Always loved Placebo. Every track on every album just has something about it that hooks you in. This new album is no exception. In fact, Brian and the boys are on top form here. The album is mostly mellow and emotive, yet the "non-mainstream" melodies are surprisingly catchy, even on first listening.

Pure class. Very highly recommended.

Thanks for the up on that one Squirrel Was wondering what it was like.

I saw Placebo live in Bristol on their first album tour and I have to admit, they absolutely rocked the place. Much, much better than I thought they'd be.

Brian Molko does have a knack for writing immensly catchy power pop tunes. I guess they fill the void for all those who loved Trent Reznor's stuff circa 'Pretty Hate Machine' but found the later NIN stuff a bit too heavy/industrial.

[karkus30]

Got a bit of a pasting in the music rags ( whats new), I have one album the self titled Placebo which is pretty good, dont play it a lot but they certainly rock. I put them in the same catergory as Skunk Anansie, which is no bad thing.

Dont think I will be buying it, cos I seem to be turning into a country / folky

I should change my Avatar to more accurately represent my current fad, perhaps a beard and Arran jumper would be a start

[Whiting]

Why bother with Placebo when you cut straight to the chase and buy The White Stripes' Elephant tomorrow

[karkus30]

I shall be outside the shop early tommorow, hope SG doesnt get in the Q before me

Still, I will be warmer in my Arran sweater and beard.

Placebo
The White Stripes half of the time, the other half is tip top stuff.

Then again I like Linkin Park, so obviously I have no taste in music whatsoever

[karkus30]

Originally posted by EvilMudge
Placebo
The White Stripes half of the time, the other half is tip top stuff.

Then again I like Linkin Park, so obviously I have no taste in music whatsoever

I cannot comment, but cast your ears around Elephant, I dont think you will be disappointed.

Stop listening to nu metal and get down with some folky stuff

Or make a start with some Neil Young

Originally posted by Whiting
Why bother with Placebo when you cut straight to the chase and buy The White Stripes' Elephant tomorrow

I shall refrain from posting anything abusive about the inbred Stripesters. Oooh whoops, couldn't help myself

In all seriousness, I see no musical similarity between Placebo and WS.

I can't be disapointed with Elephant as, after the first White Stripes album, I barely have expectations that it will be music, so they can only impress me. Which they wont. Placebo are ok, did a decent version of Big Mouth Strikes Again, my favorite Smiths song. But their stuff is a little bit samey, maybe it's his voice, I dunno.

Originally posted by Squirrel God
In all seriousness, I see no musical similarity between Placebo and WS.

I can't see one between WS and music

Well, when set out on a sheet of paper, it looks like music.


Hmm, look like music, smell like music, must be Incubus!


Karkus, no more Folk, sitting in a car with my dad -

Will stick to old Grunge and Indie for my more relaxed moments.

[karkus30]

Originally posted by EvilMudge

Karkus, no more Folk, sitting in a car with my dad -

You will miss the beard

....wild rover
no, never , no more

...spent all my money on whisky and Incubus
no, nay, never
no,nay, never no more, I will play the.....

Actually Karkus, I was talking about this morning

Originally posted by karkus30
...spent all my money on whisky and Incubus

Karkus, are you trying to be me?

[karkus30]

Originally posted by EvilMudge
Actually Karkus, I was talking about this morning

so...urrr......you now like folky stuff ?? or I have missed something in your post, would'nt be the first time

Originally posted by Gambit
Karkus, are you trying to be me?

no, your confused...I bought the albums and drank the whisky (and a mighty fine malt it was), If I was being you, it would have gone

...made lots of money 'cos Karkus bought some incubus..

unless of course your Dave Grohl, then that might be right, if he has ever bought any Incubus

No Karkus, I was subjected to 30 minutes of grass roots folk music as dubbed from 1/4" reel 2 reel to cassette using only the worst, most folky interconnects possible.

Please let's not get started about the god who walks amongst lesser musicians and calls himself Dave Grohl.

[karkus30]

Originally posted by EvilMudge
No Karkus, I was subjected to 30 minutes of grass roots folk music as dubbed from 1/4" reel 2 reel to cassette using only the worst, most folky interconnects possible.

