not sure if i can post it in here or not, joined up to get a review on a plasma... but in a email i had to day this shop is offering £10 off all wii hardware and games including consolese

on the checkout page enter "WiiPromo" in the Gift Certificate box to claim

http://www.rjlectronics.co.uk/depart...pe/department/

[waqaszaib]

it looks like a new business just set up as in the contact us details it says vat number pending which i would have thought all business to have, a bit suspicious.

Sorry you’re wrong! you only need to register for vat in the uk if your turnover is over £54,000 or you can register under this limit as most uk traders do, placing "vat number pending" like so many uk companies do while they wait for a vat number is not suspicious but common practise! It allows the trader to claim and charge vat while the application is being process there is a time frame of 2-18 weeks on this depending on what county the business is based.

I know this as an I am an accountant well in training at least!

[Ian J]

It is a new business as RJLectronics Ltd was incorporated just four months ago - around the same time as the domain name was purchased.

My advice is always that it's better to pay a little more to an established trader as it lessens the risk of losing money if the business fails and with the huge amount of businesses that fail in the first year I personally don't think it's a risk worth taking.

[spaceman763]

Originally Posted by dietcokefan

Sorry you’re wrong! you only need to register for vat in the uk if your turnover is over £54,000 or you can register under this limit as most uk traders do, placing "vat number pending"
I know this as an I am an accountant well in training at least!

I'm an ACA in training ... just came on the forums after revising the VAT chapter! The turnover is actually £61,000 before having to compulsory register for VAT (2006/2007 rates).

Also a company would only voluntarily register if they were

a) to reclaim VAT (unlikely)

or

b) hide their size to make them seem more reputable then they actually are!!! (more likely reason)

Regards

[Powermond]

I'd also like to point out the terrible grammar on their website.

Hi

I ordered and paid for a game from RJLectronics a week ago, the next day I checked RJLectronics Web site and it informed the game was shipped. One week on and still no game, I emailed them last night and so far no reply.....

Still no sign of the game :-( 15-07-07

But paid for with pay pall via credit card so I should get my cash back, this shop also has a EBAY shop....

[drewmullet]

I'm having the exact same problem with rjlectronics...ordered a Wii bundle over 3 weeks ago. The admin replied to my first few emails, saying they were expecting stock etc etc...then the order status was set to Shipped on Thursday the week before last, but the delivery company (City Link) hasn't received anything...I've emailed 3 or 4 times in the last week or so and no replies Plus I can't find a phone number for them anywhere...

Also if you look at the feedback rating on eBay, the last couple of entries are negative...hope we're not getting scammed!!

[chrisjoanne]

I too made a recent order with them and have searched the net for a telephone number as they won't reply to emails.

Waited around 3 weeks now for 2 DS games - don't think I'll be getting them now. Can't find a telephone number but did find this...

The info I have found is that the companies address is also the same as "Keltec Imaging Ltd".

Companies house have this data:

http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/KELTE...G+LIMITED.aspx

If anyone has the telephone number for them please post.

I also thought you could search for a local company. ie a company who trade from Richmond Road too.....and ask them if RJLectronics are still trading from the address.

Chris

[chrisjoanne]

Oh dear.....I've just found this link which I believe will confirm we got scammed:

http://community.dcmag.co.uk/forums/thread/160166.aspx

I think "Kelteccameras.co.uk" (which has the same Post Code address as RJLectronics), scammed a few people is 2005.

Chris

[chrisjoanne]

Bit more information about "Keltec Cameras" which will also gives us a little more information about RJlectronics.


The company is owned by Mr John Murphy who I assume owns RJlectronics.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...=uk&lr=lang_en

Chris

[drewmullet]

Thanks for the info chrisjoanne.

I just had the PayPal claim I raised decided in my favour, but - surprise surprise - there was no money in the seller account so they couldn't recover any funds for me. £250 down the drain!!

Based on the links you've provided it looks like I'm going to have to go through Trading Standards and file a fraud report with my bank to try to get my money back

If anyone's thinking of using RJLectronics - DON'T!!

[chrisjoanne]

Just a quickie.....I had a telephone call from a guy from RJLectronics on Monday (30th July) but unfortunately I've been quite bad recently and couldn't take his call.
He said he would call back but hasn't.
Just wondering what he was wanting.....I have sent 3 or 4 emails demanding the money is but back into my account.
It would have been nice to have a chat as you can't get hold of anyone as they don't provide a telephone number.
If I do manage to speak to someone, I'll let you know.
Chris

[drewmullet]

Thanks a lot Chris - that would be much appreciated.

It's weird that he phoned you...I received an email from RJLectronics today, but all it had in the body was a greeting and nothing else. A bit weird but I'm assuming it was some sort of automated email that was sent out by the accounting software he's using.

