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2016 until OLED becomes as mainstream as todays LCD's?

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Old 09-11-2009, 12:41 AM   #1
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2016 until OLED becomes as mainstream as todays LCD's?

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LG has reaffirmed its OLED TV roadmap, but warned that the price of tellies based on the technology won’t match those of LCDs for at least seven more years.

The company first outlined its OLED TV roadmap back in April 2008, when it promised to have 32in models in volume production by 2011.

LG still seems keen to keeping to this promise. At last week’s FPD tech fair in Japan, it said it will produce 30in and larger OLED panels throughout 2011.

LG will also launch a 15in OLED TV this year – probably as a high-end rival to Sony’s 11in Xel-1 – and then pump out 20in and larger OLED panels during 2010.

Although the firm plans to extend production to 40in and larger OLED screens in 2012, Won Kim, LG display's OLED Sales and Marketing VP, told website Tech-On that they will still be “fairly expensive”.

Kim forecast that LG's OLED TVs won’t cost less than LCD screens until 2016.

He said that price reductions will come as the result of a 20-30 per cent drop in material costs, achieved through switching to more cost-effective OLED panel production methods.
LG OLED TV roadmap forecasts 40-inchers for 2012 • Register Hardware

also

OLED TV Waits in the Wings - Gadgetwise Blog - NYTimes.com
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Old 09-11-2009, 9:08 AM   #2
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Re: 2016 until OLED becomes as mainstream as todays LCD's?

yea right. ******** marketing clap trap. Stop buying their LCD tvs and the price of OLED wont remain high. They are like newspapers and other media feeding the less intelligent with halve truths, smokescreens and excuses in an attempt to remain in control.

If LG really want to be seen as number 1 I have a simple suggestion. Push OLED to market right under your competitors noses for a fair price they cant hope to match, then sit back watching them unable to follow as you corner the market.

EDIT : or maybe thats what theyre upto. Smoke and mirrors, lull the competition into a false security, ie another 7yrs and bam have it out next year, hmm doubt they are that smart?

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Old 09-11-2009, 4:28 PM   #3
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Re: 2016 until OLED becomes as mainstream as todays LCD's?

Maybe not? I have read an item in Engineer magazine 09/11/2009 about a group of boffins at Hull Uni who are developing a different way to produce OLED screens cheaply for phones , tv and lighting. The company is called Polar OLED . I cant see the item on line to copy here but its in the magazine at £3.70.
Just found this...http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Art...r-displays.htm

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Old 10-11-2009, 5:59 PM   #4
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Re: 2016 until OLED becomes as mainstream as todays LCD's?

Well I won't profess to having the answer to the question directly but we at Polar OLED are certainly trying to get there. You can find our website at www.polaroled.com

We now have several article publicising our technology, most notably Technology Review (Technology Review: Liquid Crystals that Light Up)

It's true that there exists an element of manufacturers trying to protect their investment into LCD production facilities, which has been considerable - why cannibalise their own market by introducing technology that renders LCD 'less favourable' (note, it will still have some desirable qualities as a technology) - however, there remain some issues with OLEDs, namely their production costs and lifetime performances. But most major manufacturers are investing in OLED display technologies - Sharp are somewhat reluctant at the moment.

I, for one, am certainly hoping that by bringing production costs down we can make what is a technically superior technology available to main stream consumers in the next 3-5 years, and the efficiency in terms of brightness and power consumption from OLEDs is certainly a step in the right direction from an 'eco' standpoint.

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Old 11-11-2009, 11:19 PM   #5
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Re: 2016 until OLED becomes as mainstream as todays LCD's?

LG are crap anyway, cornering the market with marketing crap is there way of getting more sales, well good on them.
Sony has had an OLED, look how far it got them, but I doubt that the R & D they did will wait for a 2016 mass wide release...
As for PolarOLED's post, I hope all goes well and we see some future for your company and us Panel owners for something new and unique.
People citing Plasma is dead and LCD is here to stay, hmm OLED is just around the corner and so is other tech, shame on you LG for talking the, "Gotta get it now cause you will be waiting for newer tech for way too long" BS...
Good way to mislead the public, just like Samsung did with their OLED Panels, seems that no manufacturer has scruples when it comes to marketing...


