[sco101]

What a fantastic game one of the best ive played in the past 5 years. So is everyone happy with how the story turned out?

The Microwave Hallway part was just wow, the fight with liquid at the end with music from the previous games and health bars from previous game was brilliant, the Big Boss meeting was

[Dan Gleebitz]

I found the Liquid fight the hardest part of the game. Took me about 5 or 6 attempts I think. I found part 2 of the fight the hardest. That 'super' punch he does really knocks you for 6. My first strategy was to get close and grab him to do the CQC sequence. I found it didn't do that much damage though, and in the end I opted for dodging his super punch and then just mashing the punch button to pull of the combo. Part 3 was weird. He was winning for most of the fight and had more health but then it went to a cut-scene and then I finished him. Maybe the game was clever enough to realise I'd had enough I was getting a bit frustrated at that point anyway.

[Paul_T]

I was nervous to start playing at first, just had a feeling it was going to be something special and wanted to saviour the moment - "I'm about to lose 2 days of my life..." As with the last 2 games, Harry Gregson-Williams soundtrack has been first class

The opening menu screen in the cemetary - has anyone else watched to the end? What did you think?

So many parts of this game have been fantastic - who would have thought that playing that snippet of the first game would have been so good. "SNAKKEEEE!!!"

Will almost certainly play it again at some point - 10/10. Quite possibly the best game I've ever played. I know some people criticise the series for long cutscenes, but when they're as rivetting as this oyu can't complain - they put some Hollywood blockbusters to shame - very cinematic.

Can't wait to see what Kojima-san decides to do next (As long as its not another Zone Of The Enders!!)

[sco101]

Originally Posted by Paul_T

I know some people criticise the series for long cutscenes, but when they're as rivetting as this oyu can't complain - they put some Hollywood blockbusters to shame - very cinematic.

I know there has been talk of a MGS movie i think they should do what sony are doing with the new Resident Evil movie and just use CGI with kojima directing or else we'll end up getting someone like michael bay doing it


Raiden has went from one of the most disliked characters to one of the best...if only we could of played MGS 2 with Ninja Raiden also you could say Ocelot is as much as a hero as snake.

Oi i liked Zone Of The Enders

[Jim_Fear]

Originally Posted by sco101

also you could say Ocelot is as much as a hero as snake.

After I found out what he did to himself I felt sorry for him

[Kryptix]

Losers!

[Dave_C]

Originally Posted by sco101

The Microwave Hallway part was just wow

I haven't mashed my controller buttons so fast since track and field, didn't think I was going to make it!

Originally Posted by Dan Gleebitz

I found the Liquid fight the hardest part of the game. Took me about 5 or 6 attempts I think. I found part 2 of the fight the hardest. That 'super' punch he does really knocks you for 6. My first strategy was to get close and grab him to do the CQC sequence. I found it didn't do that much damage though, and in the end I opted for dodging his super punch and then just mashing the punch button to pull of the combo. Part 3 was weird. He was winning for most of the fight and had more health but then it went to a cut-scene and then I finished him. Maybe the game was clever enough to realise I'd had enough I was getting a bit frustrated at that point anyway.

Same here took me around 4 trys to get past. I was starting to think am I ever going to manage to get past this!

Stunning game can only hope for another in whatever form it may be in, I can see myself playing this again quite a few time before that day comes though.

Are the unlocks you get dependant on how well you did in the game or anything btw? I got some pistol and around 6 different equipment belt camouflages, was hoping for something more cool (Screaming Mantis' doll would have been nice).

[Anotherlimey]

Originally Posted by Kryptix

Losers!

[russd1978]

How can you guys complete it in 2 days? Do you not go to sleep? haha

[jonhuz]

Finished first run in about 20hrs. Playing on easy to get 0 kills and 0 alerts to bag the stealth camo for big boss difficulty (up to Act 3, so far i'm on track).

The whole last Act is godly.

[CAS FAN]

I finished this last night (well this morning at about 3am ) and loved every moment of it. Took me about 21 hours, but I was taking it all in and certainly not looking to rush through it. Simply an awesome game .

[SkilledNutter]

Finished it on Normal, took 21hrs. Just started on Extreme now and gonna finish it again!

