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No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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Old 13-06-2008, 1:03 AM   #1
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No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

Well, Ive just finished Act One in 5hrs without killing or KOing a single enemy, its been totally stealth and Im pretty pleased with it, except:

When you meet up with the Rat group and have to escape from the building, how on Earth can you get out without killing anyone? I tried hiding and letting the others kill the enemy but they just kept shooting for ages or I got ambushed. The only thing I could do was join in the fight and ended the level with 31 kills

Anyone found a good way to do it yet?
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Old 13-06-2008, 7:05 AM   #2
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

Maybe use the existing thread on Play....

Metal Gear Solid 4 - Play & Help Thread
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Old 13-06-2008, 7:43 AM   #3
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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Maybe use the existing thread on Play....

Metal Gear Solid 4 - Play & Help Thread
It's probably in that thread but to answer the question you can put enemies tp sleep with the tranquilizer gun.. can't remember the specific name but it's blue in the menus. Non lethal weapons are highlighted blue and lethal ones red.
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Old 13-06-2008, 10:04 AM   #4
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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Maybe use the existing thread on Play....

Metal Gear Solid 4 - Play & Help Thread
It's not in there, and its such a long thread with general chit-chat about the game, and this was a specific query, so I felt it better to make a seperate thread rather than clutter than one up. But thanks for your help anyway.
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Old 14-06-2008, 7:28 PM   #5
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

You must be able to knock them out, this is one of the achiements/rewards...

Bandanna - Complete a single-player session without killing anyone (including bosses). You can do this on any difficulty.
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Old 14-06-2008, 7:54 PM   #6
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

You have to use the M9... I got to that stage and started trying to do it, but gave up after a point and equipped the P90 I stole off one of them... Annoyingly I only killed them, I tranquilized the rest...
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Old 15-06-2008, 9:26 PM   #7
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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You must be able to knock them out, this is one of the achiements/rewards...

Bandanna - Complete a single-player session without killing anyone (including bosses). You can do this on any difficulty.
How are you supposed to complete the game without killing any of the B&B's? and what about Vamp?

and is there a list of the rewards and what they unlock?
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Old 15-06-2008, 11:43 PM   #8
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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How are you supposed to complete the game without killing any of the B&B's? and what about Vamp?

and is there a list of the rewards and what they unlock?
Tranq them. Just completed the game 0 kills 0 alerts. Rewards were a special bandana that gives you infinite ammo (when equipped) and stealth camo - which will be very useful for the hardest difficulty.
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Old 16-06-2008, 8:06 AM   #9
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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Tranq them. Just completed the game 0 kills 0 alerts. Rewards were a special bandana that gives you infinite ammo (when equipped) and stealth camo - which will be very useful for the hardest difficulty.
Wow, have you been playing the game constantly since release?
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Old 16-06-2008, 8:09 AM   #10
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

Can you taze them with the knife or does that count as a 'lethal' attack?
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Old 16-06-2008, 8:39 AM   #11
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

Knife stuns are non-lethal.

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Old 16-06-2008, 9:54 AM   #12
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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Tranq them. Just completed the game 0 kills 0 alerts. Rewards were a special bandana that gives you infinite ammo (when equipped) and stealth camo - which will be very useful for the hardest difficulty.

How did you manage the shootout I originally posted about? All tranqs or did you run away? I bet it took forever!

Ive gotten all the way to the getaway in Act 3 without killing anyone since that shootout, and now came to the bit where EVA keeps stopping the bike and you have to shoot all the soldiers before she moves on. I only tried once before I died, but tranq'ing them took forever and they shot my ass off
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Old 16-06-2008, 10:01 AM   #13
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

First run on (second normal difficulty) took 20hrs.

Second run on liquid easy was 4hrs 15mins. It was on this run I completed 0 kill/alert.

You can tranq, knife stun or cqc the frogs. I'm not sure but you may be able to drop sleep mines as you progress to meet Rat patrol. When the frogs spawn they might trigger the mines.
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Old 16-06-2008, 10:36 AM   #14
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

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Second run on liquid easy was 4hrs 15mins. It was on this run I completed 0 kill/alert.

Ahhh, so you cheated then! LOL, only kidding. Doing it on wuss-mode in 4hrs, that must have been mega easy compared to Solid mode?
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:24 AM   #15
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Re: No kills, act 1 (Spoilers)

It would have been had I not been going for the 0kill/alerts. Still tricky to avoid everything whilst moving through the levels.
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