Español Français Deutsch Italiano Nederlands Svenska Dansk Japanese Chinese (Simplified) Russian
 
AVForums.com twitter AVForums is a member of CEDIA. THX certified reviewer.  Click for more information. AVForums reviewers are ISF Certified.  Click for more information.
 
Free electronics advice and information  
3.5 million visitors each month


Forums Register Blogs Information Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   AVForums.com > Video Electronics > TVs > OLED and FLCD TVs

Latest AVForums Movie Reviews
Sherlock Holmes Blu-ray ReviewClash Of The Titans - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack CD ReviewZombieland Blu-ray ReviewLast King of Scotland, The Blu-ray ReviewAfrican Queen, The Blu-ray Review
Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant Blu-ray ReviewToy Story Blu-ray ReviewClash Of The Titans Blu-ray ReviewVengeance Blu-ray ReviewHellboy Animated: Sword Of Storms/Blood and Iron Blu-ray Review

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What to replace my ageing Sony with ?? JimM AV Amplifiers and Receivers 3 06-05-2008 7:46 PM
new Sony OLED on display in NYC AbbyW OLED and FLCD TVs 1 05-03-2008 4:09 PM
Sony OLED closes in on LCD TV The News Bot Home Cinema and Tech News 0 14-02-2007 10:40 PM
Ageing Sony VPL10HT uses? slingshot Projectors 1 28-10-2006 12:25 PM
Will Ruby replace my ageing Sony VPL VW10HT?? dealmaker Projectors 10 03-03-2006 10:21 PM

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-05-2008, 3:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 226
Thanks: Gave 16, Got 13
Exclamation Sony OLED TV suffers from premature ageing

Citing research firm DisplaySearch, EE Times says the TV's active matrix OLED (AMOLED) implementation has a much shorter lifespan than what Sony quotes in its specifications: allegedly only 5,000 hours for white colors and 17,000 hours for "typical video image." Worse yet, EE Times adds that the panel is victim to "differential aging," which causes blue, red, and green luminances to shrink by 12%, 7%, and 8%, respectively, after just 1,000 hours-that's about a month and a half of continuous use.

Quote:
The sub-pixel architecture includes two TFTs and two capacitors. The pixel architecture does not use a common support layer, as the materials and thickness are different. The micro cavity structure results in multiple reflection interference. The brightness is severely reduced in high-ambient conditions. The black levels are less than 0.01 cd/m, lower than any other display (PDP or LCD) currently on the market. The top emission design includes a color filter and a circular polarizer. The cathode is semi transparent. The design includes a unique approach to cooling the OLED.

So all you have to do is replace it every few months and you're good to go. What's the problem here? ;-)
iaTa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2008, 8:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 190
Thanks: Gave 11, Got 17
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

Way to go for OLED technology, isn`t really surprising to hear problems of first commercial sample.
novcze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2008, 12:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: London
Posts: 2,394
Thanks: Gave 185, Got 426
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

I'm sure it'll be covered by warranty.
__________________
PC: Better than yours A/V: Definitely better than yours
onkeh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2008, 10:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
Moderator
 
KUBBY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 1,528
Thanks: Gave 89, Got 236
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

Call me cynical,but isnt this another case of that manufacturer rushing out an unfinished product before anyone else does ?


KH
__________________
Samsung LE46A786/Onkyo 605/Wharfedale Evo2-20/9CS /Celestion F20/Kef PSW2010/Sky HD/OPPO BDP83
------------------------------------------------------
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
------------------------------------------------------
www.avforums.com/forums/view_rules.htm ** ********** DON'T TRADE BY PM ************
KUBBY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2008, 3:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
JJTye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Willesden Green, London
Posts: 78
Thanks: Gave 11, Got 5
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

Quote:
Originally Posted by KH1096 View Post
Call me cynical,but isnt this another case of that manufacturer rushing out an unfinished product before anyone else does ?


KH
I always felt that no matter how wonderful the contrast ratio, colour brilliance and viewing angles on OLED are, the technology will always be hampered by its longevity. Since the blue compound wears first, then the green, who really wants to get a telly that fades from full colour, to yellow then to red?

