[liamt]

so you never get to wake her up?

the mrs did a few days work the other week. so i had friday to myself with Alex. played loads with him and he was looking tired at about 10am so i put him down for a nap. by 1pm(!!!!) he was still asleep so i went to wake him up. i cant believe the big smile i see for waking him up. i never smile at anyone who wakes me up!

lots of ribbing of the wife and 'man, what an easy day' didnt go down too well

[KyleS1]

Haha. Yeah we do occasionally wake her up, but not in the early days, she always told us when she was hungry as with breastfeeding, it was all on demand...day or night. It was really tough on my partner.
Lola doesn't always take too kindly to being woken up unless she has had a really long nap, then she is all smiles, as I would be if I got to have daytime naps

[MikeP1]

We have tried controlled crying a couple of times but Rory just gets more and more angry. He is just stubborn with it too and just screams and screams. We stopped after it was taking an hour for him to go off and showing no signs of reducing in time. Now I rock him for a bit and then sit in his room while he settles, it's working better than when I used to just pat him.

Rory is now 17 months and generally wakes after an hour, then again around 10:30. It is then very hit and miss if he wakes again before morning. The first two times he wakes up he is pretty good and going off again after 5mins and a sip of water.

I've worked from home pretty much all through the pregnancy and up until now. I have to start working at a clients site from August and I'm hating the idea of not being around him most of the time.

There is def nothing better than seeing them laugh and just the constant ways they change. Best thing we ever did by a long shot...

[Ickle Yoda1]

Well last night Jayden went to bed around 8, it was Friday so decided to have two jack Daniels and cokes in the house. Woke up at 7am with Jayden and actually feel a tiny bit rough, pathetic but not used to it anymore haha. Currently chilling with my boy and jake and the never land pirates!

[KyleS1]

I know that feeling dude. I only have to look at alcohol to get a hangover these days.

[Ickle Yoda1]

Two drinks, neither strong, got the fuzzy feelin this morn lol

[history12]

Controlled crying - its hard but it works. Beer and earplugs.

[liamt]

ours is still waking up 3 times a night at 11 months now. grrr. on holiday next week so going to try to get this sorted. doing my head in now... in the day he is great but at night... arghhhhhh

[KyleS1]

Did you try the controlled crying? I can't remember as it was so long ago I posted in the thread.

We did it for 3 nights and even just after the first night she was loads better. She is now sleeping 7pm to 6am every night. Although when mummy was away and I had to look after her on my own, she slept until 7 (only time she has ever slept that long ).

She is also now walking, so getting extra tired by bedtime.

[liamt]

im not sure. i leave it to the mrs

yeah, alex started walking 2 days before his 1st birthday. a month later he pretty much walks everywhere in the house. the most i have counted is 50 steps without landing on his ass or using something for support. i guess around 10m walking between lounge and kitchen.

he is still well behind me though as i was walking at 7months and crawling much sooner, but then again, in the 70s there was **** all to do and crawling would have meant polyester clothes on polyester carpet and i might have burst into flames i didnt have anywhere near as many toys either.

the last month he has massively improved in almost all respects. dancing to music (so funny him wiggling his bum around) talking (only says a few words but i understand some of them) and socialising with new people and him and the dog are best buddies now. he keeps walking up to her and saying 'eh o' (hello) and stroking her. he keeps trying to kiss her too then as she tries to lick him he pees himself laughing and runs off... very funny to watch.

im sure he is hyperactive lol, he is either tearing around the house or asleep - no middle ground! he does seem to fall asleep on me at around 7:30-8pm most nights now. if we could just get this sleep sorted we would all be much happier.

