[featherhall]

due to the 'quite frankly' disgraceful news that Peter Jackson is not to return to Tolkien country and direct 'The Hobbit'
I saw this petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/hobnow/petition.html

if you feel strongly about it, I would urge as many as possible to sign it.

It HAS to be Peter. He wants to do it, and the likes of Sir Ian can't believe he is being overlooked.

[raigraphixs]

done

[Miniholic]

Signed, thanks.

For anyone who wants to know more, you can read a statement from Peter Jackson over on TORn.

http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1163993546.html

EDIT:

Just spotted this.

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/1/1164235638

It's rumoured that Sam Raimi has been approached.

[raigraphixs]

anyone apart from uwe boll, and paul anderson .

[Sonic67]

Well he did some wonderful things with LOTR and some dodgy things too.

Arwen nearly became Xena Warrior Princess. Why did she go out and meet them instead of Glorfindel? I thought as I watching things are getting bad if Elrond has sent his daughter out to face ring wraiths.

At Helms Deep Elves turn up (So what does that make the 'Last Alliance' then?). Aragon falls off a cliff and is almost killed. Faramir is another evil human and a clone of his brother. Merry never gets to the Black Gate at the end.

There's a huge amount of differences. On the whole I liked the films but there's a lot of things I felt should have been left alone.

[raigraphixs]

some interesting news!!!!


From IMDB

As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films.

A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us.

And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)



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[lovemunkey187]

Originally Posted by featherhall

It HAS to be Peter. He wants to do it, and the likes of Sir Ian can't believe he is being overlooked.

Why does it HAVE to be PJ?

Yes he did a fair enough job on LOTR but as has been pointed out on afew other forums The Hobbit is an entirely different animal. Not least of which it being aimed at a younger audience than the subsequent books.

I am not saying that PJ would be incapable of directing this but, that someone else could do it more justice.

The man put 7-odd years of blood sweat and tears into that project. He should pass the torch to someone else(think what GL did to the prequels), besides I want him to do a follow up to Bad Taste.

I don't know who I would choose as an alternative, although if painted into a corner I'd put forward Guillermo Del Toro. But I'm not 100%that he'd be the right choice.

[featherhall]

Originally Posted by lovemunkey187

Why does it HAVE to be PJ?

Yes he did a fair enough job on LOTR but as has been pointed out on afew other forums The Hobbit is an entirely different animal. Not least of which it being aimed at a younger audience than the subsequent books.

have you looked at the extras on the LOTR extended versions ?? one viewing of them and it will be apparent why.

I am not saying that PJ would be incapable of directing this but, that someone else could do it more justice.
Who would you recommend, that would devote as much love / application and talent to this project ?

The man put 7-odd years of blood sweat and tears into that project. He should pass the torch to someone else(think what GL did to the prequels), besides I want him to do a follow up to Bad Taste.
7 years - yes, and he loved every minute of it. Comparing him to George Lucas is very harsh. Coppolla with Godfather 3 ?? Do you honestly think he would make The Hobbit into a mess ? there is no way.

I don't know who I would choose as an alternative, although if painted into a corner I'd put forward Guillermo Del Toro. But I'm not 100%that he'd be the right choice.
please tell me your joking ? Hellboy 2 and Blade 2 does not put him in a very good light

its all about opinions, of course. but PJ has said he would love to do it and I think its sad it looks like he wont.

[Shoka]

Featherall - Go see Pans Labyrinth, it will totally change your opinion of Del toro. His earlier films are good as well check out Cronos. If he were to direct it it would be a hell of a lot darker.

[Sonic67]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6251099.stm

Jackson ruled out of Hobbit film

New Line co-chairman Bob Shaye told the Sci-Fi Wire that Jackson would never make The Hobbit "during my watch".

[Miniholic]

Well, they'd better hurry up and make it before they lose the rights then.

[Sonic67]

Does that mean someone else will get the rights and we might get two films?

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by raigraphixs

some interesting news!!!!


From IMDB

As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films.

A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us.

And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)



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I'm confused. Why is everyone ignoring this news? Is this a different Hobbit? If Peter Jackson makes it then it will still be a good Hobbit film.

[Miniholic]

That was mentioned by Raigraphixs earlier in this thread, hence my comment. I'm not sure when New Line's option ends, if indeed this is the case.

[robyoung]

From what i remember.. (please don't take this as gospel)
New Line have the rights of the Hobbitt until 2008 sometime, then they will go back to their original owner Zaentz. New line will not employ PJ because of their legal wranglings but Zaentz like the rest of us believes they should. Also some one also has the distribution rights but can't recall who. :-) as clear as mud.
Rob

[JohnG]

I'm probably the only person in the World who's going to say this I found the Lord Of The Rings films over-long and quite tedious so was hoping that the Hobbit would be treated differently. Not wanting to offend any fans of LOTR, just expressing a personal view of it.

