[hpoom]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/699/699118p1.html

Here is a link the the rumoured Revo specs!!!

[Miyazaki]

Originally Posted by hpoom

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/699/699118p1.html

Here is a link the the rumoured Revo specs!!!

Pretty disappointing IMHO. Looks like graphically it will fall just ahead of the original xbox, so it turns out the only point to own one is for the new controller.

Why not just release the revolution controller for the NGC and save the expense of a new console?

The whole point of a new console is for prettier graphics and new games etc, but when the graphical improvement is only marginally better than the original gamecube, and the rumoured improved shading to at least attempt to match xbox 360 now down the pan, I am seriously reconsidering whether to buy a revolution or not.

[mattrixdesign2]

[QUOTE=Games Guru]The whole point of a new console is for prettier graphics and new games etc[QUOTE]

I think Nintendo may attempt to change that view! Maybe it should be re-phrased to say "The point of new console is to provide new gaming experience" - which the Revolution may do.

I don't mind them using "old" processing technology IF they can offer me new experiences at a decent price. To be honest I kind of think the look of games has now peaked, at least on SD (Standard Definition Level). From what I have seen of the Xbox 360 it just looks like an Xbox with sharper graphics, although I must admit I have never played a 360 - the thought of owning a 360 does not excite me at all, what is new about the 360 other than prettier GFX and some online content?

The potential of the Revolution does excite me, it may be the first ever Nintendo home console I own (I have owned a GBA, GBASP and NDS), and it will be if the price, controller and games are right.

[hpoom]

Originally Posted by Games Guru

Pretty disappointing IMHO. Looks like graphically it will fall just ahead of the original xbox, so it turns out the only point to own one is for the new controller.

Why not just release the revolution controller for the NGC and save the expense of a new console?

The whole point of a new console is for prettier graphics and new games etc, but when the graphical improvement is only marginally better than the original gamecube, and the rumoured improved shading to at least attempt to match xbox 360 now down the pan, I am seriously reconsidering whether to buy a revolution or not.

Well it all depends what you read into specs!!! The specs are very similar to the xbox specs, but then the GC had about half the specs the xbox had, but graphicaly was not very far behind. Also the Gamecube graphics speed was similar spec to the PS2, but it was way way better a graphics.

Compares flat Mhz on paper between the Revo, Xbox 360 and PS3 is like comparing an Intel, AMD, and Power PC CPU all at 2Ghz. They do no produce the same speed just because they are all 2Ghz. Also another example a 900cc Motorbike will leave and 900cc car for dust, it not just what power you have it's how you use it!

So I'm not worried at the specs on paper, if the gamecube can produce games as good looking as Twilight Princess, then the Revo with a graphics adapeter twice as fast will produce games good enough for me!!!

[Bilbob]

It's what is done that matters... 50% increases in clock rates... this ain't meant to be an HD console... you won't need much more to aceive great graphics at 480p levels of detail...

As has been said, it's about the gaming experience, i guess Nintendo figure they can do enough with what they['ve got..

I'm a little nervous, but I hope Nintendo can deliver!

[tryingtimes]

I still have this feeling that Nintendo are holding out on us, so that it makes a bigger impact on arrival - I wouldn't be surprised if revo games easily surpass the Xbox360 (both in SD).

[hpoom]

Originally Posted by tryingtimes

I still have this feeling that Nintendo are holding out on us, so that it makes a bigger impact on arrival - I wouldn't be surprised if revo games easily surpass the Xbox360 (both in SD).

It would be nice if Nintendo are holding out on us, as it would make a massive impact if they launch with something to rival xbox 360. But I don't really care either way, it's the controller that has done it for me!

[tryingtimes]

Yep, the controller and (depending on price) the back-catalogue.
I'd love to have a quick blast of some older games - Stunt Race FX anyone?

[Marky1973]

The reliance on specs does worry me. And it is not worth arguing over which console is better and which is worse........I have always bought Nintendo because I know I can get the entertainment I want out of it.....they may not win the 'console wars' and they may die a death sooner than any other console but I would still rather splash my cash on Nintendo with poorer graphics and slower cpus in order to play games like the Ocarina of Time, Super Maria 64, The Wind Waker and the upcoming Twilight princess.....games like Resident Evil 4 are just a superb bonus......and games like Blast Corps.....rubbish graphics by today's standards but some of the best gameplay you can come across!......I don't care if the XBOX has better graphics the gameplay on the nintendo wins out each time for me......and this is not an xbox slating comment as I have never owned one.....and probably never will as the games themselves have never really excited me....at least none of the exclusives...regardless of their (admittedly) impressive graphics.

