Member Log In

Not a Member Yet?

It only takes a minute to start enjoying the benefits of AVForums membership, and it's free!

HP ProLiant MicroServer N40L Owner's Thread

Thread Closed
Old 30-01-2012, 1:22 PM   #931
Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: Gave 13, Got 16
Posts: 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdoddy View Post
and when does the invoice arrive, with the unit or by email from ebuyer?
Dunno about eBuyer; bought it from dabs and the invoice was sent to my mailbox on the day it was dispatched. Normally you get a delivery note with the delivery and the invoice arrives separately but I've seen retailers to put the invoice in the box as well. Looks like if the item comes straight from the warehouse or manufactures, it doesn't carry the invoice with it. Cheers!!
 
Thanks from:
rdoddy (31-01-2012)
Advert
Log in or sign up to remove
Old 30-01-2012, 1:33 PM   #932
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Auchenblae
Thanks: Gave 417, Got 671
Posts: 2,741
"and when does the invoice arrive, with the unit or by email from ebuyer?"

You can print it directly from your ebuyer account.

edit Ah, AJfish beat me to it.

Last edited by nacmacfeegle; 30-01-2012 at 2:01 PM.
 
Old 30-01-2012, 1:59 PM   #933
XRS XRS is offline
Member
Join Date: Jan 2001
Thanks: Gave 8, Got 3
Posts: 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish View Post
rdoddy,
I think you will be fine. If you read the terms of conditions of the offer which you signed, it doesn't mention anything about delivery, only about the invoice date. Since you have signed these they can't turn around and hold you to having the server delivered by the end of the month.
Your invoice should be available already via Ebuyer. Go to "My Account" and print it off.
AJ
Could be a problem if you don't have the serial number, though. Mine came from Dabs the day after I ordered it (though I had asked for it to be delivered on day 2) and I sorted out the claim by email in no time at all.
 
Old 30-01-2012, 2:01 PM   #934
Member
jerrymac's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cork/Ireland
Thanks: Gave 40, Got 29
Posts: 246
Quote:
Originally Posted by a_friend View Post
One slight problem installed whs2011 last night and every time the system needed to reboot it would freeze on the shutting down message.


Is this a whs2011 or a microserver bios setting issue? I have the bays bios installed and os is running on this sata connection.
I had the same configuration and experienced the same thing.
Flashed to a different bios version and the freezing on shutdown disappeared.
WHS2011 now shuts down as normal or reboots as normal when it needs to.
 
Thanks from:
a_friend (03-02-2012)
Old 30-01-2012, 2:10 PM   #935
New Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Thanks: Gave 0, Got 3
Posts: 23
Originally Posted by ajfish


rdoddy,
I think you will be fine. If you read the terms of conditions of the offer which you signed, it doesn't mention anything about delivery, only about the invoice date. Since you have signed these they can't turn around and hold you to having the server delivered by the end of the month.
Your invoice should be available already via Ebuyer. Go to "My Account" and print it off.
AJ

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRS View Post
Could be a problem if you don't have the serial number, though. Mine came from Dabs the day after I ordered it (though I had asked for it to be delivered on day 2) and I sorted out the claim by email in no time at all.
Well you can get the serial number when the box arrives. Not having the serial number just means that the claim can't be submitted until the box arrives. The claim doesn't have to be submitted before the end of the month.
AJ
 
Old 30-01-2012, 9:38 PM   #936
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Thanks: Gave 22, Got 73
Posts: 1,994
For anyone thinking of going down the same route latest Serviio seems to be working a lot better for me compared to PS Media server. Transcoding on the fly to my Sony TV with only about 40% CPU usage on files that running via PS3 media server my TV wouldn't even see.
 
Old 30-01-2012, 9:43 PM   #937
Senior Member
instigator's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: London
Thanks: Gave 125, Got 69
Posts: 1,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazo
For anyone thinking of going down the same route latest Serviio seems to be working a lot better for me compared to PS Media server. Transcoding on the fly to my Sony TV with only about 40% CPU usage on files that running via PS3 media server my TV wouldn't even see.
Cool...
 
Old 30-01-2012, 10:34 PM   #938
Member
baldmosher's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Manchester, UK
Thanks: Gave 8, Got 3
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymac View Post
I have the N36L and have installed a PCIex1 card with two esata connectors.
Is there anyone who can confirm this and more to the point, is there any way of increasing or getting around this 12 drive limit?
Wow, we get around Jerry!
 
