Dx11 Games & Hardware (part 2)

Razor · 04-10-2009, 11:56 AM

As the other thread has gone over the 1000 post limit I thought I would start part 2 of Dx11 Games & Hardware.

**Chaos** · 04-10-2009, 11:57 AM

Saves me a job

namuk · 04-10-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor

As the other thread has gone over the 1000 post limit I thought I would start part 2 of Dx11 Games & Hardware.

Well done mate your Awarded the Avf soap on a Rope Award

Razor · 04-10-2009, 12:31 PM

Cheers nam. Does it come with a dual core cpu?

namuk · 04-10-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor

Cheers nam. Does it come with a dual core cpu?

the Dual core is inside the Soap, the Pins stick out at the Back , you could really call the Soap on a Rope Dual Action , but Jim always Sorts it out

Razor · 04-10-2009, 12:52 PM

As long as Jim can fix it for Nvidia to hurry up and release their next gen cards I will be happy.

mrbobc · 04-10-2009, 1:35 PM

has no one done a dx11 5870 dirt 2 test with pics yet? come on guys surely someones got one to test out a full dx 11 set up with W7

Razor · 04-10-2009, 1:39 PM

Thats because the game hasn't been released yet.

Also you dont need win7 for Dx11. It works on vista but not on xp.

GMC79 · 04-10-2009, 1:58 PM

If you buy the Sapphire 5870 from Overclockers it says it includes Dirt 2, Disc or Code u think then ?

So when am i likely to struggle with games with my 4870 and require an upgrade? Will most likely wait till end of nxt year before even thinking about it if possible.
Would mean ruining tidy build and changing my PSU tho

Razor · 04-10-2009, 2:06 PM

Dirt 2 is via a download from a supplied code when it is releases. I think the download is from steam.

Dirt 2 is out in December on the pc.

BTW what psu have you got? A good 500watt should be fine for a 5870.

GMC79 · 04-10-2009, 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor

Dirt 2 is via a download from a supplied code when it is releases. I think the download is from steam.

Dirt 2 is out in December on the pc.

BTW what psu have you got? A good 500watt should be fine for a 5870.

I got a OCZ SteathXStream 500w Silent ATX2, when i nearly got the 4870x2 would have had a 650w version.
Reckon if i come to a 5870 id be ok?

Razor · 04-10-2009, 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GMC79

I got a OCZ SteathXStream 500w Silent ATX2, when i nearly got the 4870x2 would have had a 650w version.
Reckon if i come to a 5870 id be ok?

You will be fine with a 5870 and your psu.

GMC79 · 04-10-2009, 2:19 PM

Nice one good to know, simple 2 minute job.

When they get cheaper may just get one anyway mid 2010, not like i may require one at my 1360x768 but if the od DX11 game starts to struggle will fire one in, nice to have in anyway.

Razor · 04-10-2009, 2:21 PM

If you game at 1366x768 then go for the 5850 a 5870 will be wasted at that res.

GMC79 · 04-10-2009, 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor

If you game at 1366x768 then go for the 5850 a 5870 will be wasted at that res.

Na wouldn't do that, never know when the TV may go and need replacing.

Have to be ready.

Razor · 04-10-2009, 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GMC79

Na wouldn't do that, never know when the TV may go and need replacing.

Have to be ready.

Go for the display upgrade first. Then get a new card unless you are desperate for DX11.

mrbobc · 04-10-2009, 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor

Dirt 2 is via a download from a supplied code when it is releases. I think the download is from steam.

Dirt 2 is out in December on the pc.

BTW what psu have you got? A good 500watt should be fine for a 5870.

ahh ok. just that every pic ive seen has dirt 2 plastered over the box, i assumed it came free with the card.

So with the max reported wattage under load being around 190w what would a good psu be to handle 2 iin cf?

