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Old 09-06-2006, 3:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it purely a black thing

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Was making a compilation cd today i call them complication cds.. with my cd hi writer going through the parents massive cd collection The only sure way i can do it is to make a theme for each cd. I chose female singers. What i do i study each disc find the year and do them in three's like three from 60's three from the 70's and so on. I have to have a system because i make to many futch ups.

Something i noticed i would love to share with each and every one of you is i found some Gladys Knight hidden away and to hear her original version of I heard it through the grapevine and Freindship train and "end of our road" and "walk in my shoes". By goodness me. what makes her and and Mavis staples and anne peebles, tina turner and millie jackson so great to name a few others i equaly respect. So great... is they put 100%.into it.. dose any one else agree or feel this way too please?

Dose anyone think this is purely a black thing to give it 100%. When these ladys sing i have tears in my eyes helping them through even with the upbeat stuff thats tears of appriciation.

I was wondering these people really enjoy singing and i it rubs of on you. Do you think music. would be better still if everyone had the same enthusiam.

To hear Mavis staples sing melody cool on the prince cd and the wonderouse slow train on best of the staples singers, gladys knight energy singing the up beat "end of our road" , and to hear the pips answering her back in midnight train to georgia. I read that was done in one take you know. Wonderful wonderful stuff.. huge kisses to all these wonderful singers. and the wonderful ann peebles singing "Ive been there before" From straight from the heart and those horns o'hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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nope , seeing as Dusty Springfield is on par if not better than some of the artists you have mentioned. Laura Nyro was equally fantastic too. Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac.
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ooh, she got soul
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I don’t believe it not 10 minutes before you posted Lisa I had Gladys Knights Greatest Hits in my hands, although I have quite a collection of her LP’s in my record collection, my favorite of heres is If I Was Your Woman. I was lucky to see her in concert .

Dusty was more or less a white soul singer, I once had a record What’s It Gonna Be and covered the label and gave it to an ardent Northern Soul fan and he thought it was a black singer and said it was soul. I class her has England’s finest popular singer ever,

If you want to as an other lady from this side of the pond you can add Shirley Bassey from Tiger Bay who can belt a song out with the rest of them albeit of an other generatons material.
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a lot of the people you mentioned grew up going to gospel church where everyone sings thier heart out. thats where aretha and the staples voices came from. it's prettymuch a predominantly black patronage in america. in predominantly white churches the singing is reserved, and they certainly don't encourange dancing and clapping

you should also checkout some early chaka btw
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...To listen to "We have all the time in the world" (Nat King Cole?) used to give me goose bumps...
you mean Louis Armstrong

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I really miss all the passionate, high power music from the 70s (I think it was then).

Phil Spector and the wall of sound. Just mesmerising.

To listen to "We have all the time in the world" (Nat King Cole?) used to give me goose bumps.

Likewise the Four Tops. "Simple Game" was simply superb.

Everything just seems plastic, these days, by comparison.
Its because everything is so comercialised now, that in general, we are not exposed to that majority of alternative music that still remains 'non plastic'. You have to make the specific effort or remain drowned in a sea of mediocre drivel.
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Probably 80% or so of the music I own you could call 'music of black origin' and most female artists in there are either black or sing in the soul kind of style.

I love singers with gravely voices, Tom Waits and stuff, most female artists don't have that, which is why Nina Simone is so amazing.

I've often wondered if the lack of female artists that I like makes me slightly misogynist, or if a lot of it isn't very good or just not my thing.

PJ Harvey being one exception. Breeders, Distillers and a couple of other people of that type of music.

I started a thread on another forum a while back posing the question 'do bands get worse, the more female members they have' after going to a gig where there were 3 support bands that were mostly female and mostly awful. The answer seems to be yes. There are some amazing bands with one female member, a few with 2, not many with more that are any good.

I await the avalanche of female only bands.
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Who was it that sang Old Man Reeber? The same Satchmo?

I'm not good with names. Ask me for a drunken Scotsman and I might say Charles Kennedy, Charles Campbell, who knows?
Old Man River? - William Warfield, Paul Robeson, and possibly Satchmo at some point
- Charles Cameron, too
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I started a thread on another forum a while back posing the question 'do bands get worse, the more female members they have' after going to a gig where there were 3 support bands that were mostly female and mostly awful. The answer seems to be yes. There are some amazing bands with one female member, a few with 2, not many with more that are any good.

I await the avalanche of female only bands.
Elastica, L7, All Saints, TLC weren' too bad

on the other hand... Coors, Nolans, et al...
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Elastica, L7, All Saints, TLC weren' too bad

on the other hand... Coors, Nolans, et al...
Yeah elastica are another good band with more than 2. I don't really know L7.

Manufactured girl bands don't count I'm afraid as the record companies bring them together and then they stil tear themselves apart.

Talented women generally don't seem to work well with other talented women.

Big list off all female bands, just look at some of the names...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_all-women_bands
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I really miss all the passionate, high power music from the 70s (I think it was then).

Phil Spector and the wall of sound. Just mesmerising.

To listen to "We have all the time in the world" (Nat King Cole?) used to give me goose bumps.

Likewise the Four Tops. "Simple Game" was simply superb.
Phil Spector can be classed as 60's stuff with hit for groups like The Ronnetts, The Crystals, etc including the biggy River Deep Mountain High with Ike and Tina Turner.

The 70's was probably the last best decade of music as it had a lot of groups that started out in the 60's even the 50's. Also there was a lot of people with talent allowed to write their own material. And although there was manufactured groups then nothing like what happened in future decades.
I personally thought Stock, Atckin and Waterman (what ever), was one of the worst things to hit the UK record market.

If you like The Four Tops Simple Game try Do What You Gotta Do both I cannot believe are on my anthology album of them yet have Climb Every Mountain on it.

Oh Nat King Cole although you got it wrong he has to be one, if not the one of the warmest voices ever. there never be an other like him.

PS going to move this to the music section later on.
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I really miss all the passionate, high power music from the 70s (I think it was then).

Phil Spector and the wall of sound. Just mesmerising.

To listen to "We have all the time in the world" (Nat King Cole?) used to give me goose bumps.

Likewise the Four Tops. "Simple Game" was simply superb.

Everything just seems plastic, these days, by comparison.
Maybe because in those days there were no synthesisers, so you heard real musical instruments and no forced overstated bass ?
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you should also checkout some early chaka btw[/QUOTE]

huge thanks to all what some responce some interesting points.. hope some more write too.

unique!!!! The only early chaka i heard is something called once you get started which i do like but not so keen on her after rufus life I (Gee clever of me to remember Rufus wow)

not... doing my normal and going of on one and on to other subjects lol Staying firmly on the plot.. I was in ASDA..... and theres this new double cd for fathers day its a double with a red cover and its slipped my mind what the title is is it "cool" and has loads of funky music .. it was playing over the speakers there was a track playing sounded wonderful! I had a little boogies and had to ask who it was! it was lynn collins and the jbs, looked her up in amazon to expensive to buy. But the bonus is i can let you all hear what it sounded like i love this band james browns jb's (King heroin instumental is the one still dose it for me.) But would love it if someone else loved this too.

ready roll on the drums .... http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers...bo_Starks.html
Hit the link to play the lynn collins play it loud honest if your a dancer your be up out your seat.

Wow the moderator there who was playing the Gladys knight.. is that LP you were fondling LOL pre buddah days dad asked.. whats the big track

Dont i go on sorry lads

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