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24-06-2008, 8:54 PM
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Are all these old movies being released on blu-ray really HD or are they upscaled/upconvertions?
I mean, if I have an upconverting DVD player will a bluray of an 80s movie like Die Hard be that much better than my original DVD disks? (obviously HD extras and disk content aside).
Sorry this probably has been asked a zillion times.... maybe they have rescanned the entire movies.
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24-06-2008, 9:07 PM
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Originally Posted by onefivenine Are all these old movies being released on blu-ray really HD or are they upscaled/upconvertions?
I mean, if I have an upconverting DVD player will a bluray of an 80s movie like Die Hard be that much better than my original DVD disks? (obviously HD extras and disk content aside).
Sorry this probably has been asked a zillion times.... maybe they have rescanned the entire movies. | Basiclly FILM is higher quaility then DVD was, so it would be a better picture.
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Originally Posted by tomd84 Basiclly FILM is higher quaility then DVD was, so it would be a better picture. | So blu-rays etc are all completely new rescans of the original film footage?
My first question maybe should have been:
Are all these old movies being released on blu-ray really HD or are they upscaled/upconvertions of the DVD?
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24-06-2008, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by onefivenine So blu-rays etc are all completely new rescans of the original film footage?
My first question maybe should have been:
Are all these old movies being released on blu-ray really HD or are they upscaled/upconvertions of the DVD? | Yep! they go back to the master and transfer it at the highest quaility it can handel
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Originally Posted by onefivenine So blu-rays etc are all completely new rescans of the original film footage?
My first question maybe should have been:
Are all these old movies being released on blu-ray really HD or are they upscaled/upconvertions of the DVD? | They are remastered at a resolution even higher than Blu Ray....4k. But I think that the old films contain too much grain most of the time. Sometimes they try to remove the grain as well. Die Hard is probably great, but back to the 70's, and you start to get some iffy looking images. Not in all films however, because Star Wars A New Hope is one of the best quality HD images around.
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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton They are remastered at a resolution even higher than Blu Ray....4k. But I think that the old films contain too much grain most of the time. Sometimes they try to remove the grain as well. Die Hard is probably great, but back to the 70's, and you start to get some iffy looking images. Not in all films however, because Star Wars A New Hope is one of the best quality HD images around. | Christ man you always start on this!! grain is part of the film get over it, it doesn't mean you get any less stunning images! And to brand everything pre 70's as 'iffy' is completely wrong!
To the orginal poster, DVD downgrades the original master as it cannot handle the resolution of the original master no matter howold the print. Blu ray get's you closer to the original master so therefore higher resolution closer to the original cinematic experience.
Lose the words upscaled and downscaled they have absolutely no place in the transfer of high resolution disc.
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Originally Posted by onefivenine So blu-rays etc are all completely new rescans of the original film footage?
My first question maybe should have been:
Are all these old movies being released on blu-ray really HD or are they upscaled/upconvertions of the DVD? | No.
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Originally Posted by lancerumbolt Christ man you always start on this!! grain is part of the film get over it, it doesn't mean you get any less stunning images! And to brand everything pre 70's as 'iffy' is completely wrong!
To the orginal poster, DVD downgrades the original master as it cannot handle the resolution of the original master no matter howold the print. Blu ray get's you closer to the original master so therefore higher resolution closer to the original cinematic experience.
Lose the words upscaled and downscaled they have absolutely no place in the transfer of high resolution disc. | The ignore list is your friend.
The only time I see Pincho's drivel now is when it's quoted and I quickly fly past that knowing it will not be any use.
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Originally Posted by lancerumbolt Christ man you always start on this!! grain is part of the film get over it, it doesn't mean you get any less stunning images! And to brand everything pre 70's as 'iffy' is completely wrong!
To the orginal poster, DVD downgrades the original master as it cannot handle the resolution of the original master no matter howold the print. Blu ray get's you closer to the original master so therefore higher resolution closer to the original cinematic experience.
Lose the words upscaled and downscaled they have absolutely no place in the transfer of high resolution disc. | You have to give an honest answer in a thread that might be read by the general public. Only film enthusiasts are interested in grain, and I write for all readers. The OP asked what the picture of old movies will look like, so I told them. No ********ting about how 4k is the higher res fantastic image that it's been written as by you guys.
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Originally Posted by Hugh The ignore list is your friend.
The only time I see Pincho's drivel now is when it's quoted and I quickly fly past that knowing it will not be any use. |
I don't know, I guess I get some perverse joy from reading Pincho's posts!
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Originally Posted by lancerumbolt
I don't know, I guess I get some perverse joy from reading Pincho's posts! | We have had screenshots that prove I am right, so I don't know why anybody criticizes me. Is anybody actually saying that old films don't contain grain?
Jaws?
An American Werewolf In London?
Close Encounters?
If the OP likes grain they can still buy the films.
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The seating distance thing is quite annoying. Yeah it looks great from 20ft away.. so does my ex!!!.  Snowflakes come from another dimension!
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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton You have to give an honest answer in a thread that might be read by the general public. Only film enthusiasts are interested in grain, and I write for all readers. The OP asked what the picture of old movies will look like, so I told them. No ********ting about how 4k is the higher res fantastic image that it's been written as by you guys. | The trouble is it's not an honest answer, it's opinion.
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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton We have had screenshots that prove I am right, so I don't know why anybody criticizes me. Is anybody actually saying that old films don't contain grain? | No they don't say that, grain is there it is PART of film.
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Originally Posted by lancerumbolt No they don't say that, grain is there it is PART of film. | Which the OP can decide for them self. My post doesn't take your opinion away. It just makes the opinion more clear.
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Originally Posted by pincho Paxton which The Op Can Decide For Them Self. My Post Doesn't Take Your Opinion Away. It Just Makes The Opinion More Clear. | Ookaayy
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