[Bbnm]

Hi,

Was nt she GREAT !

move over madonna !

brilliant !

Brenda

[soundstory]

She was better than expected, but Florence & The Machine were in a different league

[Bbnm]

Ha ha,

I wondered if they were the ones i was thinking of, mainly the pretty red head singer, looked up and i was right , yes she was great but would like to see them on the bigger stage, maybe next year.

Brenda

[evangelink]

I thought Ga Ga was amazing at Glasto, It was one of the most lively crowds I was in all weekend. Great show, and nice and different to the other acts on the Other Stage that day. And the sparking bra was a genius moment!Her and Florence are coming from two different ends of the spectrum, so not really easy to compare, but I didn't see as big a crowd trying to push into the John Peel Stage as I did when she was on so shes gonna be big I think. I only caught 10 mins but she sounded good, but I was more interested in going to see Deadmau5 in the dance village.

[Pecker]

One of the low points of the festival.

On the TV she was clearly miming for much of the time.

Steve W

[JohnG]

I was struggling to remember who this Ga Ga person was until I read the post above about her miming, then I knew who you meant. I turned that off after a very short while.

[Mac Man]

I thought the (cough) outfits were very nice.

Did remind me of early Madonna though...

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by Bbnm

Ha ha,

I wondered if they were the ones i was thinking of, mainly the pretty red head singer, looked up and i was right , yes she was great but would like to see them on the bigger stage, maybe next year.

Brenda

I'd imagine so.

Album out next monday !

[evangelink]

Originally Posted by Pecker

One of the low points of the festival.

On the TV she was clearly miming for much of the time.

Steve W

Certainly wasn't a low point for the people actually there! Easy to pick holes in the performance when it's being watched back on TV, but it was incredibly fun to watch, and she attracted a huge crowd who all seemed to be having a good time.

[JohnG]

I don't like people miming on stage, it seems like cheating to me

[Philly112]

Originally Posted by evangelink

Certainly wasn't a low point for the people actually there! Easy to pick holes in the performance when it's being watched back on TV, but it was incredibly fun to watch, and she attracted a huge crowd who all seemed to be having a good time.

When it comes to the fact that people are having a great time watching people miming on stage... Well, it maybe an age thing, but it does nothing for me. 'Music' for people who don't know what music is.
But I do accept that many people seem to like this sort of thing. But it ain't music.


Phil

[Coffin]

For me it depends if the artist is supposed to be 'performing' or singing. Michael Jackson's Billie Jean at Motown 25 is the stuff of legend yet was completely mimed..as he was performing rather than singing.

I've been to Glastonbury a few times now (tho not this year) and from what I've experienced there in particular I would expect the artist to be singing live.

[evangelink]

Originally Posted by coffin137

For me it depends if the artist is supposed to be 'performing' or singing. Michael Jackson's Billie Jean at Motown 25 is the stuff of legend yet was completely mimed..as he was performing rather than singing.

I've been to Glastonbury a few times now (tho not this year) and from what I've experienced there in particular I would expect the artist to be singing live.

Whilst her set certainly won't be going down in the history books, It was still a great performance. In all my experience at festivals I don't recall an artist having to do a costume change 3 times in a set, but she did as it was all part of it.

Maybe she did mime some parts (and I wouldn't expect an act to do that at Glasto) but she was certainly doing some energetic dancing, I'm guessing that's the reason.

[evangelink]

Originally Posted by Philly112

When it comes to the fact that people are having a great time watching people miming on stage... Well, it maybe an age thing, but it does nothing for me. 'Music' for people who don't know what music is.
But I do accept that many people seem to like this sort of thing. But it ain't music.


Phil

Don't get me wrong, I'd get bored of watching this sort of thing for the whole weekend, and I saw other bands who I'm sure you would have appreciated more. But she did what I guess she does best and just put on a big show which was a lot of fun to be a part of.

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by coffin137

For me it depends if the artist is supposed to be 'performing' or singing. Michael Jackson's Billie Jean at Motown 25 is the stuff of legend yet was completely mimed..as he was performing rather than singing.

I've been to Glastonbury a few times now (tho not this year) and from what I've experienced there in particular I would expect the artist to be singing live.

You know what, everybdy raves on and on about MJ's Billie Jean performance, but your right, being mimed what was the point??

Whoppee he did the moonwalk !! (he didn't even do it first as we all know).

The arguement seems to be , well it's hard to dance AND sing at the same time.

No it isn't !!, just a poor excuse in my book

[unique]

Originally Posted by soundstory

You know what, everybdy raves on and on about MJ's Billie Jean performance, but your right, being mimed what was the point??

Whoppee he did the moonwalk !! (he didn't even do it first as we all know).

The arguement seems to be , well it's hard to dance AND sing at the same time.