Old 30-01-2012, 10:34 PM   #939
Senior Member
DarkEntity's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Glasgow(ish)
Thanks: Gave 26, Got 129
Posts: 2,025
Thats my order in for 8Gb Ram, 3Tb Hard Drive and Windows Home Server 2011

should be here Wednesday, cant wait to get it all setup
 
Old 30-01-2012, 10:49 PM   #940
Member
baldmosher's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Manchester, UK
Thanks: Gave 8, Got 3
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by nacmacfeegle View Post
Most modern graphics cards will send audio over HDMI, I believe the 5450 will as well.
Your connection will be N40L>HDMI>Amp>hdmi>Tv, yes the N40 will see the resolution of the Tv via the amp. The amp does not become the monitor, the Tv does.
Yep, HD5450 is fine as long as you're using Windows. Linux support for AMD GPU is poor but GPU is marginally better video quality. Otherwise, go for a G210 or GT530 or similar, depends whether you want 3D capability. All well under £40.

But the onboard CPU will easily decode 1080p BluRays, if it's already not under heavy use from other apps, so you might not need an onboard GPU at all, except for HDMI or (optical) audio output. No sound card in the Microserver, but it does have VGA output already, so perhaps you could make do with that and a cheap USB "sound card" with optical audio output to the amp. Depends entirely on your setup & requirements, I chose a GT530 with a fan for various reasons, none of which seem like such a good idea with hindsight, but I can always sell it and buy a passive HD5450/6450/6570 eventually.

HDMI will carry audio, video and ethernet right down the chain from end to end - your amp will only access the audio data of course, and your TV (if you turn the sound up of course) will access the audio and video data. Think of your Microserver as if it were your BD player, set top digibox, and Apple TV combined, with a full internet connection, and a cackload of storage built in.....

As regards "streaming to your amp" unless your amp is capable of decoding and outputting video somehow I think you're mixing your metaphors. The only things that do the streaming are your Microserver or any other DLNA or similar media server on the network.

EDIT: more sense here:#
HP ProLiant MicroServer N40L Owner's Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish View Post
I will probably end up going for the 5450 as I am not fussed about 3D.
A very wise choice IMHO

Last edited by baldmosher; 30-01-2012 at 11:01 PM.
 
Old 30-01-2012, 11:03 PM   #941
Member
baldmosher's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Manchester, UK
Thanks: Gave 8, Got 3
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish View Post
Originally Posted by MacUsers image




You running Windows or Linux? On Linux, then AFAIU, without S3 sleep mode, WOL won't work.
On a separate note, how do you do WOL from WAN? Cheers!!



I am using Windows Server 2008. The net card is configured to "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"
"Allow this device to Wake the computer" and "Only allow management Stations to wake the computer"
With the last option set it will wake when it receives a magic packet. I use a magic packet sender from WOL - Magic Packet Sender - Free Windows Software (it's free). You obviously need the mac address of the net card in the HP N40L. You need to configure the magic packet to be sent to the public IP address of the router which your server sits behind. If you haven't got a static IP you can use a service like DynDNS which will give you an easily remembered domain name to use. Then the only other thing you need to do is port forward UDP packets on port 9 on the router to the server's private IP address which is usually of the form 192.168.x.x
I have used this a number of times to turn the server on (which is at home) from the office, after shutting it down the night before. Then I can Remote Desktop in. Works like a dream.
I agree, scheduling start up and shutdown like you could on my redundant Netgear NAS Duo would be useful.
AJ
That sounds like something I really need to try out but I know I'd rather pay for 35W of power 24/7 than waste my time working out how to do that!
 
Old 31-01-2012, 12:12 AM   #942
New Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Thanks: Gave 0, Got 3
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by baldmosher View Post
That sounds like something I really need to try out but I know I'd rather pay for 35W of power 24/7 than waste my time working out how to do that!
BaldMosher, LOL. That tickled me, but I did read my post back and it does sounds horrendously complicated. It really isn't. When I get time I will put together some screenshots and make it available, especially if anyone else wants to save some power!;-)
AJ
 
Old 31-01-2012, 6:49 AM   #943
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Thanks: Gave 22, Got 73
Posts: 1,994
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish View Post
BaldMosher, LOL. That tickled me, but I did read my post back and it does sounds horrendously complicated. It really isn't. When I get time I will put together some screenshots and make it available, especially if anyone else wants to save some power!;-)
AJ
I would definitely be interested in this. Does anyone use or know of any magic packet sender software for MAC ?
 