[KyleS1]

Originally Posted by liamt

im not sure. i leave it to the mrs

yeah, alex started walking 2 days before his 1st birthday. a month later he pretty much walks everywhere in the house. the most i have counted is 50 steps without landing on his ass or using something for support. i guess around 10m walking between lounge and kitchen.

he is still well behind me though as i was walking at 7months and crawling much sooner, but then again, in the 70s there was **** all to do and crawling would have meant polyester clothes on polyester carpet and i might have burst into flames i didnt have anywhere near as many toys either.

the last month he has massively improved in almost all respects. dancing to music (so funny him wiggling his bum around) talking (only says a few words but i understand some of them) and socialising with new people and him and the dog are best buddies now. he keeps walking up to her and saying 'eh o' (hello) and stroking her. he keeps trying to kiss her too then as she tries to lick him he pees himself laughing and runs off... very funny to watch.

im sure he is hyperactive lol, he is either tearing around the house or asleep - no middle ground! he does seem to fall asleep on me at around 7:30-8pm most nights now. if we could just get this sleep sorted we would all be much happier.

Sounds about the same as us. Lola is 1 in 4 days. She's been walking between us for about a month but never just off her own back, then last week she just let go of the sofa and walked across the room. We couldn't believe it. Was so lovely to see, and she got really excited that she did it, and started clapping herself and laughing. Really looking forward to all the new developments now.

As for the controlled crying, honestly it really works. I know some people say it didn't for them, and I thought Lola was going to be one of those children, but it worked, even from day 1. It's hard with the crying, but with a structured approach to the controlled crying, it is just brilliant. Everynight now we give her some milk, then take her up for a story. After the story, we give her a kiss, lay her down in her cot (she is always awake), say night night, and just walk out. She just rolls over and goes to sleep before I get a chance to get the baby monitor turned on. Having a video baby monitor really helped too as we could see what she was doing when we were doing the controlled crying (BT Digital 1000 I think it is called, and it is bloody brilliant). She has the same routine every night and goes to sleep every time. We used to have to put her down asleep, so had to walk around to get her off, or wait until she fell asleep and put her down. And that, I think is part of the problem. If they wake up after being fed or held to sleep, they expect the same when they wake (to either be feeding or being held), whereas if they fall asleep on their own, when they wake, they just put themselves back to sleep.
It literally made us not dread the nights, as we know (touch wood) that she will sleep through every night until at least 6am now.

Hope you get it sorted dude.

Oh and as for developing later, I was the same as you, I was fully walking at 9 months and the missus was by 11 months. Babies must just be lazier these days.

[liamt]

Originally Posted by KyleS1

Sounds about the same as us. Lola is 1 in 4 days. She's been walking between us for about a month but never just off her own back, then last week she just let go of the sofa and walked across the room. We couldn't believe it. Was so lovely to see, and she got really excited that she did it, and started clapping herself and laughing. Really looking forward to all the new developments now.

As for the controlled crying, honestly it really works. I know some people say it didn't for them, and I thought Lola was going to be one of those children, but it worked, even from day 1. It's hard with the crying, but with a structured approach to the controlled crying, it is just brilliant. Everynight now we give her some milk, then take her up for a story. After the story, we give her a kiss, lay her down in her cot (she is always awake), say night night, and just walk out. She just rolls over and goes to sleep before I get a chance to get the baby monitor turned on. Having a video baby monitor really helped too as we could see what she was doing when we were doing the controlled crying (BT Digital 1000 I think it is called, and it is bloody brilliant). She has the same routine every night and goes to sleep every time. We used to have to put her down asleep, so had to walk around to get her off, or wait until she fell asleep and put her down. And that, I think is part of the problem. If they wake up after being fed or held to sleep, they expect the same when they wake (to either be feeding or being held), whereas if they fall asleep on their own, when they wake, they just put themselves back to sleep.
It literally made us not dread the nights, as we know (touch wood) that she will sleep through every night until at least 6am now.

Hope you get it sorted dude.

