Foehn & Hirsch 22"

[bertha]

Foehn & Hirsch 22" HD Ready Widescreen LCD TV Freeview 300cd/m2 1000:1 5ms HDMI/VGA/Scart Glossy Black 2 Year Warranty - Ebuyer

Anyone have any experience of this product or make please? Reviews on ebuyer compare it favourably with similarly specced samsungs

cheers

berth

[Chris Muriel]

Originally Posted by bertha

Foehn & Hirsch 22" HD Ready Widescreen LCD TV Freeview 300cd/m2 1000:1 5ms HDMI/VGA/Scart Glossy Black 2 Year Warranty - Ebuyer

Anyone have any experience of this product or make please? Reviews on ebuyer compare it favourably with similarly specced samsungs

cheers

berth

Impressive sounding name used to market cheap Chinese products.
Good ploy from Ebuyer though

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Chris Muriel, Manchester

[Fatfreedy]

Foehn & Hirsch 22 inch LCD HDTV Freeview
The Foehn & Hirsch 22 inch HD Ready LCD TV is both elegant and perfect for those people who seek superior quality and style. With FREE HDMI cable

All the Foehn & Hirsch TVs come with freeview built in so they are ready for the digital switch over and are all wall-mountable, an ideal choice for all your needs.

With a contrast ratio of 1000:1 and a response time of fewer than 5ms the Foehn and Hirsch 22" LCD has the perfect picture to keep you entertained. The Fast response is perfect for people who like to play fast paced games, or action movies. The High contrast ratio is ideal for viewing movies where you need extra colour detail.

The Foehn & Hirsch 22 inch LCD has a wealth of connections that makes it easy to connect any device, whether its connecting a satellite System or the latest HDMI DVD player. Connect your PS3, Xbox360 or even your Wii and marvel in the sheer quality of the screen that enhances your gaming and viewing pleasure.

Foehn and Hirschs invisible speakers are embedded into the LCD for enhanced audio and a wider sound field.

Specifications

Picture Features
* Screen size 22 inch 16:10
* Super High Definition VGA 1680 x 1050
* Aspect ratio 16:10
* Contrast Ratio 1000:1 by panel
* Brightness 300 cd/m2 by panel
* Viewing Angle( L/R/U/D ) 85 / 85 / 80 / 80 by panel
* Response time 5ms
* High tech signal process HD READY TV supporting up to 1080p signal
Tuner
* Digital Switch Over ready
* Tuning system DVB-T(MHEG5) / PAL
* Antenna impedance VHF/CATV/UHF 75 unbalanced
* Number of channel 100(Analog), 400(Digital)
* Common Interface Digital topup channel compatability
Sound
* Automatic Volume Level Control
* Balance
* Speakers x 2
* Audio power
Connections
* RF TV/CATV 75ohms coaxial x 1
* Video In Video:RCA 75ohms composite video x 1
* YPbPr component input x 1
* PC In HDMI / DVI / VGA
* Audio In L/R RCA-1
* Scart RGB/CVBS in, CVBS out x 1
* HDMI x 1 up to 1080P
Other features
* Last Channel recall
* Automatic tuning
* Sleep timer
* OSD Menu Multi-language
* Audio mute
* Teletext
* Nicam Stereo
Power
* Power supply AC 220V 50Hz
* Power consumption 60W
Cabinet
* Front cabinet Glossy Piano black
* VESA compatible
* Detachable base
Accessory
* Glossy color Box
* User's Manual on CD
* Easy setup guide
* Remote control
* Batteries Included 1.5V(AAA)x2
Size & Weight
* Dimension(Width x Height x Depth) 610mmx510mmx210mm
* Gross weight 5.5kg
* Net weight 4.5kg
Environmental conditions
* Operating Temperature 10 ~ 35C
* Operating Humidity 20 ~ 80%
* Storage Temperature -10 ~ 60
* Storage Humi 5 ~ 90%

[fredchan]

Originally Posted by Chris Muriel

Impressive sounding name used to market cheap Chinese products.
Good ploy from Ebuyer though

2493018

Chris Muriel, Manchester

Thanks for that link! It is nice to know that the trade mark was taken up by ebuyer and not by a Chinese import company. How come English names are associated with bad quality like bankers, cars, electronic goods, Members of Parliament, construction workers ....whereas Japanese and German names are respected? It is understandable that German names are used in their home market as most of their consumer electronics are imported from China and re-branded with German names their. But it is unfair and unethical to use this policy for English company in an English market..these decision makers seemed to brand the English names as less than wholesome and unsaleable and producer of low quality stuff.