And I think that OLED is doomed for computer displays, since computers display a lot of static information (web browser frames, windows icons, wallpaper backgrounds etc) which will really take its toll on the OLED panel.
JJTye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-05-2008, 11:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 103
Thanks: Gave 43, Got 1
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

It's Sony: I'm hardly surpirised.
groovemeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2008, 2:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
Phantoma
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

This is why I intend to ignore the first two generation releases of this tech onto the public arena. If OLED is released to us in 2009/2010 then I wouldn't buy one until the 2012/2013 models.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2008, 5:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
Member
 
JJTye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Willesden Green, London
Posts: 78
Thanks: Gave 11, Got 5
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

Im curious as to see if OLED screens will come with the same anti-burn functions as Plasma (scrolling ramp, all white, pixel shift etc)
__________________
Samsung LE46M87BDX LCD TV, Samsung P42Q87 Plasma (in bedroom), Humax PVR-9200T Freeview recorder, Toshiba SD210E DVD player

'May the force be with the flattest TVs!' Jason.
JJTye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-06-2008, 5:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
Ex Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Flintshire
Posts: 1,127
Thanks: Gave 63, Got 33
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJTye View Post
Im curious as to see if OLED screens will come with the same anti-burn functions as Plasma (scrolling ramp, all white, pixel shift etc)
unless you own a panasonic Vierra- I do and was rather unimpressed at the amount of adjustments available

Lawrenso
lawrenso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-06-2008, 11:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
Prominent Member
 
Nielo TM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LDN
Posts: 3,401
Thanks: Gave 50, Got 338
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature aging

give it time

I mean, look how long it to took to prefect CRT, PDP and LCD
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>| HDTV Buyer's Guide |<
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Last edited by Nielo TM; 22-06-2008 at 11:47 PM.
Nielo TM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-06-2008, 11:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 105
Thanks: Gave 3, Got 4
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature ageing

Predictable to be fair. New technology = new problems, simple.

RoEy
RoEy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2008, 12:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
P-P-S-S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
Posts: 1,283
Thanks: Gave 206, Got 38
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature ageing

I cant believe that companies like Sony are trying to push new technology into the market!! People still havent got the grasp of LCD and Plasma. How many choices does one have to have?
__________________
Tosh37Z3030D,Onkyo605,B&W DM601 fronts,B&W LCR60S3,Wharfdale WH2 rear,BK XLS200,Marantz CD5001,Technics MD, iMac 2.8Ghz 24",MacMini 2.26Ghz,iPhone 3G,iPOD nano 3g,TimeCapsule 500Gb,SKY HD,Sony DCR-PC109E,PS3 80Gb,PSP slim,QED&IXOS,Nikon D60 AF-S DX 18-55 VR & 55-200 VR PSN: tokyoplastic
P-P-S-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2008, 10:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 596
Thanks: Gave 35, Got 67
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature ageing

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-P-S-S View Post
I cant believe that companies like Sony are trying to push new technology into the market!! People still havent got the grasp of LCD and Plasma. How many choices does one have to have?
Says who - given you'd struggle to buy a CRT, that would suggest that people are more than comfortable. Are you suggesting that companies should stop innovating
nehalem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 9:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
Veteran Member
 
NicolasB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Emily's Shop
Posts: 5,311
Thanks: Gave 48, Got 539
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature ageing

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-P-S-S View Post
I cant believe that companies like Sony are trying to push new technology into the market!! People still havent got the grasp of LCD and Plasma. How many choices does one have to have?
Given that neither LCD nor plasma has yet achieved the image quality that CRT used to have, the technology is (arguably) evolving backwards. I hope they continue to introduce new tech until we at least get back to where we were a few years ago. Then they can stop.
__________________
Werner Heisenberg is stopped for speeding.
POLICEMAN: "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"
HEISENBERG: "No, but I know exactly where I was."
NicolasB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 7:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
Prominent Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coventry
Posts: 4,371
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: Gave 130, Got 290
Re: Sony OLED TV suffers from premature ageing

Quote:
Originally Posted by NicolasB View Post
Given that neither LCD nor plasma has yet achieved the image quality that CRT used to have
Oh please
__________________
Relysis 40 inch LCD : Harman Kardon AVR 630 : Sky+ 250 SDI
MCPC (Silverstone case, IMON, Tosh HDDVD-ROM, E2200@2.5GHz, 4670 ultimate, 3GB, 80GB 2.5" drive, Sweetspot SDI card,Happauge HVR4000, Win 7 Enterprise)
Kef XQ5/XQ2C/Q2DS/Q8S : Cyrus aca7.5, PSXR, CD6 : Quad 303 x 3
SeanT is offline   Reply With Quote



Bookmarks

Tags
ageing, oled, premature, sony, suffers
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT. The time now is 9:34 AM.


AVForums
Optimised for Firefox.
RSS Feed

AVForums.com is owned and operated by M2N Limited.
Copyright © 2000-2010 M2N E. & O. E.
Global Gold
Web Hosting