[danwalton]

Read 'em and weep

http://www.engadget.com/2005/12/30/n...less-than-300/

[BrianC]

I wouldn't be surprised if its around £150 or less time it comes out in the UK. At that price it should make the Revolution an ideal second system.

[Tejstar]

Not really surprising news as it Ninty were always going to be competitive on price. I reckon it will be between £180 - £200!

[ash]

Propably £200, but hope they dont con us, like release it without a controller or memory card...

[SeedyR]

It would have to come with controller as that's the main selling point. Probably no memory card though. I'm not suprised at all by the low cost and will no doubt end up getting one.

[Tejstar]

Since Ninty haven't reveleald much about the specs, do you think there's a chance it could come with a hard-drive?

[BrianC]

I think its more likely to come with a reasonable amount of flash memory, say 2 GB may be as much as 4 GB or there abouts.

There will have to be some onboard storage for the downloadable games to work.

[Miyazaki]

£200 is hardly a steal, that's only a tenner cheaper than the xbox 360!

I was expecting a price point of below £150 in line with the gamecube on launch.

[CrispyXUK]

It comes with 512MB flash memory with 2 spare flash slots, thats confirmed.

[drskhaled]

Looks a damn sight nicer than the 360 and sony's next gen monstrosity. for £150 it'll be a steal especially if they release decent launch games (which nentendo seem to do) and i doubt there'll be a shortage like the 360 except in Japan.

512 mb flash is a bit measley even with the two extra slots, no doubt they'll be propriety memory cards that'll cost a lot more than ordinary CF cards.

[CrispyXUK]

Originally Posted by drskhaled

512 mb flash is a bit measley even with the two extra slots, no doubt they'll be propriety memory cards that'll cost a lot more than ordinary CF cards.

Nope, Standard SD cards.

anyway, Gamecube was £150 on launch so I assume their next machine will be priced the same

[Miyazaki]

I thought the GC was £130 on launch?

[CrispyXUK]

I think you may be right there sir

[Tejstar]

Well if it's £150 at launch that will be a steal, as long as there's some good games for it. Although given it's Nintendo I don't think we have to worry about that!

[eviljohn2]

Originally Posted by drskhaled

512 mb flash is a bit measley even with the two extra slots

Surely that depends on what you're trying to store?

[Miyazaki]

£150 at launch with 2 controllers and a bundled game would be ideal. If the rumours that it will be underpowered, and basically a revamped gamecube are true and it retails with 1 controller and no games at £150 then that's a little steep IMHO.

I suppose no rumours will be confirmed until Nintendo speak for themselves. Given that the only release date for the Revolution that we know is Q4 2006, the release is a long way off, and if Q4 2006 means Japan, we won't see it until at least the Summer of 2007.

[Miyazaki]

I got my missus the GC for £40 about 18 months ago with mario kart DD in an argos sale, so I'm laughing from that POV.

I think the only way Nintendo can stay afloat is to undercut the main two and ploy themselves as the "other" console under the tele.

[Tejstar]

Well I’m not sure if it will be underpowered, maybe compared to the 360 or PS3 than yes, but it’s still meant to be 2.5x more powerful than the GC which in my book isn’t shabby!

[Bilbob]

If they intend to compete on price and onnovation, as opposed to power and 'flash' then they need to get the price WELL below 200 notes... as has been pointed out, this is only a tenner below the 360, and that will definately beat the cack out of it in terms of power.
I'm looking forward to the Rev, I think it really can carve a niche as the 'other' one under the telly, but it needs to be cheap enough to do this.
I reckon BELOW £130, I wouldn't be stunned to see £100 on launch. If it's above £150, they are gonna struggle big time. By Xmas next year the 360 will be below £200...

[BenchyUK]

I heard that the Revolution is going to be a little more powerful than the first Xbox.

I will try and find where i read that

[Rock Da Bass]

Originally Posted by Bilbob

the 360, and that will definately beat the cack out of it in terms of power

Originally Posted by lee_c00per

I heard that the Revolution is going to be a little more powerful than the first Xbox.

Nintendo haven't released any specs at all yet but I'll be surprised if it's much different in power the the PS3 and 360. Nintendo tend not to bang on about hardware specs so a lot of people tend to underestimate the power of their machines. Wait 'til you see games in action then decide.

As for "360 definately beating the cack out of it"

RDB

[Bilbob]

Originally Posted by Rock Da Bass

Nintendo haven't released any specs at all yet but I'll be surprised if it's much different in power the the PS3 and 360. Nintendo tend not to bang on about hardware specs so a lot of people tend to underestimate the power of their machines. Wait 'til you see games in action then decide.