Innovation all the way and I have high hopes for the Revolution and it's controller.....so yah boo sucks to the naysayers

[Tetlee]

Originally Posted by mattrixdesign2

I think Nintendo may attempt to change that view! Maybe it should be re-phrased to say "The point of new console is to provide new gaming experience" - which the Revolution may do.

I don't mind them using "old" processing technology IF they can offer me new experiences at a decent price.

I'm with you there, I already have an Xbox360 for top notch graphics. I'm hoping that Nintendo are going to be offering something alot more than just WOW graphics but similar gameplay, that way between the Xbox 360 & the Revo I should a great range of variety in my games

I'm almost certain to buy the Revo on launch, as long as they give it a sensible price which more than likely they will.

[mattrixdesign2]

Originally Posted by Tetlee

I'm with you there, I already have an Xbox360 for top notch graphics. I'm hoping that Nintendo are going to be offering something alot more than just WOW graphics but similar gameplay, that way between the Xbox 360 & the Revo I should a great range of variety in my games

I'm almost certain to buy the Revo on launch, as long as they give it a sensible price which more than likely they will.

If the price is right I am going to take the plunge and get a Revolution, then when I am richer a PS3...

[spocktra]

Look on the classifieds to see how many 360 games are for sale in comparison to ds and cube games.Tells a story i reckon.

[Tejstar]

Whilst the specs may not be ‘next generation’ the control interface certainly will be.

[Miyazaki]

Originally Posted by Tejstar

Whilst the specs may not be ‘next generation’ the control interface certainly will be.

Then surely brining out the revolution controller for the gamecube would be fine?!

Is it just me....

[Tejstar]

Originally Posted by Games Guru

Then surely brining out the revolution controller for the gamecube would be fine?!

Is it just me....

I know what you’re getting at GG, but the Gamecube had ace graphics – if the Revo improves that 2.5x then that will keep me happy. Whilst I’m not too bothered about HD I really hope they support at least 480p.

[PioRow]

You can no longer use clock speed as a reliable comparison of performance. I bought a dell pc 2.5 years ago, 2.6 ghz. You can now buy a brand new intel chip at 3ghz but it uses different technologies, hyper threading, dual cores, faster bus speeds, more cache on the chip, 64 bit vs 32bit etc etc.
If the new revo chip is used correctly it will produce kick ass graphics, from the specs it looks like they are giving the system plenty of ram so loading times will be minimal and with big megabyte caches we should see great performance.

I wouldnt worry too much about the raw performance of the ship, as long as nintendo can provide developers with brilliant tools (which they have in the past) unlike sony has then developers can just get straight to the power of the system and start producing good looking games.

But as I have stated before, no 720p option, big mistake!

[bonzobanana]

The Revolution is obviously going for the cheaper end of the market. It will probably go easily sub £100 quite quickly. No doubt Nintendo will produce some stunning software but lets face it the Revolution simply isn't as capable as PS3 or 360. There will be games for these that the Revolution has no chance of achieving. This does seem a shame to me. Also if either Microsoft or Sony manage to reduce their costs dramatically then the Revolution has no where to go except ever cheaper. I want a Revolution but I can't help feeling its destined for 3rd place even at its low price. The only hope is if the 360 continues to be unstable and the PS3 is ridiculously priced. Then maybe the Revolution becomes the hassle free option.

I hope the Revolution is a real fun bundle with a load of retro classics included. I'd love to play some of the N64 classics again in higher resolution without having to use grotty s-video output. Pilotwings would be nice.

Personally I was expecting the Revolution to be a little more powerful than the ign article states. So I am a bit disappointed.

[addyb]

Originally Posted by bonzobanana

The Revolution is obviously going for the cheaper end of the market. It will probably go easily sub £100 quite quickly. No doubt Nintendo will produce some stunning software but lets face it the Revolution simply isn't as capable as PS3 or 360. There will be games for these that the Revolution has no chance of achieving. This does seem a shame to me. Also if either Microsoft or Sony manage to reduce their costs dramatically then the Revolution has no where to go except ever cheaper. I want a Revolution but I can't help feeling its destined for 3rd place even at its low price. The only hope is if the 360 continues to be unstable and the PS3 is ridiculously priced. Then maybe the Revolution becomes the hassle free option.