Oh and as for developing later, I was the same as you, I was fully walking at 9 months and the missus was by 11 months. Babies must just be lazier these days.

cheers man.

yeah. they are so weird. alex wasnt interested in crawling for ages. then it suddenly happened - of all things he was determined to keep nicking the rubber corner pads i had on my B&W floortanders.

he had been cruising around the lounge holding onto couches etc for a while then suddenly one day he started walking. just a couple of steps to whatever he wanted to get. then a couple of weeks later he realised he could go further and now he does laps around the house. its wrecking my back as i have to stoop and due to a car crash about 7 years ago my back has never been right... oh well.

he does fall asleep on me most nights now after his last bottle. i think when we are off we will try again to get this sorted.

[GuitarGuy]

I baby sit my baby cousin a lot, he's a bit older than the majority in here but he's 2 and 4 months I think, he's got some funny things, when we say "I love you" he tries to say it back but it comes out "iyawoooo" hehe and he loves mandarins, when he asks for them he says "mandamina" haha......
So much fun cuz he's at the age where he likes to be a bit more rough and tumble so I get to wrestle (gently of corse) with him while my aunt and uncle just sit back and watch tv or go out if they still have the energy! Bathed him and put him to bed the other night he laughs so hard when I wash the soap of with a water pistol (gentle of course never know some people might read it the wrong way) such a sweet little guy though! Jumps off his dad to me whenever I go round to visit

[KyleS1]

Originally Posted by liamt

cheers man.

yeah. they are so weird. alex wasnt interested in crawling for ages. then it suddenly happened - of all things he was determined to keep nicking the rubber corner pads i had on my B&W floortanders.

he had been cruising around the lounge holding onto couches etc for a while then suddenly one day he started walking. just a couple of steps to whatever he wanted to get. then a couple of weeks later he realised he could go further and now he does laps around the house. its wrecking my back as i have to stoop and due to a car crash about 7 years ago my back has never been right... oh well.

he does fall asleep on me most nights now after his last bottle. i think when we are off we will try again to get this sorted.

Same with Lola. She used to get up on all 4 but not get anywhere. Then one day she was on the sofa and just hoofed it to the end to get the remote. That was day 1 of the crawling and she didn't stop after that.
Her walking was much the same, she would take a few steps between me and mummy when we encouraged her, but would walk all around the house as long as she had something to hold on to, then the other day when she took her first solo steps (without being forced by us), she went from 4 up to about 15/20 within 5 mins. She still falls on her bum a lot, but has only been doing it unaided for a few days. She also appears to only like to walk when she is at home. She wouldn't "perform" for the people who look after her at nursery.
But yeah, it certainly is harsh on your back, and I haven't been in a car crash!

The research we did all said what I mentioned above about them falling asleep on the bottle, so that is the first thing we changed, and gave her a proper awake bed time routine. She now knows when we go into her nursery and read a book, it is bedtime.
It's hard to leave them crying, but sooo worth it. I think we waited 4 mins, then go in lay her back down, say night and go out, then 8 mins, repeat steps, then 16 mins etc. She never made it to the end of the 16 minute stage before lying down and going to sleep.

[liamt]

cheers Kyle - we will definitely go for that. Mrs brought little man into work yesterday and he walked a bit and did his usual waving and trying to kiss the totty at work. i have no question in which way his sexuality will go he is already a ladies man! he is a very cute boy too... he could well end up a right Casanova when he grows up!

[KyleS1]

Haha, good lad! Having a daughter, I'm petrified for when she starts wanting boyfriends etc!

[liamt]

keep her away from mine then.... else we will be grand parents in no time

[KyleS1]

Haha
I need to work on being scary to get rid of the little tikes!

[liamt]

been trying controlled crying for a week now and its still 2 or 3 wakes a night. arghhhh. little sod stayed over at in-laws at weekend and slept through, so we hoped he would do the same.

he is teething again now though so that might be in. seems to be at the back so i guess more painful (bigger teeth?) so maybe that is waking him up.

how long did it take you Kyle?

[KyleS1]

Sorry to hear that Liam. It could well be bad timing as the teething could be waking him up.

