[allanrickman]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Ah ok, then it will have to be done on youtube then, as i say the apps all use the same universal picture settings, so any picture settings you change for youtube will be the same settings you use for the other apps.

To answer your question, yes several times. Sometimes i think it has been due to me turning of the wireless router before shutting the tv down, so the next time i turn the tv on it shows the network setup screen when i press SEN. But other times, i can't remember turning the router off and i have been greeted by the Setup screen upon pressing SEN.

So not 100% sure why i have got it, but i have on occasion.

Aaron

Thank you, i thought my wifi on my tv was faulty.

Just went to Sonys support site and its amongst the top 10 most asked questions (why the tv goes to setup screen when pressing SEN) typical sony response "set up your network connection" very helpful lol.

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by clydebest

Mate if you are happy with the 853 watching sd content,you are in for a treat watching hd and Blu ray content,I own a VT50 but for me the 853 is better P.Q. wise , but the 853 I owned had bad banding,as you say no need to go looking for issues,if they are bad enough you will see them,if not lovely.Enjoy.

You still think the Sony is better?



Hope i am a bit more excited when i have mine, especially as i am going to have to wait a little.

I would of thought the blacks and motion, also the viewing angle would be a huge step up. I find motion far more blurry than on the 46HX823 i had, and i really believe the LED Dynamic Control was better implemented on the HX823, i had far less haloing.

If a move as much as a cushion, even half a cushion right or left, the blacks on one half of the screen go blue, this is at 10 feet back.

Bet the owners want me out of this thread.

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by allanrickman

Thank you, i thought my wifi on my tv was faulty.

Just went to Sonys support site and its amongst the top 10 most asked questions (why the tv goes to setup screen when pressing SEN) typical sony response "set up your network connection" very helpful lol.

No problem.

I love generic responses that are of no help.

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

You still think the Sony is better?



Hope i am a bit more excited when i have mine, especially as i am going to have to wait a little.

I would of thought the blacks and motion, also the viewing angle would be a huge step up. I find motion far more blurry than on the 46HX823 i had, and i really believe the LED Dynamic Control was better implemented on the HX823, i had far less haloing.

If a move as much as a cushion, even half a cushion right or left, the blacks on one half of the screen go blue, this is at 10 feet back.

Bet the owners want me out of this thread.

Yes Aaron if I could be guaranteed a fault free 853,this is only my opinion,I would put it ahead of the VT50 for wow factor in regard of P.Q..At the end of the day ,as in all things it comes down to personal preference, and I prefer the 853 for P.Q..And I know my opinion is not appreciated on the VT50 thread.

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by clydebest

Yes Aaron if I could be guaranteed a fault free 853,this is only my opinion,I would put it ahead of the VT50 for wow factor in regard of P.Q..At the end of the day ,as in all things it comes down to personal preference, and I prefer the 853 for P.Q..And I know my opinion is not appreciated on the VT50 thread.

Sorry to keep going on, but i just don't get in what way, are we just talking about brightness and punch?

I guess i just want more specific points, i am like that.

Aaron

[mrbarty]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Sorry to keep going on, but i just don't get in what way, are we just talking about brightness and punch?

I guess i just want more specific points, i am like that.

Aaron

Maybe he means in some indefinable way that's dificult to put into words.

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Sorry to keep going on, but i just don't get in what way, are we just talking about brightness and punch?

I guess i just want more specific points, i am like that.

Aaron

Aaron, for me the 853 picture is clearer,crisper,more vivid,and more pleasing to the eye,at present i am watching Mexico v Brazil the VT50 is brilliant for motion whilst watching sport, but the picture is nice,that is as enthusiastic as i can get about it,i can not really explain it any better.But like i have said before the VT50,is for me completely fault free,maybe that is the trade off between a LED and a Plasma.A LED has more wow factor where as a Plasma is the safer option.As i always say it is only my opinion,i bet you will love your VT50.

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by clydebest

Aaron, for me the 853 picture is clearer,crisper,more vivid,and more pleasing to the eye,at present i am watching Mexico v Brazil the VT50 is brilliant for motion whilst watching sport, but the picture is nice,that is as enthusiastic as i can get about it,i can not really explain it any better.But like i have said before the VT50,is for me completely fault free,maybe that is the trade off between a LED and a Plasma.A LED has more wow factor where as a Plasma is the safer option.As i always say it is only my opinion,i bet you will love your VT50.