Old 31-01-2012, 7:21 AM   #944
Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: Gave 13, Got 16
Posts: 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazo View Post
I would definitely be interested in this. Does anyone use or know of any magic packet sender software for MAC ?
Actually, you don't need any s/w for Mac (I believe you meant Apple Macintosh) - all you need a little script to do that. You can take look at this script I wrote a while ago; it works on both OS X and Linux. The same thing can be done using AppleScript as well but I never tried that. Hope that helps. Cheers!!
 
Old 31-01-2012, 8:20 AM   #945
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Thanks: Gave 22, Got 73
Posts: 1,994
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacUsers
Actually, you don't need any s/w for Mac (I believe you meant Apple Macintosh) - all you need a little script to do that. You can take look at this script I wrote a while ago; it works on both OS X and Linux. The same thing can be done using AppleScript as well but I never tried that. Hope that helps. Cheers!!
Cheers will have a look when I get home.
 
Old 31-01-2012, 9:19 AM   #946
New Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Thanks: Gave 0, Got 3
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazo View Post
I would definitely be interested in this. Does anyone use or know of any magic packet sender software for MAC ?
Well you don't actually need a script at all or anything for the MAC in order to send the magic packets, you can use this website to send the magic packet. I haven't actually tried it, but clearly it's platform independant."http://www.lchu.net/wowASP/index.htm"
New Page 1 <---Their title tags are a bit amiss!
AJ
 
Old 31-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #947
Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: Gave 13, Got 16
Posts: 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish View Post
Well you don't actually need a script at all or anything for the MAC in order to send the magic packets, you can use this website to send the magic packet.
Couple of thoughts - what about the site is down or the Internet service is interrupted in your local area or maybe your modem/router facing difficulties connecting the out side world? A "standalone" thing is always worth having, if possible.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish View Post
I haven't actually tried it, but clearly it's platform independant.
Independent in what sense - sending or receiving? "Sending" cannot be platform independent e.g. a WOL script written in VB cannot be executed from your Linux desktop or MacBook but can wake up a computer running Linux, Mac, Solaris or Windows. The same for the website - if it was made with .Net, then you cannot run it on, for example a Solaris server (in normal circumstance); in this case the web server itself actually acts as the WOL magic-packet sender. Cheers!!

Last edited by MacUsers; 31-01-2012 at 10:13 AM.
 
Old 31-01-2012, 11:08 AM   #948
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coventry
Thanks: Gave 117, Got 544
Posts: 2,718
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdoddy View Post
and when does the invoice arrive, with the unit or by email from ebuyer?
As others have said, the invoice will be available in your ebuyer account as soon as you are charged, however you need to be careful you print off the right thing as people have had the cashback rejected by supplying the wrong print out.

Once logged in your Account go to My Orders then under the relelvent Order Number column select the order the Microserver was part of, this opens the View Order screen, note - this is not the invoice screen you need. From the View Order window you should see the Microserver under Product Description, go along the line to the right until you get to the Status column, if invoice is available then it will say Invoiced here, click on the Invoiced link and this will take you to the Ebuyer Invoice window, I've attached a screenhot of the window you need.
Attached Thumbnails
HP ProLiant MicroServer N40L Owner's Thread-invoice.jpg  
 
Old 31-01-2012, 12:43 PM   #949
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Thanks: Gave 22, Got 73
Posts: 1,994
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish

Well you don't actually need a script at all or anything for the MAC in order to send the magic packets, you can use this website to send the magic packet. I haven't actually tried it, but clearly it's platform independant."http://www.lchu.net/wowASP/index.htm"
New Page 1 <---Their title tags are a bit amiss!
AJ
I did come across that site during a search but as mentioned above I would prefer to send the packets local via my own network.

Thanks for posting the info though.
 
Old 31-01-2012, 12:47 PM   #950
Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ballymena
Thanks: Gave 28, Got 8
Posts: 323
anyone think the offer will be extended? Tempted but don't want to take a chance ordering today
 
Old 31-01-2012, 12:52 PM   #951
New Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Thanks: Gave 0, Got 3
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazo View Post
I did come across that site during a search but as mentioned above I would prefer to send the packets local via my own network.

Thanks for posting the info though.
Well if you only want to do this on your own LAN then fair point, but in that case I find my forefinger works just as quickly to turn the server on.
AJ
 
Old 31-01-2012, 1:01 PM   #952
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Thanks: Gave 22, Got 73
Posts: 1,994
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajfish

Well if you only want to do this on your own LAN then fair point, but in that case I find my forefinger works just as quickly to turn the server on.
AJ
Haha Fair point but not if the server is tucked away and I would rather sit on my arse.
 
