[wyze]

Has anyone seen or heard of these remote turbo kits I don't suppose anyone knows where you can buy them or has fitted one?

They are quite big in the US but I was wondering if they worked on smaller engined european cars or they are just suitable for BIGASS v8's and the like?

I've also read that it is quite hard turbocharging a NASP engine and was kind of hoping a remote turbo was the way to go.

[Aerojon]

that is not a turbo ,turbos are bolted to the exhaust manifold..

save your money..

[wyze]

So it's a ripoff then like those electric supercharger kits.

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by Aerojon

that is not a turbo ,turbos are bolted to the exhaust manifold..

save your money..

Unfortunately you're incorrect here.

This IS a turbocharging solution,and in fact this method of turbocharging was used a fair amount in the USA especisally on trucks and suchlike,some years ago.

The difference here is that instead of being bolted to the exhaust manifold,the kit is placed much further back on the exhaust system.
It's still an exhaust driven compressor,and still provides boost,but has a considerable number of problems.

The problems with this sort of kit are....

1.Fitting.
2.Reduced maximum power compared to a kit fitted at the exhaust manifold.
3.Enormous lag due to the compressible volumes in the pipework.
4.Lack of intercooling

etc etc.

In short then,yes it IS a turbo kit,but NO,not a good idea.

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by wyze

Has anyone seen or heard of these remote turbo kits I don't suppose anyone knows where you can buy them or has fitted one?

They are quite big in the US but I was wondering if they worked on smaller engined european cars or they are just suitable for BIGASS v8's and the like?

I've also read that it is quite hard turbocharging a NASP engine and was kind of hoping a remote turbo was the way to go.

Normally aspirated engines can be turbocharged(after all,many turbo engines are simply turbocharged derivatives of NA blocks etc),but there are a lot of things to take into account.

1.Strength of stock block,rods,and crank.
2.Compression ratio and stock piston suitability(forged lower compression pistons may be neccessary).
3.Fitting incl plumbing for air,oil and water.
4.Increased cooling for both oil and water,as increasing your engine's power output = much more heat.
5.Intercooling to cool incoming air from the turbo.
6.Need to remap the ECU to accomadate increased fuelling and air flow.

The list goes on....but if there are already kits developed for your car,this simplifies matters considerably,as someone has already done the development work.

It's not a cheap option,and often not a practical one,when so many engines are already turbocharged.

You may find it much cheaper to look for a car that is already turbo'd.

The remote turbo kit really doesn't solve any of the problems I've listed,and introduces many of it's own....it's a kludge.

[DVD-Man]

I've seen this before, it works in a sort of successful way HOWEVER I'd go with Alex's advice and do the job properly

Twin-Turbo BMW M5 with 815 horsepower - egmCarTech

Liam

[waring192]

Originally Posted by DVD-Man

I've seen this before, it works in a sort of successful way HOWEVER I'd go with Alex's advice and do the job properly

Twin-Turbo BMW M5 with 815 horsepower - egmCarTech

Liam

i could be very wrong but does that m5 not have its turbos near the end of the pipes?

[DVD-Man]

Originally Posted by waring192

i could be very wrong but does that m5 not have its turbos near the end of the pipes?

Yes, weird looking huh, they did manage to get an extra 308hp though for their trouble which isn't too shabby, most likely the V10 that comes in the M5 is shoe horned in so no room to mount turbos hence this approach.

Liam

[waring192]

Originally Posted by DVD-Man

Yes, weird looking huh, they did manage to get an extra 308hp though for their trouble which isn't too shabby, most likely the V10 that comes in the M5 is shoe horned in so no room to mount turbos hence this approach.

Liam

I think im going potty! Sorry i missed the:

I've seen this before, it works in a sort of successful way

Here is me thinking im Sherlock

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by DVD-Man

Yes, weird looking huh, they did manage to get an extra 308hp though for their trouble which isn't too shabby, most likely the V10 that comes in the M5 is shoe horned in so no room to mount turbos hence this approach.

Liam

You can see the problems inherent in remote turbo installations there.....notice the turbo oil feed lines dangling in the breeze,and the miles of pipe leading back to the engine from the turbos.

For that sort of money,it's a shoddy installation to leave something as vital as the oil lines exposed like that....even the wastegate actuators are completely exposed to the elements under that,and the consequences of those getting jammed.....costly.