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Old 28-07-2007, 8:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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On August 28th, Paramount will ship its first high definition title to include a lossless or uncompressed soundtrack - 'Blades of Glory'. This title will feature a PCM 5.1 soundtrack for the Blu-ray release, but will feature no equivalent on the HD DVD, presumably because of the smaller disc capacity.

Two weeks later, Paramount will ship 'Face/Off' with extras features available in high definition, but only on the Blu-ray version, again due to space constraints.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=360

Shocking! Space constraints??
This is real unacceptable from Paramount and extremely disappointing for the loyal HD-DVD crowd. Most of which were early adopters.

I feel real sorry for them. But with Space constraints the reasons given on HD-DVD, I am afraid there's probably more of this to come!

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Re: Substandard HD-DVD releases from Paramount!!

Are you employed by the BDA?

Where do you find the time to post this stuff?
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Old 28-07-2007, 8:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Substandard HD-DVD releases from Paramount!!

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Are you employed by the BDA?

Where do you find the time to post this stuff?
We are all HD brothers here!
Honestly, I post something about BD I get flamed, I post something about HD-DVD I get flamed! It's not as if I am making all this up!

Anyway, the point I am trying to make here is that the space contraint issue is valid according to a studio that is supporting both formats. Really dissapointing! What the hell are Paramount doing??
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Re: Substandard HD-DVD releases from Paramount!!

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On August 28th, Paramount will ship its first high definition title to include a lossless or uncompressed soundtrack - 'Blades of Glory'. This title will feature a PCM 5.1 soundtrack for the Blu-ray release, but will feature no equivalent on the HD DVD, presumably because of the smaller disc capacity.
The HD DVD includes a Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround track according to HighDefDigest.

Personally I don't mind PCM or TrueHD (and I'll even take DTS-HD MA for long term benefit) but it's the compressed lossless audio that will be the better option long term if things start going down the 'transport' route as Denon have announced - read Nick's comments on the High Def forum
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The HD DVD includes a Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround track according to HighDefDigest.

Personally I don't mind PCM or TrueHD (and I'll even take DTS-HD MA for long term benefit) but it's the compressed lossless audio that will be the better option long term if things start going down the 'transport' route as Denon have announced - read Nick's comments on the High Def forum
Well, let's hope so. Hi Def Digest have been wrong before.

Any news of why extras are missing from Face-off??
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We are all HD brothers here!
Honestly, I post something about BD I get flamed, I post something about HD-DVD I get flamed! It's not as if I am making all this up!
Why are 100% of your posts about Sony products and in favour of Sony products, or about competitor products with a negative spin?
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Old 28-07-2007, 9:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well according to DVD Times ( who are always spot on in press releases)
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=64972
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Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the US Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD release of Blades of Glory on 28th August 2007. In this comedy, bitter figure skating rivals Chazz Michael Michaels (Will Ferrell) and Jimmy MacElroy (Jon Heder) brawl after tying for the gold medal at the world championships. Banned for life from men’s competition, these archrivals beat the system thanks to a loophole that allows them skate again – in pars; competition! The film also stars Crag T. Nelson, Will Arnett, Amy Poehler and Jenna Fischer.

Arriving day-and-date with the DVD release, extras match the DVD release and include:
Return to Glory: The Making of "Blades" (HD)
Celebrities On Thin Ice (HD)
Cooler Than Ice: The Super-Sexy Costumes of Skating (HD)
Arnett and Poehler - A Family Affair (HD)
20 Questions with Scott Hamilton (HD)
Hector: Portrait of a Psychofan (HD)
Moviephone unscripted with Will Ferrell, Jon Heder and Will Arnett
Deleted Scenes (HD)
Alternate Takes (HD)
Gag Reel (HD)
Photo Gallery
Music Video "Blades of Glory" by Bo Bice
MTV Interstitials

The main feature will be presented in 1080P Widescreen with English, French and Spanish 5.1 audio (Dolby Digital on Blu-ray Disc, Dolby Digital Plus on HD DVD)

and English, English SDH, French, Portuguese and Spanish subtitles.

An English 5.1 Uncompressed PCM track will also be featured on the Blu-ray Disc release.
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So we have to wait and see.

And if you search for Face Off HD news in the same site, you will find that extras have been left out of the HD-DVD version!

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Why are 100% of your posts about Sony products and in favour of Sony products, or about competitor products with a negative spin?
Spin is something which is NOT fact or facts been twisted. I just simply point out offical info and want to debate it.
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Why are you so one sided?

So far nearly EVERY Paramount elease has had a inferior sound mix on BD, they have all had DD at 640k, the HD DVD version has had DD Plus at 1.5M

All your fan boy mates have complained about it!.

Now you finally get PCM and you try to steer down HD DVD, which is still getting a True HD mix!

Stop spreading misinformation!

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Don't get so upset by it Adam! It's quite amusing all things said and done. Especially when it's wrong.
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Are you a total fool, why are you so one sided?

So far nearly EVERY Paramount elease has had a inferior sound mix on BD, they have all had DD at 640k, the HD DVD version has had DD Plus at 1.5M

All your fan boy mates have complained about it!.

Now you finally get PCM and you try to steer down HD DVD, which is still getting a True HD mix!

Stop spreading misinformation!
Well it's true Paramount were short changing BD releases before, however it was never because of space-constraints. Which to me is an a poor reason.

The TrueHD sound might be true. Although I can't find a press release confirming this. And extras are missing from Face-off. Paramount are citing space constraints for this reason!
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I need to calm down

I think if he is proven wrong he should leave these forums never to return!
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Well it's true Paramount were short changing BD releases before, however it was never because of space-constraints. Which to me is an a poor reason.

The TrueHD sound might be true. Although I can't find a press release confirming this. And extras are missing from Face-off. Paramount are citing space constraints for this reason!
What are you talking about- its a 2 disc release on both formats what mssing extras?

Ah a HD trailer big loss, if it even turns out to be true!

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And extras are missing from Face-off. Paramount are citing space constraints for this reason!
EDIT: Seems it's a two disc Special Edition on the HD DVD
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I just simply point out offical info and want to debate it.
And your official info (with pre-added spin) comes from Blu-ray.com

Do you not see a problem with that?
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