Sony W4500 Series 100Hz,50.000:1 Dynamic contrast,DLNA *Part 2*

[HRF1T2007]

hi guys

I have to get a new tv as my current Tosh has been written of by Comet and i have been given £770 in Comet vouchers to spend on a replacement

I went into the store and was blown away with the 40W4500 and took with me a recorded DVd of footy i made etc was still impressed

Yes i will have to stump up a bit of cash for the Tv, but reading on here and on the net i have been really knocked back on this Tv with the clouding reports etc, i know not many come on to say how happy they are as forums etc are for help mainly so i suppose the bad will be bought forward to appear to be the norm

Was interested in the Toshiba 37RV555 but comet do not seem to have instore only the XV Model which is non 100mhz of which i want for footy, having PS3 and only SKy + via scart the Sony upscaled the recording of the footy very nicely indeed

I suppose the question is what do i do take a chance and buy one and hope to god that all is well, as if not it seems Sony are saying it is normal and i won't get to swap it.
it would seem that most TV's have a flaw it's to what degree it is,
is the clouding visible at ambient lighting i have an uplighter and a table lamp in my living room to watch films, as seems people saying only visible in pitch bllack conditions.

My other half who also was bowled over with the quality instore, says get it and go from there.....

[BrianPK]

What you need to do is to listen in one ear to your "other half" and in the other ear to Restorer (2 posts back) ...both of whom are talking sound common sense (actually my own last post isn't bad either).Stop worrying and get this mighty panel.I really feel sorry for people who have been put off this wonderfully detailed and bright screen.Buy with confidence and relax.For most of us it's an expensive and rare purchase and should be a very enjoyable occasion and not frought with worry and concern.You are doing the right thing and (like the vast majority of us) will be delighted with your new panel.The "Wow" factor you experienced in the showroom will be permanently repeated in your living room.

[Will99]

Yes don't be too put off by the negative posts - I have complained about the clouding on my set but in all honesty if I had my cash back I would still go out and buy the same TV.
I only read about the clouding on this forum and then went to look for it, and only in certain circumstances do I find it - and that's only some faint lightness near a couple of the corners when the screen is black and the room is dark. It does not spoil my enjoyment of the TV at all really.
I have an engineer coming round to check it out, and yeah I will be happy if he sanctions a replacement unit but if he doesn't I am not too bothered as I am still very pleased with my choice of TV.

Buy it. Better that than buy a TV which you think is inferior in normal viewing conditions.

[MIL0]

Originally Posted by HRF1T2007

I suppose the question is what do i do take a chance and buy one and hope to god that all is well, as if not it seems Sony are saying it is normal and i won't get to swap it.
it would seem that most TV's have a flaw it's to what degree it is,
is the clouding visible at ambient lighting i have an uplighter and a table lamp in my living room to watch films, as seems people saying only visible in pitch bllack conditions.

My other half who also was bowled over with the quality instore, says get it and go from there.....

First, Sony will replace a faulty TV - or rather any decent retailer has to - within 28 days of purchase. After that time, it would go for repair. The question is what's classified as faulty and - in my view - seeing some light clouding on a black screen when the room is dark is not a faulty telly.

People are becoming concerned because some people have had real problems with light leaky tellies - e.g. seeing white bar at top bottom or sides, clouding noticeable while watching a film, etc. From what I can tell, everyone who's not been happy has mostly got a replacement telly. Those still not happy when they get a second set should really be looking for another telly!

I looked again last night - with my wife's critical eye - and we both noticed a little clouding on each corner. Watched some dark scenes on TV - couldn't see a thing.

If you're anything like me (though I am a bit childish with these things!) you will be blown away by the picture quality in HD (both i and p). SD isn't too bad either - once you've played around with the settings!

If you're this far down the line and have chosen this screen - I say give it a go!

Have you seen these reviews?

Sony KDL40W4500 / KDL40W4500U Review

Sony KDL-40W4500 review - whathifi.com

[HRF1T2007]

Right

Ok I’m going to go for it, I have rang the team at Comet and awaiting a call back, so I can arrange a way of getting the vouchers or they arranging with the store for me to go pick this TV up and pay the difference, as they are out of stock online.

This is also an upgrade from the Tosh 32" to the Sony 40"

I have never been so nervous and excited over a TV before (Gulp)

[Richfell]

Originally Posted by HRF1T2007

Right

Ok I’m going to go for it, I have rang the team at Comet and awaiting a call back, so I can arrange a way of getting the vouchers or they arranging with the store for me to go pick this TV up and pay the difference, as they are out of stock online.

This is also an upgrade from the Tosh 32" to the Sony 40"

I have never been so nervous and excited over a TV before (Gulp)

Well stop being nervous mate. You should be very very excited though.

You've picked a stunning tv.

Once you've given it a go with a blu ray disc you'll be ordering Sky HD too I bet.

Let us know how you get on.

[astonbilla]

Guys, just got a W4000 - but i think the guys on that thread are living in denial.

I have clouding and leeding. It is quite apparent in a dark room.

My PS3 exibits this quite clearly - especially when you launch a game (screen clears to black with playstation 3 logo)

With lights on this is barely noticeable, maybe a slight brightness in the top right if a movie has bars.

All i want to know is if this is quite normal compared to every one else. If so i reckon i'll keep it as the picture is really the best i've had in years.