It took us 2 days. First day she cried for about 25 mins (in between going in and laying her back down etc), second night was asleep within 5 mins. She then had one outburst where she cried for 40 mins at 3am, but other than that, she sleeps from 7-7 every night now.

Are you following a certain method and are you doing it in the middle of the night too?

Now we just take her to her room, read her a story, give her a teddy and lay her down (awake), say "night night", walk out and turn the light off. She is usually asleep by the time I turn the baby monitor on.

[liamt]

yup. full on now.

doesnt get bottles any more - drinks a bit of milk from a cup at night. then goes to bed and use the method to get him to sleep. he goes off pretty quickly now. he isnt interested in being read to, for some reason.

he just keeps waking up in the night and the mrs does the assisted crying thing. he goes off quite quickly but obviously would be better if he just slept through. the night before last he just wouldnt settle at all. mrs was up for over an hour tying to get him back down with the increased intervals. i think he was just in a lot of pain though but she needed my help to get some calpol down him.

[KyleS1]

How frustrating. Maybe it will pass when his teeth pop through? Doesn't help now though.
Does he show signs of being uncomfortable before bed with this teeth? Could try giving him the calpol then? Lola takes hers from a syringe, which I think she thinks is some kind of treat as when she was younger she had reflux and had two lots of meds three times a day from a syringe, so luckily for us, when she sees it, she rushes over, mouth open waiting for it. Plus it avoids spillages from a spoon.
Anyway, I digress. I guess the best thing to do is to just persevere. I know for some people it has taken a week or two, some a couple of days. Of course, there is always the ones that it doesn't work for at all. Is he calmed by you being in the room? My cousins baby would happily go off to sleep if he was in the room. It also had to be him, rather than her, as he knew she had the milk (boobies), so needed to know there was no chance of getting any at night.
Is he eating enough? Could he be waking due to hunger? Lola eats 3 meals a day, but she still has 180ml milk before bed.
I guess it's impossible to say if its due to his teething. Maybe he will be better once they have popped through.
Good luck, it's not easy.

[Ickle Yoda1]

My son was sleeping generally well, only up maybe once through the night. He is teething now and goes through spells of waking up more with that.

We celebrated his first birthday yesterday and I would say majority of the time he sleeps from about 9:00 til 8am. Maybe up once for a feed then back to sleep.

Do many of your kids have a nap during the day? My son tends to get up at 8 and sleep again at 11am for an hour or two most days

[Geezer69]

My soon to be three year old boy still has a little nap most days. Never longer than an hour and not after three o'clock. He has just gone up to pre-school and is starting to knock the afternoon sleep on the head, now that he is a "big boy!"

[liamt]

Originally Posted by KyleS1

How frustrating. Maybe it will pass when his teeth pop through? Doesn't help now though.
Does he show signs of being uncomfortable before bed with this teeth? Could try giving him the calpol then? Lola takes hers from a syringe, which I think she thinks is some kind of treat as when she was younger she had reflux and had two lots of meds three times a day from a syringe, so luckily for us, when she sees it, she rushes over, mouth open waiting for it. Plus it avoids spillages from a spoon.
Anyway, I digress. I guess the best thing to do is to just persevere. I know for some people it has taken a week or two, some a couple of days. Of course, there is always the ones that it doesn't work for at all. Is he calmed by you being in the room? My cousins baby would happily go off to sleep if he was in the room. It also had to be him, rather than her, as he knew she had the milk (boobies), so needed to know there was no chance of getting any at night.
Is he eating enough? Could he be waking due to hunger? Lola eats 3 meals a day, but she still has 180ml milk before bed.
I guess it's impossible to say if its due to his teething. Maybe he will be better once they have popped through.
Good luck, it's not easy.

