[Curly99]

This thread is a continuation of the part 1 thread here:

LCD -matrices,differences and what models are placed

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Originally Posted by dadash

I had my panel replaced recently and I noted the new panel,

LC420EUF (SD)(PX) factory ID: LGDGZ
420B4FLxxxxxx 772B
serial number: 6900L-0518A April2012 xxxxxxxxPBV0518A47AW

Any ideas what kind of panel I have now?

[mantis13]

Does anyone know (hristoslav2) what panels are inside the samsung 32EH5000 and in what percentage is possible the trashy (cmi)? Is it worth the risk?
The first one i have with cmi panel (32P6AFOD) was unwatchable (dark scenes and black and white films) because of unacceptable viewing angle and gamma color shift.
Hopefully i return it because of a dead pixel.
Thanks.

[dadash]

Originally Posted by mantis13

Does anyone know (hristoslav2) what panels are inside the samsung 32EH5000 and in what percentage is possible the trashy (cmi)? Is it worth the risk?
The first one i have with cmi panel (32P6AFOD) was unwatchable (dark scenes and black and white films) because of unacceptable viewing angle and gamma color shift.
Hopefully i return it because of a dead pixel.
Thanks.

I had a Samsung UE40ES5700 with a terrible panel, it couldn't show black or brown. Black was dark navy blue and brown was grey!!

It was a CMI and I sent it back for full refund after 2 days. I didnt bother with any more samsungs because of the stupid time consuming panel lottery.

I've settled for an LG 42LW579S, it has very good colours and viewing angle but has the typical LG slight clouding and banding. I had to have the LG panel replaced because it was faulty out of the box. I'm pleased with the replacement and good LG home repair service.

My new LG panel is the one above and I would appreciate some info on it.

[hristoslav2]

herosrule
what are panasonic doing are they now reserving there IPS alpha panels for larger sizes only? or are they still available up to 37" but may be missed out on 42"

Panasonic sold one of its factory (for 32-37") to consortium Japan Display (Sony Mobile Display, Toshiba Mobile Display and Hitachi Displays. )
Japan Display Inc.
Now no capacity to cover the entire range of sizes that sell televisions.
So buy all sizes smaller than 42 "/ including /.

dadash
I had my panel replaced recently and I noted the new panel,

LC420EUF (SD)(PX) factory ID: LGDGZ
420B4FLxxxxxx 772B
serial number: 6900L-0518A April2012 xxxxxxxxPBV0518A47AW

Any ideas what kind of panel I have now?

LC420EUF - 42 - 42" size / E - ?? / U-Full HD / F - passive 3D ? - S-IPS
factory ID: LGDGZ - LG Display Guangzhou (China)
http://panjiva.com/LG-Display-Guangzhou-Co-Ltd/1479778

Philips 42PFL6007T/12 - LG Display LC420EUF (FE)(P1)

[mantis13]

The most ironic thing i heard was from samsung service in greece that all samsung 32eh5000 have the same panel.
Maybe all tvs who sell to fools customers like me because on shelves stores i saw much better panel and viewing angle.

[Lookinside66]

Hello Everybody,
I just bought an Philips 32PFL7406K 02.
The Panel Code is 356.
Does anybody know which panel is used in this TV?
Tanks for any hint

[hristoslav2]

Originally Posted by Lookinside66

Hello Everybody,
I just bought an Philips 32PFL7406K 02.
The Panel Code is 356.
Does anybody know which panel is used in this TV?
Tanks for any hint

if memory serves, the panel is
LG Display LC320EUF-SCR1 Overview - Panelook.com

[jono t]

Hi hristoslav, back in may you said that,this was the 2012 LG LM panel ( FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1) i have checked this panel on the web and it is discontinuded, how can this be on a 2012 model, it also says it is hazed anti glare,which the LM models are not. are you sure this is the right panel in the LM series.
thanks in advance. jono.

[hristoslav2]

Information from official service manuals
Regarding your inquiry, that model is discontinued from:
I think it's normal. Often a model is produced videopanel for one year and then be suspended from production and replaced by another one.