ALSO - is it me or is the viewing angle very specific? if i move around or stand up, the screen will get birghter depending where i stand and in fact moving can make the bleeding disappear etc.

cheers

Bill

[Will99]

Originally Posted by MIL0

I looked again last night - with my wife's critical eye - and we both noticed a little clouding on each corner. Watched some dark scenes on TV - couldn't see a thing.

I finished Call of Duty : World At War last night and when the credits rolled up (white text on a black screen) I could see the clouding in the corners, so I presume this could happen in dark scenes in movies too (though I don't watch too many movies really).
This was with Backlight set to 2.

It is only slight and not a major issue at all, but once you know it's there you will look for it. It's more of a psychological annoyance than having your viewing experience diminished really.

[HRF1T2007]

Right bit disappointed
Comet rang me to say they have no way to authorise the store with the value due back to me they can only send me a gift card to the value of £770 which could take 2-3 days via Business Post and cannot refund to card

They checked stocks in my area and Northampton only had 4 in stock. Nowhere else had stock apart from Milton Keynes they had 3, and as discussed with the guy these could go over the weekend if my card did not arrive in time. Which would leave me in a problem? As you can only reserve an item for 24Hrs and still some sales guy may still sell it as has happened to me in the past. looks like these tv's are very popular indeed, and also thinking the new stock will be from a new batch and possibly be cured of any backlight issues.

So decided to wait a couple of weeks to see if they get more stock in then they can just ship me one to home, as expected they were unaware as to when stocks will arrive, but to keep checking the web site, not too much of a problem as the Tosh is still watch able just some dark patch in the background of the picture as it pans. So not in desperate panic!

[lennon]

Hi All,

Got my 46" W500 a couple of days ago. Apart from the initial shock of the size of it (It didnt seem as big in the store ) I am blown away. I definately have issues with clouding but having played about with the settings its only really noticable in very dark conditions and in very dark scenes.

Other than that I am dead impressed and the quality of HD sources is like nothing short of phenomenal. Anyway going to get hold of the recommended settings and try them out.

Oh and I would not have even noticed the clouding if it hadnt been for this thread. It is undeniably there but not a serious problem for me at least.

[BrianPK]

Originally Posted by astonbilla

I have clouding and leeding. It Guys, just got a W4000 - but i think the guys on that thread are living in denial.

is quite apparent in a dark room.

My PS3 exibits this quite clearly - especially when you launch a game (screen clears to black with playstation 3 logo)

With lights on this is barely noticeable, maybe a slight brightness in the top right if a movie has bars.

All i want to know is if this is quite normal compared to every one else. If so i reckon i'll keep it as the picture is really the best i've had in years.

ALSO - is it me or is the viewing angle very specific? if i move around or stand up, the screen will get birghter depending where i stand and in fact moving can make the bleeding disappear etc.

cheers

Bill

Have you reduced your backlight to sensible levels....2or3 at night time ?If you see blatant patches of light in the black bars of a movie then it's not normal.Otherwise it's ok.
Lcds have a narrower viewing angle than plasmas.What you are experiencing is normal. Sit down at a normal viewing angle and stop jumping up and down and it will be perfect. If you had bought a plasma you would (in my experience) have a marginally better viewing angle and SD performance but you'd be looking at a much darker and less detailed picture.You're getting the best of the bargain by far

[astonbilla]

Originally Posted by BrianPK

Have you reduced your backlight to sensible levels....2or3 at night time ?If you see blatant patches of light in the black bars of a movie then it's not normal.Otherwise it's ok.
Lcds have a narrower viewing angle than plasmas.What you are experiencing is normal. Sit down at a normal viewing angle and stop jumping up and down and it will be perfect. If you had bought a plasma you would (in my experience) have a marginally better viewing angle and SD performance but you'd be looking at a much darker and less detailed picture.You're getting the best of the bargain by far

yeah backlight is 2 - 3.

Just interested that moving affects the backlight. Never occured to that extent on my Samsung M86. Obivously my Panny plasma never had issues with viewing angle or lighting etc - But i would rather have a TV that makes games outstanding.

I can see one patch of light when viewing movies (top right if there are bars)

If a the background goes completely black i can see patches in a few areas.
If the light is on in the room though everything is greatly reduced.

[peterace]

Hi all,

Just received my 46W4500 yesterday. Just a quick question: when it was delivered is was not covered in thoses stickers that advertise the feature that you often see still on in shops. Just wondered if that means it is not brand new (i.e. a return that's been sent out as new). Did your sets have those stickers on when you opened the box?

I'm wondering whether or not to return it as it does seem to have quite a bit of clouding.

[lennon]

Mine was covered in stickers.

My barometer for the clouding issue is the MRS. If she notices it then I am going to contact JL whilst she doesnt I am putting it down to my awareness of the issue. Having played about with the settings its barely noticable now anyway to be honest.

On a seperate note has anyone had any problems with the remote? Mine seems to work intermittently. We have tried changing the batteries to no avail. It seems to work better the further into the evening it gets which I know sounds really odd but its true. Anyway going to google it just wondered if anyone had similar experiences?

[Will99]

Mine only had clear plastic strips across the top and bottom of the bezel - no flashy coloured ones at all.
Was bought from JL.