Razor · 04-10-2009, 3:21 PM

I would say around 700watt. I run a 4870x2 on a 620watt corsair along with i7 @ 4.0Ghz and watercooling and its fine. However 2 x 5870's needs slightly more power than 4870X2. If the 5870X2 is anything like the 4870X2 it will use less power than two separate cards and you might be able to get away with a 620-650 watt psu.

wolvers · 04-10-2009, 9:26 PM

To backup what Razor is saying;

700 watt looks like an absolute minimum for 5870 crossfire.

Considering that one 5870 is on a par with a 4870X2 performance wise, if the 5870X2 does use less juice than 5870 crossfire then that would be close to double performance for very little extra power usage.

namuk · 05-10-2009, 12:04 AM

Why not just get a Beast Psu, then the Thing will not be Loaded up to it's Eye balls and Psu Running at 60% load i.e hot = Fan speed .. my 650w Psu's days are over along time ago..

Noggin1980 · 05-10-2009, 8:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Razor

As long as Jim can fix it for Nvidia to hurry up and release their next gen cards I will be happy.

anandtech says not this year (at least not in reasonable numbers) and I trust them far more than I trust faudzilla who have become unrealiable nvidea fanboys in the same way that semi accurate is for ati.

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The price is a valid concern. Fermi is a 40nm GPU just like RV870 but it has a 40% higher transistor count. Both are built at TSMC, so you can expect that Fermi will cost NVIDIA more to make than ATI's Radeon HD 5870.

Then timing is just as valid, because while Fermi currently exists on paper, it's not a product yet. Fermi is late. Clock speeds, configurations and price points have yet to be finalized. NVIDIA just recently got working chips back and it's going to be at least two months before I see the first samples. Widespread availability won't be until at least Q1 2010.

So that means people like anand getting samples at the beginning of December so realistically we arn't going to be getting them before Christmas certainly not in a new computer anyway. This decides it for me not to wait. Would be a shame not to have the new pc to enjoy the christmas flood of games with.

Noggin1980 · 05-10-2009, 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbobc

ahh ok. just that every pic ive seen has dirt 2 plastered over the box, i assumed it came free with the card.

So with the max reported wattage under load being around 190w what would a good psu be to handle 2 iin cf?

It was meant to come with the card but they didn't manage to finish the game on time, so you still get the free copy but have to wait for it.

eiren · 05-10-2009, 8:35 AM

I think it's likely to be March next year by the time all the options are out and we have a good idea what the best upgrade is.

JohnG · 05-10-2009, 8:38 AM

My 8800GTX should last me until then

Clunk · 05-10-2009, 9:29 AM

That's not good is it? ATI will have sold by the bucketload by that time and will most likely be releasing their midrange cards (56**?) series. So regardless of how strongly nVidia jump in at the high end, ATI will be ready to lower their top end prices to p155 them off and be ready to clean up in the budget/midrange segment with new cards.

D'oh.

wolvers · 05-10-2009, 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by namuk

Why not just get a Beast Psu, then the Thing will not be Loaded up to it's Eye balls and Psu Running at 60% load i.e hot = Fan speed .. my 650w Psu's days are over along time ago..

Yeah, spot on nam. That's why I was saying 700w as an absolute minimum for that 5870 crossfire set up. I'm only running a 650w but it's running at around 50% load. If I went dual gpu, I'd definitely upgrade it.

The other thing worth checking is what the psu can supply on it's dedicated 12v rail that supplies the gpu.

wolvers · 05-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Razor, get that 8800GTX installed!!

Patch Re-Enables PhysX When ATI Card is Present

**Chaos** · 05-10-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wolvers

Razor, get that 8800GTX installed!!

Patch Re-Enables PhysX When ATI Card is Present

That's good news if it proves stable and consistent.

Razor · 05-10-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wolvers

Razor, get that 8800GTX installed!!

Patch Re-Enables PhysX When ATI Card is Present

Yeah I read that last night on ocuk. To be honest I think I will wait till I get my next card mate. I also need a more powerful psu if I was to do that.

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