Thank you Clyde, sorry to be a pain. I guess i am just sat here not enjoying the Sony (forgetting the faults), thinking about how the VT50 will fair. As i say, i find that motion isn't the best on the Sony, the haloing is also pretty bad, and the dimming of the screen on dark scenes is also bugging me somewhat.

Sorry to be so down on the Sony, it can produce some stunning pictures under the right circumstances, i maybe feel the first set was better than the second, because i didn't find motion or the local dimming so offensive from memory.

[clydebest]

Aaron please do not apologize for voicing your opinion, your opinion is as valid as any ones,all the issues you are seeing on your 853, none are visible on my VT50.so their is a good chance the VT50 is a tv that will bring you many hours of enjoyment.

[crawltochina]

Hi there,

i'm new to the forums. I registered here, because you seem to have a very nice community here.
I recently bought the 55" HX 855, the german model of the 853.

I attached the 3 pics to see whether my TV is "normal" or not. What I notice are the brighter borders on the sides, which are at a length of ca. 10cm more blueish than the middle of the screen. I know that this is an edge LED, so the light comes in from the sides. But I just want to know whether it is normal, that there are such great differences in brightness on the sides in comparison to the middle. I can see the more blueish sides sometimes durig normal TV. Does your screen look like this, too?

Second is some horizontal banding which you can see in the upper third of the screen. It's a dark line.

I also have DSE and a dead subpixel but that doesn't bother me too much.

Third picture shows some clouding in the upper right and the lower left of the scree. The pic is not very good but if you turn up brightness on your TFT it should be visible.

What do you think, does my screen look normal? I can order an exchange until Wednesday, but I am not that keen on repacking an unpacking the bis screen again.

Best regards

[DiamondTear]

@crwaltochina

I noticed the difference in brightness/color in the middle too, but I haven't seen it during normal viewing. That's on 46", so maybe it's different for 55".

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by crawltochina

Hi there,

i'm new to the forums. I registered here, because you seem to have a very nice community here.
I recently bought the 55" HX 855, the german model of the 853.

I attached the 3 pics to see whether my TV is "normal" or not. What I notice are the brighter borders on the sides, which are at a length of ca. 10cm more blueish than the middle of the screen. I know that this is an edge LED, so the light comes in from the sides. But I just want to know whether it is normal, that there are such great differences in brightness on the sides in comparison to the middle. I can see the more blueish sides sometimes durig normal TV. Does your screen look like this, too?

Second is some horizontal banding which you can see in the upper third of the screen. It's a dark line.

I also have DSE and a dead subpixel but that doesn't bother me too much.

Third picture shows some clouding in the upper right and the lower left of the scree. The pic is not very good but if you turn up brightness on your TFT it should be visible.

What do you think, does my screen look normal? I can order an exchange until Wednesday, but I am not that keen on repacking an unpacking the bis screen again.

Best regards

I do not wish to come across as trying to be clever,but the only opinion on the quality of your tv that matters is your own.The picture you posted are all off blank screens,which I assume you consider you see faults,are those faults clearly visible whilst you are viewing HD,SD,Blu Ray content if they are it is faulty,if they are not, then your tv is probably as clean a LED as you can buy.If your 853 has. genuine faults they will show up clearly enough to leave you in no doubt your853 has them.I agree with you the people on the 853 thread are helpful and pleasant,the same can not be said for all owner threads.

[scott1773]

need help with the sony 40 kdl hx853 i have had 2 delivered and i sent both back because i wasnt happy with the quality of the silver trim around the tv its all to do with the bottom right corner of the trim where there is a gap int he trim of about 2-3 mil so its not one free flowing trim theres a break in it has anyone seen or have the same issue

[NickPerceptive]

Did anyone find a decent, well price stand for the 40" version?

[scott1773]

Originally Posted by NickPerceptive

Did anyone find a decent, well price stand for the 40" version?

nick do you have this tv if so do you have the same problem i have in the post above cheers

[crawltochina]

@clydebest and DiamondTear

Thanks for your replies!

For me it's important whether the "faults" on my TV are normal. I really like the TV and i only would try to exchange if there's a good chance to get a better set.
So it would really help me if someone with a 55" HX 853 could post a picture with a grey test screen to see whether it looks similar to mine.

