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Old 26-03-2008, 7:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

okay so blurays versions has a bit rate of 640kbps, so what bit rate is the HD-DVD versions, and is it better?

i bought the 5 disc bluray last year but also own a xe1 hd dvd player.

just wanted to know if the sound is better so i can get the 5 disc hd dvd set before it becomes deleated

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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

The US Blu-Ray has True HD.
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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

I am not sure if the US releases differed from the UK releases, but here are the specs on the both the US Blu-ray and US HD-DVD versions

HD-DVD:
Technical Specs
* HD DVD/DVD
* HD-30 Dual-Layer Discs/DVD-9 Dual-Layer Discs
* Five-Disc Set
Video Resolution/Codec
* 1080p/VC-1
* 480p/i/MPEG-2 (Supplements Only)
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* 2.40:1
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* English Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround (48kHz/16-bit)
* English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)
* French Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)

For the Blu-ray version:
Technical Specs
* Blu-ray/DVD
* BD-50 Dual-Layer Discs/DVD-9 Dual-Layer Discs
* Five-Disc Set
Video Resolution/Codec
* 1080p/VC-1
* 480p/i/MPEG-2 (Supplements Only)
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* 2.40:1
Audio Formats
* English Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround (48kHz/16-bit)
* English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)
* French Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (640kbps)

They look the same to me - both have Dolby TrueHD.
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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

So, to answer your question...No, you wont get any better sound by getting the HD-DVD version.
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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

On both HD-DVD and Blu-ray the new cut of Blade Runner has a TrueHD track but the 4 other cuts on HD-DVD have DD+ tracks whereas the same 4 cuts on Blu-ray only have DD.
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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

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On both HD-DVD and Blu-ray the new cut of Blade Runner has a TrueHD track but the 4 other cuts on HD-DVD have DD+ tracks whereas the same 4 cuts on Blu-ray only have DD.
Yep...HD-DVD is DD+, Bluray is just DD
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Yep...HD-DVD is DD+, Bluray is just DD
Um...they're both at the same bitrate though. I very much doubt that they sound any different.
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Um...they're both at the same bitrate though. I very much doubt that they sound any different.
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Um...they're both at the same bitrate though. I very much doubt that they sound any different.
Probaley true, thought I would just clear up the confusion.
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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

yes i knew the final cut had dolby true hd thanks

i was refering to the other discs

the thing is, does anyone actually know what bit rate is the DD PLUS track

i think its like 1.5mb minimum!!!

the thing that people are confused with is that via digital/optical output it down samples to DD at max bit rate of 640kbps...

same if you chose true HD, you will only "get" 640kbps in to your decoder...

anyways i just thought there was a real way of knowing how to see what bit rate the hd dvd versions is.#

furthermore i would add that if you have a XA1 or A1 hd dvd player it will be 24bit DTS at 1.5mb output from the digital coax!!!

so that converts DD pluss and true HD to 24 bit DTS!!
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Re: Blade Runner:Audio, BluRay (dolby digital) VS HD-DVD (dolby digital PLUS)

*Sigh* Universal are known for their 1.5mbps DD+ encodes, but Warners have persisted with low bitrate DD+ encodes and have never (to my knowledge) gone beyond 640kbps. Do a search for a few reviews from American sites (I would link to some but they'd be removed by the mods) and ye shall soon see the light.
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All Warner titles on HD DVD with DD+ are encoded @640 Kbps and NOT 1.5 Mbps.
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