[Martian Phil]

Looking forward to this - quite liked the stallone one, despite the flaws, cos it looked good (for the most part).

But please no "comedy relief" (that also means no Maria the landlady and definately no Walter the Wobot )

[MJeeves]

I too can't say I disliked the first 1995 version of "JUDGE DREDD".

It was well done and looked great (especially Diane Lane in Hershey's outfit!) and the action was fine. The ABC robot stole the show for me though and should have been used more.

The fact is... it broke so many Judge Dredd-isms. I mean the removal of the helmet, the Diane Lane love-interest, the annoying comic relief dude... It was good in places and dire in others.

Hopefully, they'll get it right this time.

[brian s]

Originally Posted by MJeeves

I too can't say I disliked the first 1995 version of "JUDGE DREDD".

It wasn't a bad film in it self but it was dreadful Dredd. Any new version should stick to the rules.

Bri

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by brian s

It wasn't a bad film in it self but it was dreadful Dredd. Any new version should stick to the rules.

Bri

or it's off to the Cursed Earth as a penance........

[raigraphixs]

Judge Dredd" script a mixture of "Die Hard" and "Blade Runner"


A review of the script says the film will be dark and gritty.

"Imagine 'Die Hard' taking place within the world of 'Blade Runner;' that’s the 'Judge Dredd' script offered by Alex Garland," "Clocking in at 110 pages, this is not the most complex or plot heavy story. What is offered is a high-octaine, action filled screenplay, that is both hardcore and gritty."

According to the unidentified reviewer, "Judge Dredd" focuses on the titular Dredd as he takes rookie Cassandra Anderson through a night filled with routine bad guy busting assignments. But things take a turn for the worse when Dredd and Anderson find themselves on the run from the Ma-Ma Clang.

"It's a very action heavy script with some amazing sequences that will make any Dredd fan happy," the reviewer states. "This is a gritty film that plays the world we are in as a realistic future, a very dark, unpleasant crime ridden world as Dredd explains: 'Twelve serious crimes reported every minute. Seventeen thousand per day. We respond to around six percent.' The famous 'I am the law' makes a few appearances."

[raigraphixs]

Rumor - Karl Urban (Star Trek) may be cast as the mouth of Judge Dredd - as part of the film clause - he will not be allowed to remove the helmet.

[brian s]

Originally Posted by raigraphixs

Rumor - Karl Urban (Star Trek) may be cast as the mouth of Judge Dredd - as part of the film clause - he will not be allowed to remove the helmet.

Quite right too, make no bones about it.

Bri

[max222]

Originally Posted by brian s

Quite right too, make no bones about it.

Bri

very good.

and wasn't he excellent as "bones" too. To the point DeForest Kelly would probably have approved.

If he is J.D I'll be pleased (bearing in mind Clint is too old).

[robcat101]

Originally Posted by MJeeves

I think much of the problem for the first Judge Dredd film in 1995 was that it was billed as a big budget blockbuster, but... outside of the UK not enough people knew of Judge Dredd. The film did O.K. business in the UK (despite a critical pounding), but it was in the US etc that the film lost most of it's money. They just ain't into Dredd out there, and I don't think that has changed.

I think it's a bit of a vicious circle with Dredd. Because there isn't a huge US fanbase like there is for Batman/Superman etc they need to attach big names to the project in order to get a decent budget and publicity - then the big names end up messing up the production i.e. they won't keep helmet on, and insist they water down the darker, ironic elements of the Dredd story - and so it becomes just another action movie. This is pretty much what apparently went wrong with the Danny Cannon/Stallone film.

The interesting thing is that we have recently had Watchmen - which although the comic was popular in the US it was hardly mainstream. Plus it got a large budget without big names and the movie largely kept the tone and character of the graphic novel. Only problem is that it did OK, but not brilliantly at the box office so I'd imagine the studios would be quite nervous about throwing $100m at another Dredd movie.

[max222]

Originally Posted by robcat101

I think it's a bit of a vicious circle with Dredd. Because there isn't a huge US fanbase like there is for Batman/Superman etc they need to attach big names to the project in order to get a decent budget and publicity - then the big names end up messing up the production i.e. they won't keep helmet on, and insist they water down the darker, ironic elements of the Dredd story - and so it becomes just another action movie. This is pretty much what apparently went wrong with the Danny Cannon/Stallone film.

The interesting thing is that we have recently had Watchmen - which although the comic was popular in the US it was hardly mainstream. Plus it got a large budget without big names and the movie largely kept the tone and character of the graphic novel. Only problem is that it did OK, but not brilliantly at the box office so I'd imagine the studios would be quite nervous about throwing $100m at another Dredd movie.

Exactly - and that's why I really liked Watchmen so much. I can't imagine so much being spent on Dredd. So lets hope they can do wonders with a limited budget - its been done before - wasnt Aliens budget quite limited at the time for instance? Anyway having recently watched the Stallone Dredd again there are some good bits in it. The ABC Warrior is superb. Judge Hershey is very good and Mean Machine also very well realised. I could have done without the "comedy" sidekick they introduced, Stallone should never have removed his helmet (his chin was right in fact) but he was a bit too stocky and short and frankly just not Clint Eastwood enough in manner.

[brian s]

Originally Posted by max222

very good.

and wasn't he excellent as "bones" too. To the point DeForest Kelly would probably have approved.

He was one of the few things I liked about the film.

Originally Posted by max222

Anyway having recently watched the Stallone Dredd again there are some good bits in it. The ABC Warrior is superb. Judge Hershey is very good and Mean Machine also very well realised. I could have done without the "comedy" sidekick they introduced, Stallone should never have removed his helmet (his chin was right in fact) but he was a bit too stocky and short and frankly just not Clint Eastwood enough in manner.

