[Matt Horne]

So recently I bought a couple of SACD discs..

Miles Davis Kind of Blue and Dave Burbeck's Timeout.

So I'm very new to Jazz.. what else would be a good introduction to other artists ?

Nothing too crazy though.. I would kinda like a tune

Any recommendations (does not have to be on SACD.. though it would be good)

Cheers

Matt

[huwg]

I have a triple compilation cd called 'The best jazz ever' or something like that.
Each CD has a particular style, so something like that may help you decide which style and artists you like.

I think my particular one has been deleted, but there will be others around.

[unique]

the old sony/columbia releases used to list other titles in the back, so have a look at your copy of kind of blue and use that as a starting point, then check with www.allmusic.com for reviews etc, and maybe amazon will give you samples

if you like kind of blue, checkout some herbie hancock and john coltrane. you will probably love "a love supreme".

blue note, impulse and verve are 3 good labels to look out for, they usually do some really great compilations and you used to be able to get a lot of that stuff around £5 from fopp

[Matt Horne]

Excellent website there.. a great resource

Hello

I love those two albums two specially the Miles Davis which prompted me to go and by all his recorded output i could find
If you check Virgin superstores out your find they have a massive jazz sale most Cds are £5.Theres one for me particular outstanding one at the moment. Its called miles and Quincy Live at Montreux. The quality of sound is amazing if miles muted playing lush and playing Ballard's with a big band. With Gill Evens arrangements appeal. I would check it out. its a fiver on the jazz master series.

I'm a sucker for Jazz guitar i can recomend

Emily Remler Great female player sadly no longer with us

emily on a guitar tutor dvd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPUxdhwjKps


Wes Montgomery Great octave player superfluously grand playing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScPPgZv5Ye8

Ron eschete trio superb trio Ron Eschete 7 string guitar. Todd Johnson 6 string bass. And Paul Humphrey (yes that man who was on pots and pans on Aja ) All the albums are superb

I love Lynne arriale trio all recordings superb trio fantastic audio quality with the cymbals and drums right at the front of the mix. so much detail in recordings wonderful

Lynne Arriale trio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgbTP...elated&search=

Check out the jazz express compilation CDs the late night ones are great

check out Paul Desmond (Dave Brubeck alto) solo CD Cool imagination superb hi fi

Stan getz Tenor sax give quality too Jazz moods CD a nice buy.

Don't forget to singers

Diana krall

http://www.dianakrall.com/ most are good Tony lipuma produced ones best.

Stacy Kent all superb singer

Elaine Elias Dreamer CD superb/ rest of her output is up and down depends how you feel about free form jazz i hate it.

(if you do nothing else please watch this this lady is gorgouse, voice, looking sexy, and playing Wife of mr brekerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1835c4ZRlGc

Ella Fitzgerald brilliant . great sound .. there's a nice Cd of her with Louis armstrong worth a listen to.

Connie Evingson CD some cats know is excellent too

Hope this is informative

Lis@~~

bonus Elaine elias

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZd92...elated&search=

[Matt Horne]

Thanks lots there to have a listen too.. I have just picked up the following SACD's :

John Coltrane Soultrane and A love Supreme
Miles Davis Live Evil (got it cheap from ebay )
Herbie Hancock Headhunters (love watermelon man)
All 3 Vince Guaraldi (2 of them soundtracks from Charlie brown CBS shows.. love these very laid back and relaxing...)

Oh and 3 Isaac Hayea albums.. not Jazz... but cool

[unique]

Originally Posted by Matt Horne

Thanks lots there to have a listen too.. I have just picked up the following SACD's :

John Coltrane Soultrane and A love Supreme
Miles Davis Live Evil (got it cheap from ebay )
Herbie Hancock Headhunters (love watermelon man)
All 3 Vince Guaraldi (2 of them soundtracks from Charlie brown CBS shows.. love these very laid back and relaxing...)

Oh and 3 Isaac Hayea albums.. not Jazz... but cool

right, you got some really great stuff. checkout the other herbie hancock albums from that period if you like headhunters, the later stuff goes electro like rockit. the miles stuff from kind of blue right through to you're under arrest is worth checking out, but some of it can be hard going at first. in a silent way, on the corner, agartha, etc are all very different

sounds like you like the funk/fusion type of stuff so checkout weather report. and most of isaacs albums are great, the 70s stuff is best of course

[Philly112]

Originally Posted by Matt Horne

Miles Davis Live Evil (got it cheap from ebay )

I suspect it might be back on ebay once you've heard it

Good cover though!