As for the story, yeah I still don't get it but heh 2nd time round I'll just skip the cut scenes

[mpn]

Just finished it . Must admit that the cut scenes were begining to get on my nerves a little towards the end !!! Exellent fianle though and well worth the effort. Quite possibly the greatest game ever created in my opinion. Now to do it all again on each of the difficulty settings ..... at least i can skip the cut scenes this time

[SkilledNutter]

Originally Posted by mpn

Just finished it . Must admit that the cut scenes were begining to get on my nerves a little towards the end !!! Exellent fianle though and well worth the effort. Quite possibly the greatest game ever created in my opinion. Now to do it all again on each of the difficulty settings ..... at least i can skip the cut scenes this time

If you skip all the cut scenes it should only take about 7hrs to finish on Normal.

Im playing it again on Extreme and to say it is hard is an understatement. I must have died about 20 times in the 1st chapter compared to 0 when I played through on Normal.

[gastroboy]

Hint for the final fight with Liquid, L1 + R1 (big punch) and do the dodgy Street Fighter move and just get him to the edge and keep punching. That's it really. It took me 3 goes to figure out that L1 actually did something!

But yeah, this was a truely epic game (not in terms of length) wow....

Oh, I only just realised that its a sneaking game (haven't played the other ones). hahaha.....I went through the whole game FPS style (I got the Cow title!).

Going through again to play it properly now.

[Doctor Hades]

I completed the game in just shy of 21 hours although that was on the easiest difficulty setting. I was ranked Lobster. Yes, I'm a wuss but seeing as MGS 4 is so heavily driven by its story, I wanted to be sure I could finish it. On reflection I perhaps should have played it on the second difficulty, the one below Normal, because it was a bit too easy. However, I did thoroughly enjoy every second of the game from start to finish. I was even engrossed by that 60+ minute epilogue which wrapped everything up nicely. I even confess I got emotional at the bit where it looked as if Snake had shot himself, almost to the point of shouting NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO at the screen! Fortunately, there was more to come and it was well worth it.

I have to confess that although I played the previous two games on the PS2 and Twin Snakes on the GameCube (I never played the PSone original), I was never a big fan of the series, mainly due to the excessive Codec screens, the somewhat clumsy controls and awkward camera angles. Fortunately, all those things were addressed for MGS 4... the Codecs were less intrusive, the third-person camera was an absolute joy - the over-the-shoulder one is my favourite - and the controls were just brilliant, although initially complex until mastered. The graphics engine was really impressive, nice to see a game looking this good and running smoothly with no screen tearing for a change. As far as the art design and cutscenes go, I've not seen better anywhere else. I did notice some of the cutscenes were pre-rendered using the game engine rather than real-time as I couldn't manipulate the camera and Snake didn't look as he did in the game only moments before. To be fair, the real-time cutscenes are so good that if it wasn't for the fact that Snake's looks in those bits depends on what he looked like ingame I'd have swore they were all pre-rendered. Amazing stuff really. Voice-acting and music were all perfect too.

There were so many amazing moments but Act 4 stands for me because of the homage to the original game plus the level itself was incredibly atmospheric with all those echoey memories and stuff. Even the weakest bits like the start of Act 3 were still better than most games manage at best and at least this felt different. In fact, the game as a whole manged to capture the essence of all three MGS games: Act 2 was MGS 3, Act 4 was obviously the original MGS and Act 5 was reminiscent of MGS 2. Act 1 was a great start to the game too, Snake being stuck in the middle of a warzone and it was neat the way you had numerous ways to play it. You could, for example, play it entirely like Gears of War if you wanted, moving from cover to cover, taking out PMC troops (and Militia) or you could play it stealthily and avoid confrontation altogether.

The boss fights were also cool, one of them literally so, i.e. the one with Crying Wolf in the snow storm. Probably my favourite was the fight between Liquid and Snake in the Metal Gears... if only the Transformers game had been that good! Finally the on-rails vehicle bits were breath-taking, especially the motorbike one on Act 3. Shame they were somewhat marred by the constant loading screens each prompting you to press Start to resume, it was really unnecessary IMO, seeing as you can pause the game at any time anyway, even during the cutscenes.

MGS 4 is definitely the finest game on the PS3 by a country mile, worth buying the machine for IMO, and it's by far the best exclusive game I've played this year. In fact, I very much doubt it'll be bettered in terms of marrying an epic cinematic experience with exciting gameplay.