I agree Stallone's chin was very good and the JD film wasn't all bad.

Bri

[raigraphixs]

Karl has confirmed he's involved in talks.

YouTube - Karl Urban on Comic Con 2010 Judge Dredd Rumor

[MJeeves]

Originally Posted by max222

Exactly - and that's why I really liked Watchmen so much. I can't imagine so much being spent on Dredd. So lets hope they can do wonders with a limited budget - its been done before - wasnt Aliens budget quite limited at the time for instance? Anyway having recently watched the Stallone Dredd again there are some good bits in it. The ABC Warrior is superb. Judge Hershey is very good and Mean Machine also very well realised. I could have done without the "comedy" sidekick they introduced, Stallone should never have removed his helmet (his chin was right in fact) but he was a bit too stocky and short and frankly just not Clint Eastwood enough in manner.

I agree... Diane Lane as Judge Hershey and the ABC Robot were the best things about the 1995 film. Teh comic sidekick was the worst.

[captainarchive]

Originally Posted by robcat101

The interesting thing is that we have recently had Watchmen - which although the comic was popular in the US it was hardly mainstream. Plus it got a large budget without big names and the movie largely kept the tone and character of the graphic novel. Only problem is that it did OK, but not brilliantly at the box office so I'd imagine the studios would be quite nervous about throwing $100m at another Dredd movie.

The problem with Watchman is it stuck so closely to the comic it wasn't a very good film. I would have liked a director to have taken the characters, ideas and themes of the comic and made them into a film rather than simply shoot the comic panel by panel. The comic is multilayered and examines several aspects of the comicbook genre and american history during the war/cold war period. The film however doesn't examine any of these themes in any way, it merely renders the comic panels on screen and ends up being very superficial. The same could be said for 300.

[sh18]

Really hope this turns out well. Ive only just started to slowly (very slowly)get into Dredd. A guy at work has been lending me the Batman/Dredd stories which have gotten me more interested in Dredd as a character. I guess my only point of reference before this was the Stallone movie so it came as a surprise how brutal Dredd can be in the books.

Will be getting volume 1 of the complete case files so I can start at the beginning and hopefully slowly work my way up from there.

[brian s]

Karl Urban has been confirmed as the actor to don the helmet of Judge Dredd and that helmet will stay on throughout the film.

Karl Urban Confirmed For Judge Dredd

Bri

[BenchyUK]

Good choice. I'm a fan of Karl Urban

[J1mbo]

He doesn't really seem to have the chin for it? No?

[Joe Pineapples]

Originally Posted by J1mbo

He doesn't really seem to have the chin for it? No?

Depends which version they're basing it on (if any). The earliest dredd was more johnny depp than desperate dan.

[robcat101]

I'm cautiously positive on this one! Urban is probably a good choice as he's not too much of a name so as to interfere with the production and it sounds like the producers seem to want to take it in the right direction and tone. We shall see...

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by Joe Pineapples

Depends which version they're basing it on (if any). The earliest dredd was more johnny depp than desperate dan.

Indeed he was less "chunky" all round

I like the idea that the District 9 team will be involved, big fan of the film, would be visually good for a Dredd film

[raigraphixs]

According to reports IMGlobal company is currently selling the 3-D "Judge Dredd" reboot at the Toronto Film Festival, but calling the movie Dredd.

"Dredd" takes us to the wild streets of Mega City One, the lone oasis of quasi-civilization on Cursed Earth. Judge Dredd is the most feared of elite Street Judges, with the power to enforce the law, sentence offenders and execute them on the spot - if necessary.

Actress Olivia Thirlby has joined the cast of Dredd

Thirlby will play Judge Cassandra Anderson, a psychically powered rookie Judge who teams with Judge Joe Dredd (Karl Urban) for training. In the Judge Dredd comic book, Anderson goes on to lead the city's Psi Division, maintaining an uneasy friendship with Dredd.

[KiLLiNG-TiME]

Originally Posted by raigraphixs

Actress Olivia Thirlby has joined the cast of Dredd

She'd better get some hair dye!

[captainarchive]

Originally Posted by J1mbo

He doesn't really seem to have the chin for it? No?

When Jack Nicholson got the part of the Joker he didn't have the chin for it either. I agree with you though.

[MrBlofeldt]

The thing about Dredd is there are so many good story lines to choose from, The Apocalypse War, The Judge child, The Cursed Earth, The Chopper Stories and my particular favourite, Judge Death...

I really hope they do a Judge Death storyline...

[MrBlofeldt]

incidentally...

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=28830

[MrBlofeldt]

and...

(caution... spoilers...possibly)

The Playlist: Details: Alex Garland's 'Judge Dredd' Script Is (Shocker) Dark & Gritty

[raigraphixs]

Originally Posted by MrBlofeldt

and...

(caution... spoilers...possibly)

The Playlist: Details: Alex Garland's 'Judge Dredd' Script Is (Shocker) Dark & Gritty

post #65 (July) above, but without the spoilers

[LanceR]

Short interview with Karl Urban for the soon to be shooting and in 3D Judge Dredd.

Exclusive: Karl Urban Talks Dredd

I liked the original it's a guilty pleasure but ultimately it was a missed opportunity. I'm glad they hd Judge Hershey in it but she was a different character to the comic books. Diane Lane was brilliant though.

I'm starting to look forward to this.

[MJeeves]

Originally Posted by LanceR

Diane Lane was brilliant though.

Yep. I agree. Diane Lane as Hershey and the ABC Robot were the highlights of the 1995 Judge Dredd.