As for "360 definately beating the cack out of it"

RDB

Actually, (pity I can't remember where I read it) but it is 'heavily rumoured' ie, almost certainly correct, that the rev will be approximately 2x the power of the existing GC, as they are probably using simialr parts to build it, hence the big deal about it's price. Do some net research, and you will find MANY sources quoting the 'estimated' power of the Rev. I didn't make it up you know...
And it wasn't a 360 fanboi thing either, I used the 360 as it's the only known quantity out there.
Istand by my comments. If anything comes out to disprove it, I'll change my stance ,but my opinion is based on what I have read, not made up in my head!

[Miyazaki]

Originally Posted by Bilbob

Actually, (pity I can't remember where I read it) but it is 'heavily rumoured' ie, almost certainly correct, that the rev will be approximately 2x the power of the existing GC.

How do you quantify the power?

The original xbox (correct me if i'm wrong) had 333mhz cpu. The new one has 3x3.2 ghz processors.

So going by that judgement, the revo will look terrible in comparison.

[Miyazaki]

I think the only thing that has been confirmed is that it won't be HD.

[CrispyXUK]

Originally Posted by Games Guru

How do you quantify the power?

The original xbox (correct me if i'm wrong) had 333mhz cpu. The new one has 3x3.2 ghz processors.

So going by that judgement, the revo will look terrible in comparison.

The original XBOX has a 733mhz CPU and is marginaly more powerful than the Gamecube

[Bilbob]

Originally Posted by Games Guru

How do you quantify the power?

The original xbox (correct me if i'm wrong) had 333mhz cpu. The new one has 3x3.2 ghz processors.

So going by that judgement, the revo will look terrible in comparison.

Ok, seeing as no one could apparently be bothered to go and find info as I suggested, I found it for you all...
Taken from IGN
This bit is important:

Originally Posted by Shigeru Miyamoto

In an interview with IGNcube, Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto offered further insight:

"You know, in regard to the power of the Nintendo Revolution versus, say, the Xbox 360, we're looking at making a small, quiet, affordable console," he said. "If you look at trying to incorporate all that, of course we might not have the horsepower that some other companies

Next Up, we have Spong.com
With this snippet:

The report also claims the IBM-developed Broadway CPU is based on the GameCube’s Gekko processor - another reason fans of Sony and Microsoft’s consoles have seized on this opportunity to dub Revolution little more than GameCube 2 with some relish. It is rumoured that the Hollywood GPU is again a revision of existing GameCube hardware, namely the Flipper by ATi. “Basically, take a GameCube, double the clock rate of the CPU and GPU and you're done, says one source,” another claiming that, “The CPU is the same as Gekko with one and a half to two times the performance and improved caching. Our guys experimented with it and think they'll be able to get about twice the performance as GameCube”.

Lastly, a little goujon from GanesIndustry.biz

Last week, our first really solid look at the hardware that developers are working on for Revolution proved that our assumption about the company's intentions was correct. Nintendo is building a system somewhere between two and three times as powerful as GameCube - no parallel processing, no troublesome cutting-edge chips with their inherent manufacturing problems, no next-generation storage devices, no high definition output.

Ok, so do I ned to find any more?
It wasn't my intention to slag of the Rev, I'm looking forward to it as much as anyone, I've got a 360, and I'm sincerely hoping that the big N will bring up a NEW dimension to gaming.

So let's get off the pedant attitudes, and discuss like a discussion, instead of throwing out unsubstantiated opinion. Take my comments IN context as opposed to out, and suddenly they make more sense, hmmm?

If people actually read the articles, they will find out WHY nintendo is taking this approach. They feel that the amount of power offered by the Rev will be sufficient to do what they want to do. An approach I agree with. We don't NEED high def graphics to enjoy games, but they can make them nicer. Nintendo seem to think that more development will make better games than raw horsepower.
Again, I agree.

[Rock Da Bass]

Hi Bilbob

No offence was meant.

You've provided good links (interesting reading), but all I was trying to say is that Nintendo tend not to overhype their specs compared to other companies, but when we come to see actual games I'll be very surprised if we see much difference in graphicas between the big 3.

When you think about it, "2 times as powerful" isn't a very meaningful phrase. And don't forget, no actual specs have been released, so it's all conjecture anyway.

RDB

[Tejstar]

Originally Posted by Rock Da Bass

When you think about it, "2 times as powerful" isn't a very meaningful phrase.

Get it right RDB, it's 2.5x more powerful - every 0.5 makes a difference!

[CrispyXUK]

Originally Posted by Tejstar

Get it right RDB, it's 2.5x more powerful - every 0.5 makes a difference!

The current dev model was quoted as being about 2x the power of the original XBOX and thats without the finalised GPU.

Sounds powerful enough to me

Still don't see why we are moving on to a next-gen cycle already

[Tejstar]

Sorry Crispy, the figures I was quoting is how powerful the Revo will be over the GC.

You are right though, it does seem an early transition, although more for Xbox than the GC or PS2.