Old 31-01-2012, 1:35 PM   #953
Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ballymena
Thanks: Gave 28, Got 8
Posts: 323
I have a few 2GB DDR3 1060MHz RAM modules lying around. Would they be compatible?
 
Old 31-01-2012, 1:47 PM   #954
Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Essex
Thanks: Gave 1, Got 4
Posts: 148
Quote:
Originally Posted by fixtures_man View Post
anyone think the offer will be extended? Tempted but don't want to take a chance ordering today
I emailed them yesterday and they advised the Promotion was going to be extended into February.
 
Thanks from:
fixtures_man (31-01-2012)
Old 31-01-2012, 2:03 PM   #955
Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ballymena
Thanks: Gave 28, Got 8
Posts: 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark.balcombe View Post
I emailed them yesterday and they advised the Promotion was going to be extended into February.
sweet sounds good
 
Old 31-01-2012, 4:32 PM   #956
Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Thanks: Gave 13, Got 17
Posts: 353
My Microserver from eBuyer finally arrived (seems Supersaver delivery just means keep it in despatch for 4 days, then send it on a next day. Hmmm.)

Emailed off my voucher Sunday night and got confirmation Monday 9:30am!

On the OS front, so far I've tried:

1. FreeNAS. Wasn't impressed. Seemed OK, but a bit cobbled together compared to my QNAP or ReadyNAS OS's. Keeps giving critical errors on reboot relating to secondary partition map being corrupt. Forums seem divided on this (common problem) - may or may not be an issue, or just a logging error. I'm not prepared to trust my data with such a potentially critical error though - which is the whole point of a NAS.

2. UnRAID. Seems fine so far. Very command line and documentation is all over the place, often out of date, confused or just lacking. Common functions not east to find (ie: how do I reboot safely or shutdown safely my NAS. No clear answer I could find.). GUI is UGLY with a capital U G L Y! Installed a new skin which at least lets me look at it without being sick and the add-ons seem good, if a little bit strange in relation to installing and reinstalling them each boot.

3. OpenFiler. Didn't see the point as no AFP support.

4. Windows Home Server 2011. Not a Windows person, but thought I should try all options. This will be my task over the next few days. I know it won't do AFP (without virtualisation) but it would have benefits of running iTunes (although I read it is a pain to install). Also not sure about virus's scanning as don't bother on Mac/Unix. Intending to use FlexRaid with it.

Conclusion: Unless WHS is brilliant, I'll use UnRaid and suffer the steep learning curve.

UPDATE 1/2/11: Didn't get on with WHS at all. Its clearly fine with a mainly Windows network, but I have all Mac's and it really isn't targeted at me. I found the install cumbersome, the control panel install messy and requirements of IE baffling.

So, back to UnRAID for an extended test...

Last edited by davisa; 01-02-2012 at 7:50 AM. Reason: Update
 
Old 31-01-2012, 4:40 PM   #957
Prominent Member
clockworks's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: West Country
Thanks: Gave 148, Got 329
Posts: 3,573
WHS2011 works fine with iTunes - at least, it does for me with my N40L. iTunes isn't happy about the lack of a soundcard, but that can be resolved for less than £2.
 
Thanks from:
davisa (31-01-2012)
Old 31-01-2012, 4:55 PM   #958
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Thanks: Gave 8, Got 320
Posts: 2,231
There's also OpenMediaVault and ZFSGuru that you could take a look at.
 
Thanks from:
davisa (31-01-2012)
Old 31-01-2012, 6:50 PM   #959
Distinguished Member
Uridium's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North West Leicestershire
Thanks: Gave 556, Got 1,870
Posts: 14,311
2008 R2 runs well on the Microserver as well if you can get a copy via dreamspark or MSDN etc..bit pricey if not though.
 
Old 31-01-2012, 6:50 PM   #960
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Thanks: Gave 22, Got 73
Posts: 1,994
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacUsers View Post
Actually, you don't need any s/w for Mac (I believe you meant Apple Macintosh) - all you need a little script to do that. You can take look at this script I wrote a while ago; it works on both OS X and Linux. The same thing can be done using AppleScript as well but I never tried that. Hope that helps. Cheers!!
Get an error when trying save the suggested script, copied below.

Pop up box says the following: A “"” can’t go after this identifier.

Pointing this line with the text in bold and underlined highlighted: exec /usr/bin/python -x "$0" "$@"
 
Thread Closed



Thread information and display options
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off