Alternatively, the panel is OЕМ - that is manufactured on demand / request.

LG 2012

FHD 50Hz Edge LED
32” 50 W Normal : T320HVN01.0-AUO- 32LS5700
32” Normal : LC320EUN-SEM1- 32LS5700
42” 70 W Normal : LC420EUE-SEM1- 42LS5700
47” 85 W Normal : LC470EUE-SEM1- 47LS5700
55” W Normal : LC550EUE-SEM1- 55LS5700

FHD T100Hz Edge LED
32” 45 W FPR : LC320EUN-SEF2- 32LM6200
32” 50 W FPR : LC320EUA-KEF1- 32LM6400
37” 50 W FPR : LC370EUN-SEF2- 37LM6200
42” 60 W FPR : LC420EUE-SEF1- 42LM6200
42” 60 W FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1- 42LM6600
42” FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1- 42LM6700
47” 90 W FPR : LC470EUE-SEF1- 47LM6200
47” 70 W FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1- 47LM6400
47” FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1- 47LM6690
47” FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1- 47LM6700
55” 115 W FPR : LC550EUE-SEF1 - 55LM6200
55” 70 W FPR : LC550EUG-KEF1- 55LM6400
55” FPR : LC550EUG-KEF1- 55LM6700

FHD M100Hz Edge LED
65” 230 W FPR : T645HB01 V0 - 65LM6200-AUO

FHD T200Hz Edge LED
42” 70 W FPR : LC420EUH-KEF1- 42LM7600
47” 90 W FPR : LC470EUH-KEF147- 47LM7600
55” 120 W FPR : LC550EUH-KEF1- 55LM7600

Main processors

LM8600,LM9600
LG L9
CPU-Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 1Ghz
GPU-Mali-400 MP4

LM7600,LM6***
MediaTek MT5369

[jono t]

Originally Posted by hristoslav2

Information from official service manuals
Regarding your inquiry, that model is discontinued from:
I think it's normal. Often a model is produced videopanel for one year and then be suspended from production and replaced by another one.

Alternatively, the panel is OЕМ - that is manufactured on demand / request.

LG 2012

FHD 50Hz Edge LED
32” 50 W Normal : T320HVN01.0-AUO- 32LS5700
32” Normal : LC320EUN-SEM1- 32LS5700
42” 70 W Normal : LC420EUE-SEM1- 42LS5700
47” 85 W Normal : LC470EUE-SEM1- 47LS5700
55” W Normal : LC550EUE-SEM1- 55LS5700

FHD T100Hz Edge LED
32” 45 W FPR : LC320EUN-SEF2- 32LM6200
32” 50 W FPR : LC320EUA-KEF1- 32LM6400
37” 50 W FPR : LC370EUN-SEF2- 37LM6200
42” 60 W FPR : LC420EUE-SEF1- 42LM6200
42” 60 W FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1- 42LM6600
42” FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1- 42LM6700
47” 90 W FPR : LC470EUE-SEF1- 47LM6200
47” 70 W FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1- 47LM6400
47” FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1- 47LM6690
47” FPR : LC470EUG-KEF1- 47LM6700
55” 115 W FPR : LC550EUE-SEF1 - 55LM6200
55” 70 W FPR : LC550EUG-KEF1- 55LM6400
55” FPR : LC550EUG-KEF1- 55LM6700

FHD M100Hz Edge LED
65” 230 W FPR : T645HB01 V0 - 65LM6200-AUO

FHD T200Hz Edge LED
42” 70 W FPR : LC420EUH-KEF1- 42LM7600
47” 90 W FPR : LC470EUH-KEF147- 47LM7600
55” 120 W FPR : LC550EUH-KEF1- 55LM7600

Main processors

LM8600,LM9600
LG L9
CPU-Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 1Ghz
GPU-Mali-400 MP4

LM7600,LM6***
MediaTek MT5369

this one (42” FPR : LC420EUG-KEF1- 42LM6700) cannot be found, keeps coming up with this one( LC420EUG-SCR1) dicontinued.