yeah, he has calpol before bed at the minute. so that helps him. he used to have a bottle on my knee at night and i can see he misses that now. he has 2 weetabix before bed these days and east most of it. he eats pretty well. weetabix (1) for breakfast. some finger food for dinner like cheese on toast or tuna sarnie cut into strips. then a proper tea with us. then 1.5 weetabix for supper. we call him Nibbler (from futurama) as he has a black hole for a stomach!

we did have a syringe. not sure where it went. probably easier than a spoon. he has been fine for the last few months though so we hadnt given him any calpol in ages.

he is almost always walking around causing mahyem so we guessed it would knacker him out

Ickle Yoda1 - yeah, he has a nap before or after his dinner. want to swap? lol

[emmiller]

Ashton and Parsons Infants Powders - 20 Powders - Boots

try this for teething, it worked for both our kids!

martin

[liamt]

cheers martin. i will look into this.

[KyleS1]

Originally Posted by emmiller

Ashton and Parsons Infants Powders - 20 Powders - Boots

try this for teething, it worked for both our kids!

martin

We tried some of these style teething remedies and it gave Lola the farts. Was hilarious, but thought it must be giving her some kind of stomach ache so stopped, and just give her calpol if teething.
We think we are due some more, her last two came through over 2 months ago. It looks like there is a bunch waiting to pop, so looking for to that!

Originally Posted by liamt

yeah, he has calpol before bed at the minute. so that helps him. he used to have a bottle on my knee at night and i can see he misses that now. he has 2 weetabix before bed these days and east most of it. he eats pretty well. weetabix (1) for breakfast. some finger food for dinner like cheese on toast or tuna sarnie cut into strips. then a proper tea with us. then 1.5 weetabix for supper. we call him Nibbler (from futurama) as he has a black hole for a stomach!

we did have a syringe. not sure where it went. probably easier than a spoon. he has been fine for the last few months though so we hadnt given him any calpol in ages.

he is almost always walking around causing mahyem so we guessed it would knacker him out

Ickle Yoda1 - yeah, he has a nap before or after his dinner. want to swap? lol

Blimey, tea and supper! Maybe with all those meals his body is just used to eating every x hours, so wakes up for more?

Yeah we only give calpol to her if she is teething or has a cold to help keep her nose from being blocked. The syringe defo helps though.

Out of curiosity, why did you stop the evening milk?

Originally Posted by Ickle Yoda1

My son was sleeping generally well, only up maybe once through the night. He is teething now and goes through spells of waking up more with that.

We celebrated his first birthday yesterday and I would say majority of the time he sleeps from about 9:00 til 8am. Maybe up once for a feed then back to sleep.

Do many of your kids have a nap during the day? My son tends to get up at 8 and sleep again at 11am for an hour or two most days

Lola has a morning and afternoon nap. If at home she wakes around 6:30/7 then is in bed again for a nap around 9/9:30 for up to 1.5 hours, then will nap again in the afternoon around 2 for an hour or so. She is literally non stop though, so knackers herself out a lot.

[liamt]

the mrs says she was told to stop the bottle not the milk before bed. he struggles to neck a bottle when its a baby cup, unlike how he could easily do it with a bottle. apparently its to stop them needing a bottle?! sounds a bit weird to me.

we only substituted milk for weetabix as he isnt drinking much milk now due to the bottle. and wife's parents told her that her brother needed weetabix before bed.

its odd as he isnt overweight at all and is following the grow curve thing really well. he is constantly on the go climbing up stuff, walking, running etc. i hoped it would knacker him out.

i will avoid the tincture things then. calpol works well enough.

3.5 hours sleep in the day? lucky git!

sometimes on fridays, i work a 4 day week, i can tire him out playing but the wife does jobs etc in the daytime usually so she doesnt play as much with him.

[neilios]

My 18 month old had a 2 week spell in our new house where she slept thru,she now back to waking 1-4 times a night again,this has been going on since birth,so your not on your own liam...We're both knackered,baby no2 is due in jan,praying for a sleeper...