Phil

PS Interesting to know what you think of it.

[Matt Horne]

yeah i have read a bit about it... it was a risky buy... not gone for bitches brew either...

which of the other miles albums are worth checking out before they become really off the wall?

ta..

matt

[Matt Horne]

Originally Posted by unique

sounds like you like the funk/fusion type of stuff so checkout weather report. and most of isaacs albums are great, the 70s stuff is best of course

hmm off to check that out.... thanks

[Philly112]

I'd probably check out a couple of the Kind of Blue era stuff first - Sketches of Spain and the earlier Milestones.
I personally wouldn't go for Bitches Brew, simlpy because I think that although groundbreaking etc etc, that band now sounds a bit dated. But if you like Live Evil, you have to get it! I would prefer In A Silent Way to BB though -similar concept, but a year earlier, yet to my ears has stood the test of time better.
The 60's band with Herbie Hancock is interesting, much looser than the Coltrane era, and more of a modern sound. Not sure whether I'd really want to recommend anything though. Possibly Miles Smiles? Another groundbreaking band though.

If you like tuneful jazz (isn't it all... maybe something by Wynton Marsalis from the modern era, but with an old fashioned sound. You'll be on steady ground there - see if there's any youtube clips to see if you like it.

Phil

[unique]

Originally Posted by Matt Horne

yeah i have read a bit about it... it was a risky buy... not gone for bitches brew either...

which of the other miles albums are worth checking out before they become really off the wall?

ta..

matt

bitches brew is an excellent album, but it can take getting used to as it's a jazz/rock fusion

in a silent way is also excellent, but it's like an ambient chillout album, so shouldn't hurt your ears, so worth getting that

on the corner is pretty mental stuff, its jazz/funk fusion, when miles was inspired by james brown

you have the stuff with gil evans orchestration, which is very mellow so easy listening, miles ahead, porgy and bess, sketches of spain, and quiet nites. you can't do wrong in getting sketches of spain, and if you like that you'll like the rest

if you like a kind of blue, then ESP is similar, if not slightly better, thats part of the miles quintet stuff from 65-68, so you got sourcerer, directions, water babies, nefertiti, circle in the rouns, miles in the sky, files de kilimanjaro. thats the kind of stuff most people will think of as "jazz", no mental goings on there

the 70s stuff starts taking a trip into experimentation, and can be hard going. you have the double live albums pangae and agharta, which are just long jams in one chord. personally i like it, but i think you need to start off with kinda of blue, esp, sketches of spain, in a silent way, bitches brew, on the corner, and then get into that stuff

with herbie, get head hunters, manchild, mr hands as a start

weather report get i sing the body electric, black market, weather report, heavy weather, sweet nighter

john coltrane stuff can go as mental as miles, if not moreso. one of his albums just has drums and saxophone and is an exploration of testing your musical patience, but try giant steps, blue train, my favorite things, and ole (his spainishy album, which is great)

pharoah saunders stuff is also great, but some can be hard going, we are talking 30+ min tracks

as for compilations, they vary from awful cheap supermarket collections, to commercial tv advertised ones, but you can get some good ones on impules and blue note and specialised labels. i'd suggest find a good independant retailer and find out a bit more and have a listen

as for the sony/columbia stuff which is most of the acts mentioned above, you can get the cds for £5, so it's worth taking a risk on some of the more mental stuff. if you don't like it, keep it and listen to it after you've got more into some of the other stuff and you might find it grows on you or sounds less odd

so try sketches of spain, in a silent way, bitches brew, on the corner and you'll get a fair example of how miles can vary the sound

the stuff prior to kind of blue, such as birth of the cool, is called bop, and is short lively tracks. thats the best example of the genre, if you don't like it, stick to the stuff from kind of blue onwards. look at the years albums were released, and the names of the musicians and that will give you clues as to the stuff to go for

[BackBeat]

If you fancy some smooth and sophisticated jazz try Grover Washington Jnr. (saxophonist). His Winelight album sounds fantastic on DVD-Audio.

How about The Crusaders or Joe Sample (keyboard) solo stuff?

Larry Carlton (guitar) comes to mind as well.

[synthboy1]

personally i love bitches brew and live evil... they are the only Miles Davis CDs i play over and over... i played jack johnson and on the corner once when they i bought them and ive never gone back to them.