[hideos trait]

hi hristolav2,excellent thread btw. concerning sony 46hx850 panel:FQL(R)460LT01 vs. sony 46hx820 panel:FQL(L)460LT01. you have probably already explained,but il try satisfy my curiosity. What does the letter R denote on the hx850 vs. the letter L on the hx820 in panel codes? as all the other refs are same... Thank you in advance.

[hristoslav2]

Originally Posted by hideos trait

hi hristolav2,excellent thread btw. concerning sony 46hx850 panel:FQL(R)460LT01 vs. sony 46hx820 panel:FQL(L)460LT01. you have probably already explained,but il try satisfy my curiosity. What does the letter R denote on the hx850 vs. the letter L on the hx820 in panel codes? as all the other refs are same... Thank you in advance.

Sorry. I dont know ....
https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.co...A1872935C.aspx
https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.co...A1872935A.aspx
Sony 46hx850 panel: FQLR460LT01 - S-PVA; (SAMSUNG) - with Local Dimming
Sony 46hx820 panel: LSY460HQ01 - FQLL460LT01 - S-PVA (SAMSUNG) -

Note that the panels in models 850 and 920 are the same!
Sony 46HX920 - FQLR460LT01 - S-PVA (SAMSUNG) - with Local Dimming

Foto HX820 http://multiplayer.it/forum/10047031-post1226.html
1^ foto HX855 http://www.hifi-forum.de/bild/dsc00819_179143.html
2^ foto HX855 http://www.hifi-forum.de/bild/dsc00822_179146.html

[mantis13]

Hi Hristoslav2
Do you know what the difference between chi lin and chi mei s-mva panels?
Which of two do you think is in the photo from a samsung 32EH5000(P6AF0D)?

[nickdc986]

What about LG 26LS3500 panel, any news?

[hristoslav2]

Hi Mantis13
Сhilin is a division of Chimei and do not produce LCD matrix !
Chilin Display Solutions: OEM/ODM commercial display products
Chilin manufactured and assembled - backlighting and housings vieopanels.
Chilin receive LCD matrix from Chimei.
Welcome to CHIMEI-INNOLUX

[adtomov]

Originally Posted by mantis13

Hi Hristoslav2
Do you know what the difference between chi lin and chi mei s-mva panels?
Which of two do you think is in the photo from a samsung 32EH5000(P6AF0D)?

Hi, mantis 13...
What exactly have You planned to achieve with that type of question?
"Which of two.." What two? There is only one picture, dude... M?


Mmmm, info for all.. TOSHIBA 55ZL2G.. First 3D TV without glasses.. AUO quadHD panel... 've had no chance to take a picture, but the rear sticker info and up-close eyepiece observation confirmed that fact...

[hristoslav2]

*** ?
China Star Optoelectronics Technology's High-Generation LCD Panel Project Starts Production - Corporate News - TCL Corporation - The Creative Life!

[adtomov]

Originally Posted by hristoslav2

*** ?
China Star Optoelectronics Technology's High-Generation LCD Panel Project Starts Production - Corporate News - TCL Corporation - The Creative Life!

U-haaa! China's life! With serious regards for the future.. "Garde a vous", degrading societies of the West!...

[herosrule]

herosrule
what are panasonic doing are they now reserving there IPS alpha panels for larger sizes only? or are they still available up to 37" but may be missed out on 42"
Panasonic sold one of its factory (for 32-37") to consortium Japan Display (Sony Mobile Display, Toshiba Mobile Display and Hitachi Displays. )
Japan Display Inc.
Now no capacity to cover the entire range of sizes that sell televisions.
So buy all sizes smaller than 42 "/ including /.

