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Old 15-05-2006, 9:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why No SACD's????

Why am I finding it difficult to find SACD's to buy......even on this forum?
Are they obsolete?????
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not a widely produced format. It hasn't taken off as the likes of CD... probably because already a very established format and many a CD doesn't really sound that much worse if at all. Good enough for most public ears.

A decent SACD player costs more than average joe public would spend. This is where SACD really starts to shine.

Disc availability is also dependant on the type of music you like. Admittedly finding such in store is almost like finding a needle in a haystack.
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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try play.com

http://play.com/Music/SuperAudioCD/N...egionHome.html
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There are a good number of outlets for SACD's and even DVD-As,but the major problem is the lack of software,with many of the releases being confined to re-issues of major label back catalogues,a good number of which also have awful multichannel remixes.

It does seem currently as if the major players are not pushing either format,and DualDisc seems to have slipped away quietly.
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There is actually quite an extensive catalogue of SACD and DVD-A. However, it's all on the other side of the pond. I found a staggering 26 pages of Hi-res on one site alone. The average for the UK is about 4!

Seems the US market is readier for those media than we are.
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There is actually quite an extensive catalogue of SACD and DVD-A. However, it's all on the other side of the pond. I found a staggering 26 pages of Hi-res on one site alone. The average for the UK is about 4!
Seems the US market is readier for those media than we are.
What overkill said - www.cdpacific.com stock them @ good prices even when u add p&p - mainstream ones like DSOTM Brothers in Arms etc can also be found at CDWow & Blah - worth searching www.find-cd.co.uk before you go Stateside ... Paul
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SACD is seemingly on the brink of collapse. There is currently a petition online to urge the record companies to save the format:

http://www.petitiononline.com/SACD/

I signed it. Feel free to do the same and hopefully keep the format alive!
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SACD is seemingly on the brink of collapse. There is currently a petition online to urge the record companies to save the format:

http://www.petitiononline.com/SACD/

I signed it. Feel free to do the same and hopefully keep the format alive!
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Just read an interview with Bob Stuart of Meridian in HifiNews(?) lunchtime. He said in the format war between SACD and DVD-A, MP3 has won.

Quite astute...

He also predicts the same potential fate for Blu-ray / HD DVD if electronics companies can't agree on a common way forward. He quotes a japanese proverb..."If we all cross the road together, no-one gets run over"!

I didn't know this but Meridian are heavily involved with both formats so they don't care who wins (as long as someone does)

As someone who loves SACD and DVD-A, I don't think an online petition with around 1000 names on it will make the slightest difference, sorry guys

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Just read an interview with Bob Stuart of Meridian in HifiNews(?) lunchtime. He said in the format war between SACD and DVD-A, MP3 has won.

Quite astute...

He also predicts the same potential fate for Blu-ray / HD DVD if electronics companies can't agree on a common way forward. He quotes a japanese proverb..."If we all cross the road together, no-one gets run over"!

I didn't know this but Meridian are heavily involved with both formats so they don't care who wins (as long as someone does)

As someone who loves SACD and DVD-A, I don't think an online petition with around 1000 names on it will make the slightest difference, sorry guys

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Rather a worrying prediction. Although to be fair, it's an astute one. It also shows, as in the other format wars, the mainstream punter is after convenience and low cost over quality. The convenience of CD won over vinyl, and its superior sound and ease of use won over it's main rival, cassette tape. In the VCR format struggle, VHS, by far the worst of the three, beat the others hands down by being cheaper in both soft and hardware terms.

Sadly, I also agree the last point. The Record moguls wouldn't give a stuff if 500,000 sign up.
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Amazon.co.uk have specific SACD, DVD-A and DualDiscs sections on their website :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...736209-3596464

Or you could try amazon.com as the exchnage rate £/$ works well in our favour.

play.com as mentioned also have a good selection
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If you like classical music glance at this site:

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Sadly, I also agree the last point. The Record moguls wouldn't give a stuff if 500,000 sign up.
Yep petitions normally have little affect on any outcome, even if it were in millions it would still only be a very small percentage of the population. Better to create some fuss tho' than none at all, just for attention.... maybe it'll fire up someones concern.

Unfortunately at the end of the day if sales are not doing their bit to give enough encouragement to keep the format alive it will die. Simply because R&D and manufacture would just be far to costly. It is a shame because along with DVD-A it is the best digital audio format available bar none. It's possible that in the event of death media will remain forsale for sometime but hardware is likely to cease.
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Yep petitions normally have little affect on any outcome, even if it were in millions it would still only be a very small percentage of the population. Better to create some fuss tho' than none at all, just for attention.... maybe it'll fire up someones concern.

Unfortunately at the end of the day if sales are not doing their bit to give enough encouragement to keep the format alive it will die. Simply because R&D and manufacture would just be far to costly. It is a shame because along with DVD-A it is the best digital audio format available bar none. It's possible that in the event of death media will remain forsale for sometime but hardware is likely to cease.
Not sure about that, only because as having worked with them, the CD producers cynicism beggars belief. I agree though, better to make a stand, however small, than go under with a whimper.

Agree with the second point. I wonder how much commitment there has ever been to hi-res? HDCD was damp squib, and the fanfare that announced the latest generation was hardly 'Olympian' in it's stature. Compared with the fuss over CD's launch that is.

I'm not sure about the formats future just yet though. There are a lot of new releases going on stateside for DVD-A in particular, and as that's the biggest market in the World the manufacturers may just be waiting to see how it fares there. If sales there don't make the break even figures, then it will, as you say be left to die out.

I think the hardware will continue to come out, but it will be in multiformat form only, as the companies can then 'hedge'. As you say though, unless a lot of units shift (in the US) then we can expect to see any commitment even to that area dying off.

Pity, as the DVD-A is easily my fave digital format.
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