[Chris Muriel]

It's been going on as a marketing ploy for many decades.
In the early 1970s I bought a pair of binoculars that appeared to be made by "Lieberman and Gortz"; being somewhat naive in those days, I made the association that the store (the long defunct "Headquarter and General" in Holborn) had intended. It sounded German and this invented brand name conjured up images of Zeiss etc. They weren't appalling binoculars but no different from all the others that didn't have any fancy sounding branding on them; however, the name definitely influenced my purchasing decision.

Chris muriel, Manchester

[xiuxiuejar]

Foehn & Hirsch ???????

Don't they make cutlery????

[Chris Muriel]

Originally Posted by xiuxiuejar

Foehn & Hirsch ???????

Don't they make cutlery????

Villeroy and Boch ?

Chris Muriel, Manchester

[Bibby_83]

Hi, my friend is interested in one of these but -

Viewing Angle( L/R/U/D ) 85 / 85 / 80 / 80 by panel

To me that sounds like it must be a basic/cheap Twisted (TN) panel or one of the other earlier technologies like the Fujitsu VA. Having said that, the Fujitsu LCD monitor I am viewing this on has a decent viewing angle and is from 2005 so I think TVs should have moved on a bit from that. Strange that they are apparently using this tech on even the largest screens - perhaps they have their own factory? I think if the angle states 178 it is IPS, 176 is usually MVA or SVA (S-PVA). I don't believe these numbers flat out, I just use that for reference. Also, it states response time is 'under 5ms' (sic), if it is under 5ms what is the actual response time???

Ebuyer also sell Vistron brand TVs, I think they are a Taiwanese company and probably a better bet as far as quality is concerned. Well, at least you can find out more about them, though their website is old. I have seen Vistron DVD Recorders on Ebay and I think they may be related to Vestel Recorders so perhaps their TVs are Vestel also. Vestel is a Turkish electronics group with hands in the component market and apparently make many finished products like the Argos (Home Retail Group) brands such as Bush, Goodmans, Wharfedale (Wharfedale is not owned by Argos) and some of the major companies like Hitachi, Toshiba etc. I think Vestel have used IPS panels in the past, but couldn't swear to it - the Vistron brand TVs are now using IPS from LG Display though so it might be more than a coincidence. Sorry this sounds confusing, but it seems it is! Edit: Apparently Vistron are from Singapore? Or at least their website is registered there.

[Bibby_83]

Sorry for the extra reply but I also thought of a brand that Ebuyer and others sell which is perhaps reasonable - Teco. They are a major Taiwanese company and I have actually seen one of their sets in the flesh and it was quite decent, the viewing angle was fine too. That said it was a larger 42 inch screen but I am sure they make smaller sizes if that is what you are after.

Just to give an idea of their prices, they do a 37 inch HD-Ready (720P) set for under £500 - http://www.comwales.com/eshop/produc...roductid=81830. This is only my opinion and I wouldn't like to give advice but its worth a look anyway, if the price is right.

[Bond James Bond]

* Viewing Angle( L/R/U/D ) 85 / 85 / 80 / 80 by panel

Doesn't that way of listing the angles suggest it is 85 degrees to the left from centre, 85 deg to the right from centre giving a total of 170? If not why the 'L/R/U/D' method of displaying it?

My daughter has just bought a 19" one of these for her bedroom. Will post a comment on how good it looks before the weekend. Frankly though, she's not a HD buff - will be watching Eastenders, The Apprentice, Big Bro' and the Simpsons so for the money (the 19" is £139) it looks not too bad a spec. It also has a three year warranty.

I'll let you know....

[Moon Walker]

Hi Guys,
Does any have problem getting freeview on itv and channel4?

[kipple]

bumping this up, as I am looking for a cheapie small TV and considering this one..

[Boostrail]

Please see my correspondence with another poster in this thread.

22" LCD TV - Any good ?

IMHO this is the best deal at way under £200 at the moment. I am contemplating buying a second one myself to replace the 17" 5 year old Dell LCD monitor on my PC that I am using at present.

[kipple]

Thankyou Boostrail.

I'll follow your trail and go and check it out this weekend.

[Boostrail]

Originally Posted by kipple

Thankyou Boostrail.

I'll follow your trail and go and check it out this weekend.