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Old 28-11-2009, 2:22 PM   #6
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Hi,
I don't think LG are involved in OLED manufacturing at the moment - not sure about the 15 inch though.
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Old 03-12-2009, 1:58 AM   #7
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I'm a new member on avforums and is seeking answer to the availability of oled computer monitors. I'm excited to learn that many here are active researchers/developers/proponents of oled techology. As much as I want to believe that oled monitors are just around the corner, all articles/threads I've read so far on the web indicate that it isn't exactlly the case. Without giving too much away, can someone please tell me if there is a chance of a 30-inch, 1600p, oled monitor being available in the first half of 2010?

Thanks!
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Old 03-12-2009, 1:53 PM   #8
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I don't think OLED costs will fall to current LCD levels for a long time - even 2016 may be optimistic. Consider that LCDs were discovered in the late 60s, patented in the early 70s and it took until about 2005 for the costs to become realistic for the majority (with good quality screens). Now consider that creating the materials for OLEDs and creating a process for manufacture are two completely different things - the materials sets from UDC, Sumation/CDT, Kodak and Merck will have to recoup the costs of development (nearly 20 years in CDT's case) and then there's the licencing costs for device designs and investments in facilities, equipment and projects to understand how to use the equipment to repeatably produce a high yielding process.

The Sony TV was ahead of it's time and basically a tech demo from Sony to show it could still innovate. The fact that two years later the first competitor is only just about to launch shows the problems inherent in scaling up to medium sizes.

I look forward to seeing how Polar OLED materials pan out, but I can't help but think that their approach is always going to result in low conductivity and poor efficiencies as a result.
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Old 18-01-2010, 4:19 AM   #9
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Oh dear,
so far I have had very bad experience with oled.
I have several devices with them, a media player (colour) 2 mp3 players and a minidisk and all are failing after very few hours usage, the colour media player is half as bright as it was new and has some very bad "screen burn" where static graphics have damaged the elements more in some places than others. Personally I would say give oled a wide birth until the technology improves

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Old 18-01-2010, 5:21 PM   #10
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This article gives some interesting information about Samsung and LG's OLED manufacturing capacities at present and where they might be headed.

The case against a 10" AMOLED Apple tablet

LG saying they might produce 30" OLED TVs in 2012

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/mar...pply-expected/

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Old 29-01-2010, 10:19 AM   #11
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This article gives some interesting information about Samsung and LG's OLED manufacturing capacities at present and where they might be headed.

The case against a 10" AMOLED Apple tablet

LG saying they might produce 30" OLED TVs in 2012

LG Display CEO: No Panel Oversupply Expected In 2010 - FOXBusiness.com
thanks for your links. It looks like LG, along with other manufacturers, are targeting the home theatre market more so than they're at the computer markets.
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Another article OLED Panels: The Way to Larger Screens -- Nikkei Electronics Asia -- February 2010 - Tech-On!

"LG Display announced it would volume-produce 20-inch class large-size OLED panels in 2010, 30-inch class in 2011, and 40-inch class in 2012. Vice President Won Kim, in charge of OLED Sales & Marketing at the firm, is confident: "They may be expensive, but it will be possible to buy a 40-inch class OLED TV in 2012."
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Another article OLED Panels: The Way to Larger Screens -- Nikkei Electronics Asia -- February 2010 - Tech-On!

"LG Display announced it would volume-produce 20-inch class large-size OLED panels in 2010, 30-inch class in 2011, and 40-inch class in 2012. Vice President Won Kim, in charge of OLED Sales & Marketing at the firm, is confident: "They may be expensive, but it will be possible to buy a 40-inch class OLED TV in 2012."
I've already had a meeting with LG and can confirm that we will see a 15" OLED by the end of this year and a 40" by the end of 2011.

Short of saying that I've seen it, I can say that this is 100% correct and is not bull.
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I've already had a meeting with LG and can confirm that we will see a 15" OLED by the end of this year and a 40" by the end of 2011.

Short of saying that I've seen it, I can say that this is 100% correct and is not bull.
Thats good news as someone needs to get the ball rolling so others will follow. Its gone all stagnant lately, i honestly thought 2 years ago that by 2010/11 there would be alot more OLED screens and development than there has been.
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Old 27-07-2011, 11:18 AM   #15
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Any news on this? i might be living in a box, but i havent heard about any OLED screens half this size
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