[aasimc]

In the past (back in my dayyy), there wasn't much chance of a kid pulling a knife out during a fight. Nowadays, you don't know what these kids are gonna do! And over the smallest things.

[Trollslayer]

Good training can provide discipline and a sense of responsibility as well as self confidence.

[LJD]

Having said that..The confident kid might be the victim of a Gang who as a collective want to "have a go"

This country has gone to the dogs with regards to bullies, crime and lack of REAL parents , rather than dumb chav families with their little "waynes" and "Guchee Dolcha Gubannana s"

[kevykat]

Originally Posted by LJD

Having said that..The confident kid might be the victim of a Gang who as a collective want to "have a go"

This country has gone to the dogs with regards to bullies, crime and lack of REAL parents , rather than dumb chav families with their little "waynes" and "Guchee Dolcha Gubannana s"

Agree discipline is the problem parents these days have no idea, and some are as bad as there kids.

[RobM]

Originally Posted by LJD

Having said that..The confident kid might be the victim of a Gang who as a collective want to "have a go"

This country has gone to the dogs with regards to bullies, crime and lack of REAL parents , rather than dumb chav families with their little "waynes" and "Guchee Dolcha Gubannana s"

There is a difference between confidence in yourself and cockiness, with cockiness being the thing that attracts unwanted attention.

But I agree with your point about parents, discipline and respect starts and ends at home, IMO.

[aasimc]

Originally Posted by RobM

There is a difference between confidence in yourself and cockiness, with cockiness being the thing that attracts unwanted attention.

But I agree with your point about parents, discipline and respect starts and ends at home, IMO.

Some expect the schools and teachers (even though they aren't allowed to lay a finger on child/teenagers) do more, but totally agree with u, respect and discipline begin at home from a early age. If they respect their parents, how are they going to respect others.

[AV Happy]

I really hope you have things sorted out and the trouble has gone away, Bullying is terrible for the child but its just as upsetting fro the parent ( i know i've been there on both counts ) My eldest was been picked on when he was 6 by a 'troubled' boy who was 2 years older than him, fortunately the boy moved home and school a couple of months after it started so the problem went away, however in the mean time we had started him in a defensive martial art to give him confidence and it has done him the world of good, he is now 12 and has not had another minutes trouble from anyone. As robM says its all about confidence not cockiness, my son knows that if anyone starts on him he can defend himself but he never talks about his achievements with his martial art and only his close friends know what he is capable of.
Sorry went off on a tangent although i dont condone violence i think what happened with your boy will solve the issues and i really hope for both your sake and your sons that it its over. there is nothing worse than lying awake at night worrying about what might happen.

[GuitarGuy]

I've always been one of the "easy target" types, I used to get a lot of random stuff from this one lad from when I joined a school in year 3 till I was twelve. I still remember it clearly, it was the day before the Christmas holidays and he was saying he'd get everyone to be really nasty to anyone who spoke to me over the holidays, and stupid things like that, so I walked up to him and asked why he was doing it, he said he didn't like stupid fat idiots, gave me a push. I said back off, he pushed me again, I repeated calmly back off. He did it again, and I said louder and clearer, stop right now and back off (I was against a wall now). He swung I ducked, he punched the wall, I uppercut into his jaw, one kick to the back of the knees and he was down and out. I was told off badly at first but when I explained my story, the whole class got asked about it, the bully made up some story but everyone took my side. The bully got expelled and I really enjoyed the last year of primary school . The bullies don't get to win, never let them. You stand up for yourself and everyone will stand with you. More recent example, some dweeb a couple years below me has taken it upon himself to steal my stuff and hide it all over school, spread rumours behind my back, tried to split me and my girlfriend up, wreck my alevel project, physically and verbally attack me ..... The list goes on. I sat and developed a highly elaborate scheme to get payback once and for all, I got a wheelbarrow from the dt store cupboard, filled it with glue, got one of my mates to spin him round on a swivel chair to get him dizzy, dropped him in the glue, took him for a ride to a pile of feathers. Tossed him into it. He looked like a big balding chicken. He ran to the toilets to clean himself up, I left a bucket of water on the door so when he went in he got drenched. Everyone laughed so hard at him because he deserved it. The day after my revenge he came to me and apologised for everything he'd done and that was that. He goes to the same pub as me these days. Life goes on.

[shodan]

A while ago my boy (5 years old) was upset about school for a while and eventually we got to the bottom of it. He felt like he was being bullied by some boys in his class.
I spent a lot of time talking with him about it to make sure he was really being bullied and not just misreading or misunderstanding other boys behaviour.
Then I spent more time trying to help him find ways of dealing with it.
Then I spent more time telling his teacher about it, who said it wasn't happening. Then I spoke with one of the parents of the main problem child. All this took over a month.
Nothing seemed to work. By this time I was at the stage where I was telling my boy that if people were trying to hit him etc then he should shout at them to leave him alone and push them away hard with both hands.
Nothing worked.
I spoke to his teacher again and told him a little white lie.
I told him that I had told Jack that if anyone hit him or kicked him then he has to punch them in the face as hard as he can, and he won't be in trouble with me.
His teacher said "oh dear I don't think that's very good" and I replied "then sort it out because I've spent over a month trying to help my boy, including asking the school for help and talking to the other kids parents and nothing has been done".
Jack came home that day, said there has been a big talk about it in school and the problem has stopped. I asked him yesterday about it (about 3 months later) and he said its completely stopped.