Please be aware ths TV it appears is only now available on-line. It has disappeared from the shelves at both my nearest Tescos (both Xtras)

But dont forget Tescos' open return policy!

[kipple]

Ah, that's a shame. But thanks for telling me, saved me some time..

[Boostrail]

Originally Posted by kipple

Ah, that's a shame. But thanks for telling me, saved me some time..

Why??????

Order it online delivery to local store. If not happy take it back - get full refund.

So again whats the problem?????????

[hawkwind666]

hello i have just seen on the ebuyer forums that the Foehn & Hirsch 42" has no audio out
so if i wanted to have surround sound is there any other way

[Chris Muriel]

Hopefully via 1 of its SCART sockets.

Chris Muriel, Manchester

[hawkwind666]

thanks i feel better now but i was alarmed by this single post
please accept my apologizes if im not allowed to link
Ebuyer Forums - View Single Post - Foehn & Hirsch 42" HD Ready Widescreen LCD TV Freeview 500cd/m2 1500:1 HDMIx2/VGA/Scart Glossy Black 3 Years Warranty (Quickfind: 155000)

[Chris Muriel]

Interesting that all the remote control functions of an LG model 42LG5000 seem to work; it might be worth Googling the LG model to see if it's a near clone.
There appear to be no high level audio outputs (sufficient to power an external passive speaker) but the SCART audio outputs could still work ok when fed to ampilfiers or active speakers.

Chris Muriel, Manchester

[Bibby_83]

The fact that the 42 inch TV lacks a power on/off switch leads me to think it isn't made by Vestel, who usually put these on the rear or the side next to the video input. I also think that means it cannot be based on anything LG have made other than perhaps the panel.

IMO Ebuyer's quality does not impress anybody.

[hawkwind666]

Is this audio out or what
taken from manual

Speaker Sound Output Selection
In AV, Component, RGB and HDMI mode, you can select output sound for the left and right loudspeakers.
Repeatedly press the I/I I button to select the sound output.
L+R: Audio signal from audio L input is sent to the left loud speaker and audio signal from audio
R input is sent to the right loud speaker.
L+L: Audio signal from audio L input is sent to left and right loud speakers.
R+R: Audio signal from audio R input is sent to left and right loud speakers

[Bibby_83]

Hi hawkwind,
That seems to refer to the audio setup of the TV speakers rather than an external output to speakers. I don't know if you have purchased one of these TVs but the set will likely have phono (stereo, that is black/left channel red/right) connections or digital outs.

[hawkwind666]

Yes got the TV now.
Its the 42" just noticed the title of this thread is for the 22" but same make
Here is what i have is there anyway to get surround sound from here
The manual comes on a cd in PDF so if anyone wants it please pm with email
I am actually well impressed with the picture quality compared to my other 2 LCD,s

1. POWER CORD SOCKET
2. SERVICE ONLY
3. HDMI/DVI 3
4. HDMI/DVI 1
5. HDMI/DVI 2
6. VGA/RGB(PC) IN
7. AUDIO IN (VGA/RGB/DVI)
8. SCART 1
9. SCART 2
10. COMPONENT VIDEO Y IN
11. CVBS IN
12. R: RIGHT TRACK AUDIO INPUT (CVBS / S-VIDEO)
13. L: LEFT TRACK AUDIO INPUT (CVBS / S-VIDEO)
14. S-video
15. ANTENNA IN
16. PCMCIA CARD SOLT
17. EJECT PCMCIA CARD
18. COMPONENT VIDEO Pr IN
19. COMPONENT VIDEO Pb IN
20. COMPONENT AUDIO RIGHT IN
21. COMPONENT AUDIO LEFT IN
22. SPDIF

[hawkwind666]

can i do it through the SPDIF as above number 22

[Curly99]

Originally Posted by hawkwind666

can i do it through the SPDIF as above number 22

from a quick look @ 42 inch Full HD LCD Televisions from Foehn & Hirsch it looks like SPDF could be the audio out, can you not borrow a cable and check?

Curly

[hawkwind666]

sorry ment to reply here but did it in email by mistake
anyway i have sent you the manual in pdf which came on cd with the tv
also what kind of cable am i looking for to try it
regards

was away for a week so this is the first chance to reply sorry

[hawkwind666]

just to add there is a SPDIF on the TV dont know if its out or in though..

[Curly99]

Having had a look at the manual you sent me it's not very clear and as I said before it does not mention the spdf under the audio in options so it safe to say it is the audio out, as for what cable you need , what are you going to be plugging it in to?

Curly