No it isn't !!, just a poor excuse in my book

to be fair the motown 25 thing was just him miming to one song, and it's pretty common for artists to mime for tv performances, especially when it's just one song. not that it would be that much harder for the vocalist to sing live over a prerecorded backing tape, as it's generally setting up drums, guitar etc that's the main hassle, but many "pop" acts do it so they sound exactly the same as on the record, as if they are doing tv promo and sound crap live, no-one will buy the record

in saying that, have seen a fair number of MJ live shows, he mimed most of the time, and not just during energetic dance routines. in fact there are only about 3 songs out of a 2 hour set that have routines that might put you out of breath, he would mime to slow songs whilst standing pretty still on stage. watching acts that run around the stage like crazy whilst trying to sing live, they usually shout the vocals, such as when madonna's vocals are live, but you get people who do musicials onstage every night who dance and sing live, and MJ's shows are VERY similar to those as there is absolutely no spontaineity in his live shows

i've not seen gaga at glastonbury, but she is very much a pop act in the style of kylie, and the performance and style is a main part of what she does. as with many dance acts, most people want to hear the song just like on the radio and see a performance, rather than real instruments and singing, but in saying that, that's usually what you would expect at glasto. gaga does sing live at shows at least some of the time, and does play keyboards at least (she has a live AOL session) and she wrote a bunch of hit singles for the likes of pussycat dolls and rhianna etc, she's just branching out to become a pop star herself. i think she is trying to put the emphasis on pop star for now, she doesn't really need to prove herself to critics as those in the know are aware of her background, a bit like timbaland releasing his solo album after donkeys years of producing and writing hits for dozens of other folk. he's another talented guy, but i think most people are probably sick of him now

[soundstory]

I think she hit the UK at the right time, January this year.

Let's face it we all need a bit of a lift straight after NYE & she certainly did that.

I recall seeing her on Jonathan Ross, she handled him perfectly, he didn't know what to do with himself.

[Pecker]

Originally Posted by soundstory

I think she hit the UK at the right time, January this year.

Let's face it we all need a bit of a lift straight after NYE & she certainly did that.

I recall seeing her on Jonathan Ross, she handled him perfectly, he didn't know what to do with himself.

The other way around - she made a complete idiot of herself. The next week all the guests were taking the mickey out of her.

Steve W

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by Pecker

The other way around - she made a complete idiot of herself. The next week all the guests were taking the mickey out of her.

Steve W

Well I don't know what happened the next week, but she didn't make an idiot out of herself as far as I was concerned

[evangelink]

Originally Posted by Pecker

The other way around - she made a complete idiot of herself. The next week all the guests were taking the mickey out of her.

Steve W

Definitely not a fan then Pecker!I came away from watching that interview, and subsequently her talk in between tracks at Glasto, thinking that she was putting on a different (and stranger) performance to a regular interviewee but I wouldn't say she made an idiot of herself. If you look at her musical background in the NY club scene, and her influences (heavily influenced by Fashion and other 'unique' stars such as Grace Jones/david bowie/freddie mercury) then I think it explains why she puts on her performance. If anything she is enjoying her 15 minutes, so I'm sure a few **** taking comments from Ross's guests aren't gonna bother her!:-)

[unique]

Originally Posted by evangelink

Definitely not a fan then Pecker!I came away from watching that interview, and subsequently her talk in between tracks at Glasto, thinking that she was putting on a different (and stranger) performance to a regular interviewee but I wouldn't say she made an idiot of herself. If you look at her musical background in the NY club scene, and her influences (heavily influenced by Fashion and other 'unique' stars such as Grace Jones/david bowie/freddie mercury) then I think it explains why she puts on her performance. If anything she is enjoying her 15 minutes, so I'm sure a few **** taking comments from Ross's guests aren't gonna bother her!:-)

she dresses weird on purpose to get people to talk about it, this has been done for years and years, only it's not as shocking today as it was in the 60s and 70s, particularly when the parents of kids/teenagers today probably did the same thing when they were young, whereas parents of kids/teenagers in the 60s and 70s were less likely to have done it

if she is being talked about when she isn't even on the show, or on the internet, then it's all free publicity

[evangelink]

Originally Posted by unique

she dresses weird on purpose to get people to talk about it, this has been done for years and years, only it's not as shocking today as it was in the 60s and 70s, particularly when the parents of kids/teenagers today probably did the same thing when they were young, whereas parents of kids/teenagers in the 60s and 70s were less likely to have done it

if she is being talked about when she isn't even on the show, or on the internet, then it's all free publicity

I think we all know that what she's doing isn't exactly original, but I don't see what's wrong with it? Better than watching a bland boy band / tween idol being told what to say and how to act, which is the normal face of pop these days.

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by evangelink

Definitely not a fan then Pecker!I came away from watching that interview, and subsequently her talk in between tracks at Glasto, thinking that she was putting on a different (and stranger) performance to a regular interviewee but I wouldn't say she made an idiot of herself. If you look at her musical background in the NY club scene, and her influences (heavily influenced by Fashion and other 'unique' stars such as Grace Jones/david bowie/freddie mercury) then I think it explains why she puts on her performance. If anything she is enjoying her 15 minutes, so I'm sure a few **** taking comments from Ross's guests aren't gonna bother her!:-)

[lechacal]

I haven't got anything against her but the Glasto performance p'd me off a bit. I'm not convinced she was singing live (but she may have been) and a lot of the band performance was certainly taped. You shouldn't turn up to a festival and do what's basically a karaoke set. I preferred Little Boots' set. And Florence.

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by lechacal

I haven't got anything against her but the Glasto performance p'd me off a bit. I'm not convinced she was singing live (but she may have been) and a lot of the band performance was certainly taped. You shouldn't turn up to a festival and do what's basically a karaoke set. I preferred Little Boots' set. And Florence.

You won't get any debate about Little Boots or Florence