Anyway for the time being I've emailed Consumer Direct with my situation (http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/con...ction=complain) - they're partnered with Trading Services so I'll see if they can do anything and let you know the outcome.

I also had a call on 30th July, from ohn of RJLectronics, asking me to confirm my credit card details. He left a message on my answer service, leaving his number as 02920376161. I foolishly called back to give my details, but trying the number today, the line is dead.

Originally Posted by chrisjoanne

Just a quickie.....I had a telephone call from a guy from RJLectronics on Monday (30th July) but unfortunately I've been quite bad recently and couldn't take his call.
He said he would call back but hasn't.
Just wondering what he was wanting.....I have sent 3 or 4 emails demanding the money is but back into my account.
It would have been nice to have a chat as you can't get hold of anyone as they don't provide a telephone number.
If I do manage to speak to someone, I'll let you know.
Chris

[drewmullet]

I just received an email from RJLectronics today, with the following message:

"Dear Customers, Please be advised that as of today Thursday 23rd of August 2007 (23/08/07) RJLectronics Limited is no longer trading. Any recent orders placed with RJLectronics Limited will not be processed and your cards not debited. Any recent orders that have been charged will have a refund issued back to your credit card and should be returned within 28 working days. All of your details will be removed from our system shortly."

So hopefully all you people who've paid by credit card and haven't had your products show up will get your money back soon! I paid by PayPal so I've emailed him to confirm that my transaction will be refunded as well, and also asked for a contact telephone number...dunno if I'll get a reply but if I do I'll post it here.

[chrisjoanne]

Got that email too.

Also received this 2 days ago, which is a bit of a concern....

Message from RJLectronics Limited :
Dear Customer, Due to technical difficulties with our payment system your card has not been debited yet (no money has been taken from your account). However we are currently processing your order, to avoid any delay in dispatching your goods we ask if you could submit payment through our back up system (Google Checkout) until our full payment system has been returned to working order. In the mean time if you wish to cancel your order please place CANCEL ORDER: YOUR NUMBER in the subject line and included your name and billing post code in body of your email and send to sales@rjlectronics.co.uk Your order will then be cancelled and your details removed from our system. This is a temporary glitch and we hope to have this matter resolved ASAP. You are welcome to wait until our terminal is fully operational and your details supplied will be charged as normal. We apologise for any inconvenience caused to you at this time. Many Thanks Customer Support RJLectronics Limited

Payment for:
Animal Crossing Wild World & Mario Kart DS


Will anyone that paid via google checkout get paid? .... I doubt it.

Atleast we all knew how this would end and hopefully we saved people a few ££££'s

[camrocl]

I ordered almost 2 months ago. sent many e-mails no replay, no games, £55 less.

Got e - mail on 23/08/07 as follows:

Hi Camrocl
Dear Customers, Please be advised that as of today Thursday 23rd of August 2007 (23/08/07) RJLectronics Limited is no longer trading. Any recent orders placed with RJLectronics Limited will not be processed and your cards not debited. Any recent orders that have been charged will have a refund issued back to your credit card and should be returned within 28 working days. All of your details will be removed from our system shortly. If you have any further enquires please contact us at: admin@rjlectronics.co.uk Regards RJLectronics Limited

Heres hoping i get money back as i couldn't with paypal.

p.s. I checked the website and it has been taken off

[camrocl]

wwwwwwwwwooooooooooooo. Finally got money back!!!


Call 01443 475629 (Home Number)

Talked to owners wife. She said sorry espically that the number isn't too well known.

They are refunding but have had problems and lost lots of money but finally a good ending.

Cheque in the post

Camrocl

[chrisjoanne]

Good to hear!

[drewmullet]

Good news for me too!

Thanks very much for that number - I called up and they were very apologetic and told me they were getting (in my case) a list of people's details from PayPal, so they would send out a cheque in a few days. The cheque arrived a few days later and has just cleared, so I've finally got my money back.

I hope everyone else gets their money back too, and if you haven't, I suggest you call the number posted earlier.

Hi there,

Just liked to say this seems to have worked for me too. Thanks for the number. Seems like the guy (John Murphy) has done a runner, but his father is very generously refunding people like me who paid via paypal. Had a talk with him on the phone, and he seems like a genuine guy who wants to help.

Cheers for all the help guys.

[battle is mine]

Originally Posted by laurence83

Hi there,

Just liked to say this seems to have worked for me too. Thanks for the number. Seems like the guy (John Murphy) has done a runner, but his father is very generously refunding people like me who paid via paypal. Had a talk with him on the phone, and he seems like a genuine guy who wants to help.

Cheers for all the help guys.

So this guy sets up a shop, obviously with no stock. Takes everyones money and does a runner, leaving his old man to sort it out. What a nice guy!! Seriously people these days??!!