Ok im still confused. so does this mean that from now on there wont IPS-alpha panels in 32" and 37" models any-more and what about 42" and 47" models? im a bit worried now as without IPS alpha panels panasonics will be nothing more than overpriced LG`s

[Qbaas]

http://download.p4c.philips.com/file...12_ep3_eng.pdf

LG/LC320EUE-SEM1 (S-IPS):
LG Display LC320EUE-SEM1 Overview - Panelook.com

46PFL5007H/12
46PFL5007K/12
46PFL5007M/08
46PFL5007T/12

Anyone know what matrix is installed in Philips 32PFL4007 (Panel brand/model)

[hristoslav2]

Originally Posted by qbaas

http://download.p4c.philips.com/file...12_ep3_eng.pdf

lg/lc320eue-sem1 (s-ips):
lg display lc320eue-sem1 overview - panelook.com

46pfl5007h/12
46pfl5007k/12
46pfl5007m/08
46pfl5007t/12

anyone know what matrix is installed in philips 32pfl4007 (panel brand/model)

32pfl4007 - lc320eue (lg)
37pfl4007 - lc370eue (lg)
42pfl4007 - lc420eue (lg)
47pfl4007 - lc470eue (lg)

[hristoslav2]

Sony HX850
FQLR400LT01 Samsung S-PVA with PSA
FQLR460LT01 Samsung S-PVA with PSA
FQLR550LT01 Samsung S-PVA with PSA

Sony HX750
LSY400HQ01 - FQLL400LT01 Samsung S-PVA
LSY460HQ01 - FQLL460LT01 Samsung S-PVA
LSY550HQ01 - FQLF550DT01 Samsung S-PVA

Sony EX650
LTY460HN0501 Samsung S-PVA
LTY400HM1001 Samsung S-PVA
LTY320HN0301 Samsung S-PVA


Philips 2011
32PFL4606H - 124 - LGD LC320WUY SCA1
37PFL4606H - 125 - LGD LC370WUY SCA1
32PFL5206H - 139
32PFL5606H - 129 - LC320EUG

42PFL4506H - 126 - LGD LC420WUY SCA1
42PFL4606H - 126 - LGD LC420WUY SCA1
42PFL7606H - 361 - LGD LC420ЕUО (SD) (F1)
42PDL7906H - 361 - LGD LC420ЕUО (SD) (F1)

47PFL4606H - 127 - LGD LC470WUH SCA1

[phepsy1234]

Hello everybody,
a question about Philips 7xx6 (2011 series):
do they have a 100Hz or a 200Hz panel?

(HERE I found 100Hz and THERE I found 200Hz)

(is there any option code ruling it?)


thanks

[dadash]

What's LG's 400hz MCI, 600hz MCI and 800hz MCI equivalent to in real hz terms?

[hristoslav2]

Originally Posted by phepsy1234

Hello everybody,
a question about Philips 7xx6 (2011 series):
do they have a 100Hz or a 200Hz panel?

(HERE I found 100Hz and THERE I found 200Hz)
(is there any option code ruling it?)

thanks

Philips
1200Hz PMR = 200Hz panel + blinking backlight + scanning backlight /+200Hz/ + HD Natural Motion + Perfect Natural Motion/+400Hz/ + 2D dimming /224 segments/ + bright pro

800 Hz PMR = 200 Hz(true)
400 Hz PMR =100 Hz(true)
200 Hz PMR = 50 Hz(true)
100 Hz PMR = 50 Hz(true)

PFL6606 = 400 Hz (100 Hz Clear LCD + DNM + Pixel Plus HD)
PFL7606 = 400 Hz (100 Hz Clear LCD + HDNM + Pixel Plus HD)
32PFL9606 = 600 Hz (200 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD)
40PFL9606 = 800 Hz (400 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD)
52PFL9606 = 1000 Hz (400 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD + LED Pro)
46PFL9706 = 1200 Hz (400 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD + LED Pro + Bright Pro)

Originally Posted by dadash

What's LG's 400hz MCI, 600hz MCI and 800hz MCI equivalent to in real hz terms?

