[onkeh]

So I've completed the game and was looking at the "bonus" items you can purchase in Drebin's shop second time round (you know which ones I mean) and they cost around 3 million points. I was wondering how the heck you're supposed to ever afford these things, considering a gun might get you 1k if you're lucky.

Also, what's the deal with those multiplier values you see after you picked up a weapon? E.g. you might see:

P90: 1500 dp x0.2 x0.8

So you only end up getting 250 dp instead of the full 1500. How does this work and what affects the multipliers?

Thanks in advance.

edit~ and here's the answer, courtesy of JackM

Originally Posted by JackM

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You recieve a DP bonus that is adjusted in accordance with the following criteria;

1. The weapons basic value.

2. The way the Weapon was obtained (see below).

CONDITION-------------------------------------------------------MULTIPLIER

Weapons placed on maps. ----------------------------------------------1
Weapons found during hold-ups and body searches.----------------..-----1
weapons obtained by disarming soldiers with CQC.-----------------...-----1
Weapons dropped by soldiers defeated by anyone other than Snake.------0.3
Weapons of enemies defeated in a cutscene.-----------------------------1
Weapons dropped by soldiers put to sleep or stunned by Snake.-----.-----0.2
Weapons dropped by soldiers killed by Snake.------------------------..---0.1

3. The difficulty level you are playing on (see below).

4. The current Act (see below).

--------LIQUID EASY ----- NAKED NORMAL ----- SOLID NORMAL ----- BIG BOSS HARD ------ THE BOSS EXTREME

ACT 1-------1--------------------1--------------------1---------------------0.8-----------------------0.5
ACT 2-------1--------------------1--------------------1---------------------0.8-----------------------0.5
ACT 3------1.2---------..--------1.2---------.--------1.2--------------------0.95------------------..---0.6
ACT 4------1.5---------..--------1.5---------.--------1.5-------------..------1.2-----------------------0.75
ACT 5-------2--------------------2--------------------2------------.--.--.---1.6------------------------1

The calculation, with 1 representing 100% of the basic weapon value, works in the following way:

Basic sale value x condition multiplier x battlefield multiplier = total

For example, if you obtain a P90 by tranquilizing a Haven Trooper in Advent Palace on Big Boss Hard difficulty level, the maths looks like this:

1,500 DP x 0.2 (soldier stunned) x 0.8 (Big Boss Hard, Act 1) = 240DP

[stuart1976]

When you complete the game you get a Completed save. If you load up a new game from this save your Items, Weapons, and Derebin Points are carried over. When you meet up withthe MkII again it will have all your stuff from the last game.

Play the game through a few times and you can save up the points, or alternatively, you can complete the game certain ways to get the items without having to buy them.

[Paul_T]

You gain multiplyers depending on your performance - number of alerts & continues used will reduce the multiplyer which is awarded at the end of each act.

[onkeh]

I did know that the points roll over, but that's still a monstrous amount of points. Though you do get big chapter bonuses for certain playing methods (20k for no kills, etc), just seems like a wholeeeeee load of playthroughs for something you'd get after just 1 previously.

[jonhuz]

Second play through I'd cleaned Drebin out and am now sitting on over 1mil pts. Play the game on a harder difficulty and the points fly in.

[onkeh]

Originally Posted by jonhuz

Second play through I'd cleaned Drebin out and am now sitting on over 1mil pts. Play the game on a harder difficulty and the points fly in.

Well I finished it on hard the first time through and was hardly swimming in cash, (though iirc I bought the Mousin Nagent and the Barrret Light .50 which were pretty expensive), I'll see how much I've got after my extreme playthrough I guess and try and stock up in Act 5.

[Br0ken]

Handy Hint: you get 20% off at Drebin's shop every Wednesday and Sunday.

[onkeh]

Originally Posted by Br0ken

Handy Hint: you get 20% off at Drebin's shop every Wednesday and Sunday.

Oo will have to go on a spending spree when I get home

[gibbers]

There is a table of how it works on p180 of the guide.I dont know how to make a table on here otherwise i would copy it down

[jonhuz]

oh and everything is half price onboard haven (Act 5). That's where I unlocked/bought my weapons.

[Br0ken]

Originally Posted by onkeh

Oo will have to go on a spending spree when I get home

Lol, I'm not sure if its real day or in game day, if its real days (I'll have to check tonight actually) then I'm rating this game 11/10 just because of that

[Hulligan]

Originally Posted by Br0ken

Lol, I'm not sure if its real day or in game day, if its real days (I'll have to check tonight actually) then I'm rating this game 11/10 just because of that

Goes by the time/date set on your PS3!

I was playing last night and before 12 i had no discount, after 12 i got 20% off.

I guess if you REALLY want the items quickly, you could get to act 5, wait till wednesday and get 70% off!

[Br0ken]

70%? Does the discount increase during the game? Yes or no answer please - don't need to know how or why

[onkeh]

Originally Posted by Br0ken

70%? Does the discount increase during the game? Yes or no answer please - don't need to know how or why

Everything is 50% off during Act 5, pretty sure the Wed/Sun discount has no effect during this time.

[MooseMullay]

Originally Posted by Hulligan

Goes by the time/date set on your PS3!

I was playing last night and before 12 i had no discount, after 12 i got 20% off.

I guess if you REALLY want the items quickly, you could get to act 5, wait till wednesday and get 70% off!

You don't even have to wait til Wednesday - just reset your PS3 system time to suit you.

[JackM]

Posted this in a different thread, but it may be useful to anyone who needs quick access to the information and hadn't looked in the other thread.
Deserving of its own post I hope.

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You recieve a DP bonus that is adjusted in accordance with the following criteria;

1. The weapons basic value.

2. The way the Weapon was obtained (see below).

CONDITION-------------------------------------------------------MULTIPLIER

Weapons placed on maps. ----------------------------------------------1
Weapons found during hold-ups and body searches.----------------..-----1
weapons obtained by disarming soldiers with CQC.-----------------...-----1
Weapons dropped by soldiers defeated by anyone other than Snake.------0.3
Weapons of enemies defeated in a cutscene.-----------------------------1
Weapons dropped by soldiers put to sleep or stunned by Snake.-----.-----0.2
Weapons dropped by soldiers killed by Snake.------------------------..---0.1

3. The difficulty level you are playing on (see below).

4. The current Act (see below).

--------LIQUID EASY ----- NAKED NORMAL ----- SOLID NORMAL ----- BIG BOSS HARD ------ THE BOSS EXTREME

ACT 1-------1--------------------1--------------------1---------------------0.8-----------------------0.5
ACT 2-------1--------------------1--------------------1---------------------0.8-----------------------0.5
ACT 3------1.2---------..--------1.2---------.--------1.2--------------------0.95------------------..---0.6
ACT 4------1.5---------..--------1.5---------.--------1.5-------------..------1.2-----------------------0.75
ACT 5-------2--------------------2--------------------2------------.--.--.---1.6------------------------1

The calculation, with 1 representing 100% of the basic weapon value, works in the following way:

Basic sale value x condition multiplier x battlefield multiplier = total

For example, if you obtain a P90 by tranquilizing a Haven Trooper in Advent Palace on Big Boss Hard difficulty level, the maths looks like this:

1,500 DP x 0.2 (soldier stunned) x 0.8 (Big Boss Hard, Act 1) = 240DP

[Bomer]

Nice thread! Should be stickied!

[MooseMullay]

Many thanks - great thread.

[onkeh]

Great post, thanks JackM.