10/10!

[Paul_T]

Does anyone know the order of the ranks? I got "Hawk"... is that good? I'm assuming the best is "snake"...

[jonhuz]

Best is Big Boss.

[Doctor Hades]

There looks to be about 40 different ranks in total from the end screen. However, apart from the last Act, I never noticed the ranking in the earlier ones so I'm assuming the five I had at the end were from each of the Acts? I'm also guessing that by replaying the game it is possible to get them all and that there will be some reward for doing so. I don't see why it would be there otherwise. Shame you can view this ranking screen anywhere other than the end of the game though.

[theblacksheep]

Originally Posted by jonhuz

Best is Big Boss.

Seen what you need to get big boss?

[iddqd]

Originally Posted by theblacksheep

Seen what you need to get big boss?

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6264/dscf0009pq6.jpg

[Gazaman]

Are any of you guys gonna have another crack at it or is just the one time enough?
Sorry if this has been asked earlier in the thread but i haven't read any of the posts as i dont want to read any potential spoilers.

[CAS FAN]

Originally Posted by Gazaman

Are any of you guys gonna have another crack at it or is just the one time enough?
Sorry if this has been asked earlier in the thread but i haven't read any of the posts as i dont want to read any potential spoilers.

I'd certainly love to play this again and i'm sure I will do.

[Paul_T]

Originally Posted by Gazaman

Are any of you guys gonna have another crack at it or is just the one time enough?
Sorry if this has been asked earlier in the thread but i haven't read any of the posts as i dont want to read any potential spoilers.

Game definately warrants multiple plays - although there were rumours of firmware 2.40 being released before MGS4's release last week but has been delayed. 2.40 is expected to include PS3's Trophies (ie achievements) and the last I heard was that the update had delayed a week. MGS4 is apparently already primed for these trophies so I might hang on and see what happens...

[Jim_Fear]

Originally Posted by ziggysays

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6264/dscf0009pq6.jpg

Less than 4 hours?! Someone has been playing it on super duper easy mode

[andytabor]

I'm just simply not into games as much as I used to be and I can't think of any game I would want to sit and play constantly until I finished it apart from Metal Gear Solid. I played it all day saturday and sunday and I sat enthralled through the whole experience, simply one of the best games i've played, it brought back such good memories of playing the original ps one version 10 years ago. I dont think ive mashed buttons harder than i did in that microwave corridor.

if i could give this game 20/10 i would, stunning. Im so glad i got a dual shock from japan ages ago, i think its a disgrace sony havent released it in europe yet especially as this game relies on it so heavily, one sequence in particular would have been ruined without a DS3.

[beowulf]

clocked it last night - utterly underwhelmed

it's basically 50 gigs of cgi videos ( which thank god you can skip ) and a few sub games thrown in

if this is the future of video gaming , i'm going back to my snes

the final nail in the coffin was that the damn thing corrupted my ps3's hd and it had to rebuild the database on startup - luckily i didn't lose anything

but this is going straight back to blockbusters asap

totally overhyped crap

the hilarious thing is people claiming it's the greatest game ever

they obv haven't played many decent games..

bioshock or cod4 online killer this is NOT

[Jim_Fear]

I guess you've never played a MGS game before

[Jim_Fear]

Originally Posted by andytabor

I'm just simply not into games as much as I used to be and I can't think of any game I would want to sit and play constantly until I finished it apart from Metal Gear Solid. I played it all day saturday and sunday and I sat enthralled through the whole experience, simply one of the best games i've played, it brought back such good memories of playing the original ps one version 10 years ago. I dont think ive mashed buttons harder than i did in that microwave corridor.

if i could give this game 20/10 i would, stunning. Im so glad i got a dual shock from japan ages ago, i think its a disgrace sony havent released it in europe yet especially as this game relies on it so heavily, one sequence in particular would have been ruined without a DS3.

I think DS3 came out here in April, I've seen it in shops and my mate in the game distribution industry got all of his from work.

[gyb]

Originally Posted by Jim_Fear

Less than 4 hours?! Someone has been playing it on super duper easy mode

Except it says the difficulty in the top right corner (and you need to complete it on Boss Extreme to get the emblem)