[Miniholic]

Originally Posted by JohnG

I'm probably the only person in the World who's going to say this I found the Lord Of The Rings films over-long and quite tedious

How very dare you.

I'm a fan of the films, and the books, but have to agree you have to be in the right mood to watch them. Especially the EE's.

The Hobbit is a much lighter read the the LOTR books, so I would imagine that the film version would follow this vein too.

Just a shame they didn't tackle The Hobbit first, as it could have been used to break-in the non-believers.

[JohnG]

Originally Posted by Miniholic

Just a shame they didn't tackle The Hobbit first, as it could have been used to break-in the non-believers.

Good point, it might have been a gentle introduction for people like me

[Pincho Paxton]

The only thing I don't like about LOTR is the shakesperian English that they use during the film. Horrible accent. I nearly didn't buy it.

[bosque]

Shakespearian English ? They speak in Tolkien English, as in the guy who wrote the source novels - unless you mean speaking with an Oxford accent, which I don't think they do, surely ? Sean Bean, for example, speaks with a Northern accent.

[JohnG]

Sean Bean speaks with a Sean Bean accent, in whatever role he playes doesn't he ?

[Miniholic]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The only thing I don't like about LOTR is the shakesperian English that they use during the film. Horrible accent. I nearly didn't buy it.

You don't mind the black bars then?

Originally Posted by JohnG

Sean Bean speaks with a Sean Bean accent, in whatever role he playes doesn't he ?

I hear that Sheffield folk do get about a bit.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Miniholic

You don't mind the black bars then?

I hear that Sheffield folk do get about a bit.

Yeah I hate the black bars, I zoomed it in, but it went pixely, so I watched it with black bars. So I had to watch it with black bars, and Shakesperian English.. (Theatrical prononciation) so it was very hard to forget that it was theatrical nearly all the way through the film for 9 hours. How anyone can get lost in this theatrical world, I don't know. I need real life comparisons to get into a film.

[bowenjones]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I need real life comparisons to get into a film.

Like the comparison between green and brown?

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by bowenjones

Like the comparison between green and brown?

Like true life colours.. yes.

[Sonic67]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The only thing I don't like about LOTR is the shakesperian English that they use during the film. Horrible accent. I nearly didn't buy it.

Gandalfs voice is modelled on Tolkiens own. It was Sir Ian McKellens tribute to him.

[rebel_scum]

Pincho Paxton Wrote:Yeah I hate the black bars, I zoomed it in, but it went pixely, so I watched it with black bars.

People like you, should have your equipment confiscated. No, really. If you're watching movies zoomed in, because of the EVIL BLACK BARS, then you are a philestine, with no comprehesion of film what so ever, and should effectively be consigned to watching pan & scan VHS, for eternity. I'm not being snobby, but there's just certain things that you DON'T DO!!

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by rebel_scum

People like you, should have your equipment confiscated. No, really. If you're watching movies zoomed in, because of the EVIL BLACK BARS, then you are a philestine, with no comprehesion of film what so ever, and should effectively be consigned to watching pan & scan VHS, for eternity. I'm not being snobby, but there's just certain things that you DON'T DO!!

Not getting into black bars again. I have solved the problem with them, now I just need to get the companies to get rid of them.

[Eliot]

Originally Posted by Sonic67

Well he did some wonderful things with LOTR and some dodgy things too.

Arwen nearly became Xena Warrior Princess. Why did she go out and meet them instead of Glorfindel? I thought as I watching things are getting bad if Elrond has sent his daughter out to face ring wraiths.

At Helms Deep Elves turn up (So what does that make the 'Last Alliance' then?). Aragon falls off a cliff and is almost killed. Faramir is another evil human and a clone of his brother. Merry never gets to the Black Gate at the end.

There's a huge amount of differences. On the whole I liked the films but there's a lot of things I felt should have been left alone.

i totally agree with hekms deep elves, i loved the opportunity ot see elves fight

[quarry2006]

Hey, leave those black bars alone!

I wouldn't die in a ditch over Rings. Read the book and halfway through I just wanted it to end; saw the films and thought the battle scenes were very samey. Overall, though, it's as enduring a tale as Star Wars and is the very best of that particular genre.

I think out of respect Jackson should have been given first refusal. As I've read, though, Bob Shaye said he'd never direct it on his "watch". I know McKellen was disappointed Jackson wasn't doing it so if this story about Saul Zaentz is true, all to the better.

One thing, though, when's Jackson going to do some original material? We've had King Kong, now he's doing the Dam Busters I hear...where's the new stuff? I'd like to see him return to horror, the genre he started with.