Was it one finger in the ear stuff...................or did you need both

Originally posted by karkus30

no, your confused...I bought the albums and drank the whisky (and a mighty fine malt it was), If I was being you, it would have gone

...made lots of money 'cos Karkus bought some incubus..

unless of course your Dave Grohl, then that might be right, if he has ever bought any Incubus

Actually, I'm both dave and Brandon, I just wear fake beards to confuse you simple fools, bwa ha ha ha...

Originally posted by Gambit
But their stuff is a little bit samey, maybe it's his voice, I dunno.

I think you're spot on there... the band is limited by Molko's voice, which is always the same. Good in some ways, as they're instantly recognisable, but does tend to make their stuff all sound similar.

Originally posted by juboy
I think you're spot on there... the band is limited by Molko's voice, which is always the same. Good in some ways, as they're instantly recognisable, but does tend to make their stuff all sound similar.

I get the same feeling with Cypress Hill, despite their songs being different and quite diverse, the guys voice is their hook.

Originally posted by Gambit
I get the same feeling with Cypress Hill, despite their songs being different and quite diverse, the guys voice is their hook.

Agree again. 'Black Sunday' was a classic, after that they always seemed to be chasing former glories and I think that was, as you say, down to B-Real's voice being the key identifier.

Originally posted by juboy
Agree again. 'Black Sunday' was a classic, after that they always seemed to be chasing former glories and I think that was, as you say, down to B-Real's voice being the key identifier.

See, you know all their names
I think they're the two major offenders that I know of, it seems whatever is underneath their tracks doesn't matter to me, all I can hear is the voice and it makes me think "samey". Even with something like Rival Schools' "United by Fate", which features a lot of similar guitar riffs, I can appreciate each song for what it is after giving it due listening (incidentally, it's an ace album/debut- bleeding edge emo). The only band that springs to mind where the guitar riffs sound really samey is RATM ( flame on)

Most bands sound 'samey' (including Incubus). It's what gives each band their unique sound.

Placebo's songs are far from being all very similar though, but they might appear so at first. One a few more listens though, it's easy to tell them apart (a bit like with identical twins)

Karkus - Placebo's first album (the self-titled one) is not their best so don't let your feelings about that one influence your feelings about the rest of 'em dude

Originally posted by Squirrel God
Most bands sound 'samey' (including Incubus). It's what gives each band their unique sound.

Placebo's songs are far from being all very similar though, but they might appear so at first. One a few more listens though, it's easy to tell them apart (a bit like with identical twins)

Karkus - Placebo's first album (the self-titled one) is not their best so don't let your feelings about that one influence your feelings about the rest of 'em dude

Thats what we're saying- but Placebo and Cypress are two main offenders in my eyes. Most people won't give bands they consider "samey" the time needed to begin to distinguish the nuances and subtlties of each track because they think "oh, it's all the same".

[neilo]

sorry Squirrel but I have to disagree the first album is amazing , each album got progressivley worse , but I agree this new one is a return to form ,but no where near as good as debut ............oO(has any one heard the new Radiohead yet ?)

Have to agree with neilo, the debut Placebo album is their best to date IMO.

[Whiting]

Neilo : has any one heard the new Radiohead yet ?)

Just playing it now -- 3 tracks in and I like what I hear A LOT. So far, it's appears more 'conventional' than 'Kid A' and 'Amnesiac'...perhaps a logical progression on from those 2. (NB my favourite Radiohead albums are 'The Bends' and 'Amnesiac')

[karkus30]

Originally posted by Whiting
Just playing it now -- 3 tracks in and I like what I hear A LOT. So far, it's appears more 'conventional' than 'Kid A' and 'Amnesiac'...perhaps a logical progression on from those 2. (NB my favourite Radiohead albums are 'The Bends' and 'Amnesiac')

Is this officially out ??

[Whiting]

Is this officially out ??

Out on June 9th

Leaked to the internet this weekend passed. More details here : NME

[karkus30]

Cheers for that.

Hail to the thief....I like it all ready