Any Own The New Seat Leon FR?

[delboyuk2005uk]

I will be buying one of these cars next year.

I am leaning towards the TDI FR version as it does the better mpg. Now with diesel being more expensive than petroel should I re think and go for the petreol version?

My commute to work and back is around 50 miles every day 5 days an week. This is manily motorway miles also say 40/50 miles are motorway.

So what am basically asking is if any one got the TDI and TSI version how many miles do you get out of a full tank? Also what kind of driving do you do?

[Lezman]

I've had one since March this year (TDi FR).

I do around 20 each way to work every day on the motorway and get around 43 mpg (I drive fairly reasonably- not much flooring of the pedal, 75 mph).

If I do a long drive (100+ miles) I get around 50mpg driving nicely.

On average I get 470-500 miles out of a tank, 80% smart driving and 20% flooring it (that torque is just too much fun).

So pretty similar to you in terms of day to day stuff.

[SteveTDCI]

have a look on seatcuprsnet, i think the 2.0t gives around 28mpg. The 170 seems to suffer from the DPF issue so if you do lots of stop start stuff then you might want to consider something else. Or custom code are developing a DPF + remap claimed to give a little over 220bhp which sounds fun !

[delboyuk2005uk]

Well looks like 28mpg is out of the question for the TSI model then. I get about 380-400 miles out my Focus 1.6 zetec now, So would not want to do less than that per tank really.

[delboyuk2005uk]

Whats an DPF issue?

[BIG ARG]

The DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter. Basicaly it collects the soot then using the engine power ie more fuel. Heats the DPF to burn the soot away. Problems have been known if the regeneration phase is not carried out properly. You have to keep the engine running at a higher limit than normal. I think about 2500 rev for approx 20 mins ( Or go for an extended drive home, burning more fuel). If this is not done the DPF sends the engine into limp home mode. And best of all Seat will not cover this under warranty as you have failed to carry out the proper maintenance. And it's not cheap. It is one of the things putting me of getting one off these cars. And I really like them and would easily be able to carry out the regeneration phase. But think of having to explain that to somone when you try and sell the car later.
Seat have no info as to when the next generation of Common rail engines are coming either. At a guess it would be when the next Leon comes out.

Some info maybe slightly technically incorrect but I hope it gives you a better understanding. Check out the Seat forums for more info.

SEAT Forum : SEAT Enthusiasts • View forum - Leon Mk2

Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF) : Diesel particulate filters - The AA

[Lezman]

I thought Seat covered the DPF?

Must say I've never seen the light coming on either way.

[SteveTDCI]

I think the DPF is classed as a service part and whilst sometimes they will help clean the filter they won't cover the cost of replacing it. It also has a life span and needs replacing at a certain mileage. REmoving it will make all of the issues go away !

[delboyuk2005uk]

Originally Posted by Lezman

I thought Seat covered the DPF?

Must say I've never seen the light coming on either way.

What do you think of the leon you got an mini review

[Lezman]

I really like it. The torque and handling are great (or I think they are anyway, I haven't driven other fast cars to compare).
The ride is quite hard, which I like as it makes it fun to drive but the missus complains when in the passenger seat as she gets thrown around a little
The seats are nice and snug I think they are brilliant and I've done 400 odd miles in a day and not had any problems.

The cons are you can tell that the build quality is lower when compared to the golf/A3 (but it is way cheaper). The road noise on the motorway is quite intrusive although no problems if you turn the music up.

The only really annoying thing is that I get condensation build up on the inside of the windscreen when left overnight. If it then freezes scraping ice of the inside of you car is less than amusing. But thats really the only complaint I have, and that is null if you have a garage.

[delboyuk2005uk]

Maybe your windscreen aint fitted perfectly, get that looked at.

What colour is yours I cant see pass the red at the moment. Are you happy with the TDI version or do you now wish you got the TSI version instead?

[pbirkett]

Originally Posted by delboyuk2005uk

Well looks like 28mpg is out of the question for the TSI model then. I get about 380-400 miles out my Focus 1.6 zetec now, So would not want to do less than that per tank really.

You should get way more than 28 MPG out of a TSI doing the kind of decent runs that you are saying. Probably more like 40++ MPG, TBH.

[SteveTDCI]

I get 45 + on long runs out of my TDi general use it seems the TFSi struggles to get into the thirties. If you go on seatcupranet most of them have a mpg indicator in there signitures thats worked out from fuel put in

[Lezman]

Originally Posted by delboyuk2005uk

Maybe your windscreen aint fitted perfectly, get that looked at.

What colour is yours I cant see pass the red at the moment. Are you happy with the TDI version or do you now wish you got the TSI version instead?

Yeah I will do, I do think its a fault with the windscreen. Mine's a company car so will give the dealer a call this week.

I have the zenith grey, with the 17 inch wheels. It does look great when clean, but I dearly dearly wish I had gone for the red with the 18 inch wheels.
It just looks brilliant.

Its company, so whilst I would love the TFSI I had no choice but the TDI.

[baldrick]

The condensation issue might be solved by setting the a/c to footwell before you turn the engine off!?!?

I can't comment about the new Leon but I had the old Cupra R and it was a really nice car but got traded in a second of a RenaultSport Clio Trophy.

The crash safety on the old Leon was pretty good, I cart-wheeled one and walked away from it with a couple of bruises!!!!

As far as MPG goes the old car had the 1.8 turbo tuned to 225BHP and it struggled to deliver 30MPG. On a spirited run I could have it down in the teens!!!