MCI 1000 = TruMotion 400Hz = 200Ηz (true) + 200Hz scanning backlight
MCI 800 = TruMotion 200Hz = 100Ηz (true) + 100Hz scanning backlight
MCI 400 = TruMotion 100Hz = 100Hz (true)
MCI 200 = TruMotion 100Hz = 100Hz (true)
MCI 100 = 50Hz (true)

[dadash]

very informative, thanks...so what would LG MCI 600 be?

[phepsy1234]

Originally Posted by hristoslav2

Philips
1200Hz PMR = 200Hz panel + blinking backlight + scanning backlight /+200Hz/ + HD Natural Motion + Perfect Natural Motion/+400Hz/ + 2D dimming /224 segments/ + bright pro

800 Hz PMR = 200 Hz(true)
400 Hz PMR =100 Hz(true)
200 Hz PMR = 50 Hz(true)
100 Hz PMR = 50 Hz(true)

PFL6606 = 400 Hz (100 Hz Clear LCD + DNM + Pixel Plus HD)
PFL7606 = 400 Hz (100 Hz Clear LCD + HDNM + Pixel Plus HD)
32PFL9606 = 600 Hz (200 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD)
40PFL9606 = 800 Hz (400 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD)
52PFL9606 = 1000 Hz (400 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD + LED Pro)
46PFL9706 = 1200 Hz (400 Hz Clear LCD + PNM + Perfect Pixel HD + LED Pro + Bright Pro)

So then 7606 (400Hz PMR) and 7676 (600Hz PMR) have both 100Hz (true). This link invites to think if they initially were designed to have 200Hz (see "IFC" column) ....

[hristoslav2]

Originally Posted by dadash

very informative, thanks...so what would LG MCI 600 be?

Honestly I have not thought about, but probably 100Hz (true)

http://www.lgoled.tv/
http://www.lgsmartworld.com/
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroom/contents/62333

Originally Posted by phepsy1234

So then 7606 (400Hz PMR) and 7676 (600Hz PMR) have both 100Hz (true). This link invites to think if they initially were designed to have 200Hz (see "IFC" column) ....

In the column I fill indicator PMR ...

[TvFinder]

Hi Hristoslav2,

do you have any information about the Samsung 40 ES6800?
I see that this tv has almost all the features of higher models (7000-8000) but with a dramatically lower price.
Something more should be there...

I am going to send back a Sony HX850 because the whites are so punching despite of any adjustment you can try.
I was wondering if this Sony is sharing the same panel with these Samsung models.

Thanks as always for your kind answer.

[hristoslav2]

Hi TvFinder
The difference in price is determined by different chassis, panel and processor.

Model - Firmware - processors
E420 -> E450 -> T-MST9DEUC-1002.0 X9 -> MStar X9 600Mhz MStar
EH4003 -> EH6003 -> T-NVTE4DEUC-10xx.x -> Novatek Welcome to Novatek
EH4000 -> ЕН5000 -> T-MST9DEUC-1002.0 X9 -> MStar X9 600Mhz MStar
EH5300 -> ЕН5450 -> T-MST10PDEUC-1005.2 X10 -> MStar X10 900Mhz MStar
ES5500 -> ЕS6800 -> T-MST10PDEUC-1005.2 X10 -> MStar X10 900Mhz MStar
ES7000, ЕS7500, ES8000 -> T-ECPDEUC-0145.6 -> Echo-P CPU-Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 1Ghz GPU-Mali-400 MP4
ES6900, ЕS7100, ЕS7200 -> T-MST10PDEUC-1005.2 X10 -> MStar X10 900Mhz MStar MStar Europe


Do not use the same panel
Sony 40hx850 panel: FQLR400LT01 - S-PVA; (SAMSUNG)
Sony 46hx850 panel: FQLR460LT01 - S-PVA; (SAMSUNG) - with Local Dimming

Samsung ES8000 - panels
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:20012-113#3983

LSJ600HQ01 - Sharp
LTJ550HQ16-V - AML
LTJ460HQ16-V - AML
LTJ400HQ16-V - AML

AML - AMLCD DIVISION Samsung Electronics Co. , LTD