I hope the Revolution is a real fun bundle with a load of retro classics included. I'd love to play some of the N64 classics again in higher resolution without having to use grotty s-video output. Pilotwings would be nice.

Personally I was expecting the Revolution to be a little more powerful than the ign article states. So I am a bit disappointed.

Its not about specs tho! I have a 360 and yes HD gfx are nice but there still the same old games playability wise. And the past new releases have been pretty poor IMO. So far i only like Dead or Alive 4 and Project Gotham 3 for the 360 and they are the same as there previous incarnations game wise, just prettier graphics. I can tell you that the wow factor soon goes from the 360 once you get used to the gfx. Admittedly its still early days for the 360 as of yet but i know the revolution will get me my interest in gaming on consoles back! On paper the GC didnt have great specs compared to the xbox and PS2 but for all the multi platform releases they all looked identical to me and Resident Evil 4 was arguably the best looking game ever to grace the last gen consoles. It depends how anal you are about gfx etc. Im willing to sacrifice HD mind blowing gfx for innovative gameplay any day of the week. Nintendo will prob be 3rd in the so called "console wars" In europe anyway. In japan they remain very big business and the DS is selling like hot cakes. Again due to the gameplay and fun factor that it brings.
I personally cant wait, ill still keep my 360 for the killer titles that appear but can see myself playing on the revolution more. At the moment i havent even been on my 360 since the start of Feb as im too engrossed with my DS at the moment. I regular play 4 player on Mario Kart DS with my mates who also have it and i have to say that its by far the most fun gaming experience i have at the moment!!

[Marky1973]

Originally Posted by bonzobanana

I want a Revolution but I can't help feeling its destined for 3rd place even at its low price.

Do you really care about 'places' in the so called 'console-wars' who cares who sells the most? It is disappointing when the console you buy is consigned to histriy almost as soon as it is released, but i would be more than happy to buy the third placed console for just a little bit of that innovation that Nintendo always manages to keep me smiling with.

This wasn't meant as a personal dig by the way, I just get frustrated by the continual reliance on clock speeds and graphics to decide what console is better than what - if people worked it out on innovation and originality then NIntendo would be out on top everytime.....it just seems that the majority of games in this country seem to enjoy mediocrity and reslish the thought of being able to rush out and buy the new version of the same game every 6 months.

Having said that it is even more frustrating having to wait so long for another Zelda title!

[j98]

Originally Posted by bonzobanana

There will be games for these that the Revolution has no chance of achieving. This does seem a shame to me.

I think there will be far more Revolution games that MS/Sony wish they could match. Of course it would be awesome if the Revolution had as much horsepower as the competition, but wouldn't it be even better for us gamers if all three consoles offered more than just sharper graphics?

For me it seems like a choice between affordable innovation or a bank-breaking facelift to games we've all seen before.

I just hope the Nintendo delivers!

[PioRow]

Originally Posted by Marky1973

it just seems that the majority of gamers in this country seem to enjoy mediocrity and reslish the thought of being able to rush out and buy the new version of the same game every 6 months.

Completely agree, who buys fifa 2006? Who buys the new tomb raider game? The number of people I know who dont read reviews and just go by advertising or what they're kids want. I may be carefull with my money but I dont want to waste £30-£50 on a run of the mill game.
Thats why I am warming to the new Revolution, I want to try something different, I want a new way to play games. Dont get me wrong, I love the console joypad setup, I cant enough of my 360 but the revolution presents so many possibilities.
The problem is that the games playing/buying public are so straight up and not willing to accept change that they will dismiss the revolution even before they have played it or read reviews.

For me the revolution presents the perfect console for me, I dont have a lot of spare cash, cant really afford a PS3 but I can hopefully afford a nice cheap nintendo Revolution. My only fear is that I will have to import an american console due to the poor way in which nintendo treats uk gamers. Nintendo could do with following Microsofts lead in the way it treats its european customers. A UK release date a few months behind the states, release dates a few weeks after the USA and full 480p 50mhz or 720p 50mhz support would be ideal, will it happen.............dont know.