Joy Division

DodgeTheViper · 02-03-2008, 9:21 PM

Any recommendations for their best 2 or 3 albums ?

I know their ' best of ' is due out soon.

Cheers

JonnyFriendly · 03-03-2008, 10:05 AM

They only released 2 studio albums - Unknown Pleasures and Closer. They are both equally amazing.

Azzin · 04-03-2008, 9:25 PM

Closer for me.

Hi/zuum · 06-03-2008, 5:23 PM

don't forget about 'Still' their live complilation & Substance which contains the classic Atmosphere. though 'Ceremony' off ~~Still~~ the Heart & Soul Boxset is amazing, one of my favourite New Order tracks made even better given the raw & passionate tones of Ian Curtis live~~, really wished he'd studio recorded that one.~~ well properly not just a demo.

advice to the OP, get them all, it's hardly gonna break the bank if you shop around & if you like Joy Divison none of them will disappoint. Unknown Pleasures/Closer/Still/Substance, Oh & the Live Peel Session as well (really like that one). all are superb.

golden phoenix · 13-02-2009, 9:29 PM

im 40 next month..i cant believe i havent really noticed how amazing joy division are before?...there music is hypnotic..

im gonna buy there studio albums...i was just wondering if there were any good documentaries, concert footage etc..as im only just discovering joy division...ive seen control, recently (which turned me onto them) and a doc on bbc3 about factory records..thats about it..

anyone can point me in the right direction?..also any links to bargains for getting these albums by the way would be appreciated

twogubs · 14-02-2009, 9:12 AM

There is also the docu "Joy Division" by Anton Corbijn that you should check out.

scratchyjase · 16-02-2009, 5:09 PM

also the film control, seen it before and taped it of sky movies to watch.

andrew markwort · 17-02-2009, 12:33 PM

If you get Heart and Soul, you get both the studio albums, plus a lot of the better known alternative studio versions, etc, that you're likely to need. There are some live tracks as well. I find JD far more enjoyable in the studio where there was a bit more discipline imposed, but other folks like the harsher and less constrained quality of their gigs.

If you get into JD then it's worthwhile getting Factory Records: The Complete Graphic Album for the artwork of the albums and 12 inch singles, which by and large is glorious. Other than the Pet Shop Boys, there's probably no band that has been better served by the graphic designers working on their products.

W0LFIE · 17-02-2009, 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew markwort

If you get Heart and Soul, you get both the studio albums, plus a lot of the better known alternative studio versions, etc, that you're likely to need. There are some live tracks as well. I find JD far more enjoyable in the studio where there was a bit more discipline imposed, but other folks like the harsher and less constrained quality of their gigs.

If you get into JD then it's worthwhile getting Factory Records: The Complete Graphic Album for the artwork of the albums and 12 inch singles, which by and large is glorious. Other than the Pet Shop Boys, there's probably no band that has been better served by the graphic designers working on their products.

big fan of JD and all that is Factory and Peter Saville (old 40yr old fart me!)
Wife bought me the FAC 1 poster as birthday prez.

Unknown Pleasures, Closer and Still - buy all 3 if you can.
Buy vinyl and get Still on hessian gatefold ltd ed. I have a gatefold in white with blue type but forgotten where it was from?

Jeez - saw this thread and might have to search thru my old vinyl now! the wife won't be happy!!

(she'll lose control again...doh!)

golden phoenix · 17-02-2009, 6:50 PM

thanks for all the suggestions regarding the music, are there any suggestions regarding filmed gigs, concerts, interviews with the band..and what are the peel sessions like? is that worth buying?..it only seems to be part of the best of JD..and cant be purchased seperately?

thanks in advance

andrew markwort · 18-02-2009, 10:13 AM

The Peel sessions have certainly been available separately in the past. However, the current Best Of compilation contains them all on one disc and at a lower price than you're likely to pay for a second hand dedicated issue of the Peel Sessions (and with a much better cover!). As to what they're like - they're different from the other versions, sometimes subtly, sometimes more obviously. But they are a must-hear if you are getting into the band. Having said that, you should also listen to the Piccadilly Radio (a Manchester commercial station) sessions available on Heart and Soul for the same reason.

For a full rundown on the JD discography, videos, etc (and trust me, once you start, you're in for a long haul before you track everything down) try: Joy Division Central

**Curly99** · 18-02-2009, 7:23 PM

Damn this thread...only Joy division I have is on vinyl(not got my deck setup)...anyway was in HMV and saw the "Heart and Soul" £21 in store anyone know where I can get this for cheaper?

Curly

signs · 18-02-2009, 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by W0LFIE

big fan of JD and all that is Factory and Peter Saville (old 40yr old fart me!)
Wife bought me the FAC 1 poster as birthday prez.

Unknown Pleasures, Closer and Still - buy all 3 if you can.
Buy vinyl and get Still on hessian gatefold ltd ed. I have a gatefold in white with blue type but forgotten where it was from?

Jeez - saw this thread and might have to search thru my old vinyl now! the wife won't be happy!!

(she'll lose control again...doh!)

xBox and now music

Personally i cant stand the band ,Manchester at the time was in serious depression and ironically Joy Division brought them out of it (how did that work

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IMHO they had two reasonable hits and that was it . Nirvana anyone ?

andrew markwort · 19-02-2009, 2:10 PM

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Personally i cant stand the band ,Manchester at the time was in serious depression and ironically Joy Division brought them out of it

I moved to Manchester a year after Ian Curtis's death and I can promise you Manchester was still in a depression for a lot of the eighties. I know that people now think the eighties was like one long Wham! video, but up north it was grim and any potentially fun activity had to be scrutinised by the political correct thought police first. You can have no idea how DULL it all was. Just forget the image presented by 24 Hour Party People - outside a tiny coterie of the painfully hip, the rest of us were bored. Oh, and the Hacienda was pants.

JD are a Marmite band - you either love or hate them.

**Curly99** · 19-02-2009, 9:03 PM

Got in HMV and the "Heart and Sole" set had gone

so I had to settle for the 2 cd best of Joy Division got it on the 2 for £10 offer

@ andrew markwort: Madchester..late 80's early 90's the myth is probably a lot better than it actually was,

I got in to Joy Division after seeing them on the Oxford Road show (late 70's/early 80's) a music magazine show on BBC2 which then led me on to all things New Order...who else

Curly

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