keep an eye on this thread for retail (not engineering sample) overclock benches.
i5 3570K quick test. - Overclockers UK Forums

We're you this annoying in the console section? I am sure we don't all need constant links to ocuk forums for info.

Please, please stop as you are kinda ruining this section with your constant spamming of links and copy/paste of info we already know.

[jonneymendoza]

maybe he is a OCUK employee?

[majnu]

Originally Posted by Razor

We're you this annoying in the console section? I am sure we don't all need constant links to ocuk forums for info.

Please, please stop as you are kinda ruining this section with your constant spamming of links and copy/paste of info we already know.

okay

[AVF Jay]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

maybe he is a OCUK employee?

[namuk]

Originally Posted by chief barker

I was looking at this one.

Asus P9X79 PRO Motherboard (Socket 2011, Intel X79, DDR3 Quad Channel, ATX, PCI Express 3.0, Dual Intelligent Processors 3 with New DIGI+ Power Control): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

I've got a good idea you sell me your Rampage and you can get the board you linked to

Deluxe version ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS P9X79 DELUXE

this is the 16 cpu phase version the rog is 8 phase but you also get the x-socket mate.

[IvyFanBoy]

OKL Im home now ..come on get the pre orders up people !!!!

[SparkShot]

Isn't friday the official release day, although you would have thought there would be some kind of preorder system in place.

When i got my gtx680 i was able to order mine from scan the day before the official release.

Maybe intel are more strict with that sort of thing.

[IvyFanBoy]

However, as you’ll no doubt have spotted throughout our performance graphs, the £160 i5-3570K is never far behind, and overclocks just as well (and in our case, better) than the i7-3770K. Here we see a case of history repeating itself: while the i7-3770K is faster at stock, the i5-3750K is far better value, and unless you’re making extensive use of applications that can take advantage of Hyper-threading such as rendering or video encoding, the i5-3750K is the better choice

hmm lol
Intel Core i7-3770K CPU Review | bit-tech.net

UK price (as reviewed): Around £240 inc VAT

[Grangey.]

£160 eh? That leaves some 2500ks at around the £100 mark 2nd hand then,...upgrade due!

[majnu]

Some interesting articles online as to why the IB runs hot when oc. I won't link to the thread Razor don't worry

[wolvers]

Post whatever you want to m8.

Originally Posted by LostFanBoy

hmm lol
Intel Core i7-3770K CPU Review | bit-tech.net

UK price (as reviewed): Around £240 inc VAT

I'd still pay the extra for HT, well worth it IMO.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by wolvers

Post whatever you want to m8.

Its not just me mate.

Originally Posted by wolvers

I'd still pay the extra for HT, well worth it IMO.

Same here. Longevity rules.

[SparkShot]

I would imagine by the time games take full avantage of the non HT 2500k/3750k cpus, the HT versions will most likely be on their last legs aswell given they only bring a handfull of extra frames at best.