I can attach the test pics if you don't have them.

I really appreciate your help.

[NickPerceptive]

Originally Posted by scott1773

nick do you have this tv if so do you have the same problem i have in the post above cheers

yes it's the same on mine. not sure why you would return it just for that though, i hadn't even noticed it.

[scott1773]

the reason i returned it is because in my opinion it spoils the tvs look and is a bad piece of design on sonys part it just doesnt look right(if anyone knows why they would do this please let me know as im stumped as to why)

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by scott1773

need help with the sony 40 kdl hx853 i have had 2 delivered and i sent both back because i wasnt happy with the quality of the silver trim around the tv its all to do with the bottom right corner of the trim where there is a gap int he trim of about 2-3 mil so its not one free flowing trim theres a break in it has anyone seen or have the same issue

I have read about the issue in your comment before,though i can not be certain but i beleive it comes within spec,and as such is not classed a fault by Sony.

[scott1773]

Originally Posted by clydebest

I have read about the issue in your comment before,though i can not be certain but i beleive it comes within spec,and as such is not classed a fault by Sony.

because of this gap im not happy with the look it gives so john lewis are giving me a full refund sony also told me there should be no break or gap in the silver trim

[clydebest]

Originally Posted by scott1773

because of this gap im not happy with the look it gives so john lewis are giving me a full refund sony also told me there should be no break or gap in the silver trim

I am wrong and apologise

[fluxo]

Originally Posted by scott1773

because of this gap im not happy with the look it gives so john lewis are giving me a full refund sony also told me there should be no break or gap in the silver trim

I guess it depends on how big a gap it is. But there is going to be a join
or gap. The iPhone 4 has a band that runs around it that also has a gap.
It's the nature of that sort of design.

[Camuraj]

Originally Posted by crawltochina

@clydebest and DiamondTear

Thanks for your replies!

For me it's important whether the "faults" on my TV are normal. I really like the TV and i only would try to exchange if there's a good chance to get a better set.
So it would really help me if someone with a 55" HX 853 could post a picture with a grey test screen to see whether it looks similar to mine.

I can attach the test pics if you don't have them.

I really appreciate your help.

Send me the test pict.

[crawltochina]

Here are the test pics, thanks in advance!

[scott1773]

Originally Posted by fluxo

I guess it depends on how big a gap it is. But there is going to be a join
or gap. The iPhone 4 has a band that runs around it that also has a gap.
It's the nature of that sort of design.

The gap is about 2-3mm but Sony told me there should be no gap or join it should be all one flowing piece with no visable gap/join

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by scott1773

The gap is about 2-3mm but Sony told me there should be no gap or join it should be all one flowing piece with no visable gap/join

My 55HX853 has a visible gap on the bottom right corner, as has been said, with this design a slight gap is to be expected.

Pictures attached.

Aaron

[scott1773]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

My 55HX853 has a visible gap on the bottom right corner, as has been said, with this design a slight gap is to be expected.

Pictures attached.

Aaron

Yes that's the gap as posted but the thing is can anyone tell why this gap is there because when I spoke to Sony they said there should be no gap at all and should be one continuos trim you would like to think theese parts would be moulded/machined as one part

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by scott1773

Yes that's the gap as posted but the thing is can anyone tell why this gap is there because when I spoke to Sony they said there should be no gap at all and should be one continuos trim you would like to think theese parts would be moulded/machined as one part

It would cost a lot more money to manufacture in this way, raising the price of the tv.

The problem is, the people on the phone at these centres often don't have a clue, its sad but true.

It personally doesn't bother me one bit, the banding and clouding i have, are far more annoying.

Aaron

[scott1773]

For me I think it looks too messy and can't believe Sony released a tv like that and sadly didn't get far enough to enjoy the tv and the functions it has

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by scott1773

For me I think it looks too messy and can't believe Sony released a tv like that and sadly didn't get far enough to enjoy the tv and the functions it has

On my 55inch it is so small i haven't even noticed it once, only going up to the tv and looking for it was the first time i have noticed it tbh.

Have a look around at other manufacturers, heck even the Panasonic VT50 which costs £2000 has similar gaps in it's bezel.

The Samsung plasma's are said to have poor build quality also.

Guess your only option is to see what set you can live with design wise.

Good luck.

Aaron