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Old 02-08-2012, 8:27 PM   #511
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I have the 47" and I didn't realize problems until I watched football.

There are MANY dark/light patches on the screen. It's not noticeable when watching movies or regular shows, but when watching football, the green grass shows how patchy the screen is.

I'd like to know who else has this (I read a similar experience with someone above) and if this can be corrected somehow. I've been happy with the screen but this patchy problem is a serious turn off for me. It's as if there is a filter/screen on top of the TV making the image looking dirty.

Also banding issues are very evident, makes the TV look cheap at times.

One more thing to add, I don't think the volume goes up much further past 30, the volume remains very similar.
 
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I have the 47" and I didn't realize problems until I watched football.

There are MANY dark/light patches on the screen. It's not noticeable when watching movies or regular shows, but when watching football, the green grass shows how patchy the screen is.

I'd like to know who else has this (I read a similar experience with someone above) and if this can be corrected somehow. I've been happy with the screen but this patchy problem is a serious turn off for me. It's as if there is a filter/screen on top of the TV making the image looking dirty.

Also banding issues are very evident, makes the TV look cheap at times.

One more thing to add, I don't think the volume goes up much further past 30, the volume remains very similar.
Try the settings as suggested here:

PicturePerfect : AVForums campaign to improve television pictures | AVForums.com - UK Online

You can tweak them after to suit if you feel you need to, only thing I did was increase the backlight..
 
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Try the settings as suggested here:

PicturePerfect : AVForums campaign to improve television pictures | AVForums.com - UK Online

You can tweak them after to suit if you feel you need to, only thing I did was increase the backlight..
Thanks. I've had a dabble at the settings a few times and think I reached a good point, but I will give that a go and come back with any differences.

EDIT: Okay I followed the steps and I've done them all before, nothing new but I did like how easy to follow the guide was for those who are new to TV settings. Interested to see what step 3 will be.

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Thanks. I've had a dabble at the settings a few times and think I reached a good point, but I will give that a go and come back with any differences.

EDIT: Okay I followed the steps and I've done them all before, nothing new but I did like how easy to follow the guide was for those who are new to TV settings. Interested to see what step 3 will be.
Are the patchy issues reduced if you turn the backlight down? Generally speaking those kinds of issues will diminish with a lower backlight setting, if you can lower it, and correct for the dimming with the other settings, then you may find they go, it can be difficult to get the right balance though.
 
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It's probably because there's been an unusual amount of sport on tv since I bought my 620T, but I do still notice the banding or "dirty screen effect" despite running the Picture Perfect settings. I am wondering if it's worth contacting LG about it, or whether all LED sets display this to some degree. It might be worth nipping into a shop to see what their display set looks like, while the Olympics are still on. Bearing in mind there settings will be Vivid so should show up banding if it's common. Hmm, it's the only negative about this set, perhaps when the sport is over I won't notice it so much...
 
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Are the patchy issues reduced if you turn the backlight down? Generally speaking those kinds of issues will diminish with a lower backlight setting, if you can lower it, and correct for the dimming with the other settings, then you may find they go, it can be difficult to get the right balance though.
I put the backlight down from 80 to 30, it might have helped with the larger patches, but I need to watch more football to make certain (just put on women's olympic football). With a low backlight, what's the best setting to increase for a brighter setting, the screen does look a tad dark now.

EDIT: Having watched for 10 minutes, I can still see the patches. It's as if there is a shadow following the camera as it moves from left-right on the grass. When the camera is zoomed in, it looks fine. But when the camera is capturing half of the pitch and trying to follow the ball it looks like my screen needs a good clean - darker patches all over.

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I put the backlight down from 80 to 30, it might have helped with the larger patches, but I need to watch more football to make certain (just put on women's olympic football). With a low backlight, what's the best setting to increase for a brighter setting, the screen does look a tad dark now.

EDIT: Having watched for 10 minutes, I can still see the patches. It's as if there is a shadow following the camera as it moves from left-right on the grass. When the camera is zoomed in, it looks fine. But when the camera is capturing half of the pitch and trying to follow the ball it looks like my screen needs a good clean - darker patches all over.
Contrast should lighten it up a bit, and brightness will need to be adjusted with it. You need to watch out for putting contrast too high though, it can lead to crushed detail in bright areas. What's the lighting in the room like?

If it's not really helping though, it could be an issue with something else.
 
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Contrast should lighten it up a bit, and brightness will need to be adjusted with it. You need to watch out for putting contrast too high though, it can lead to crushed detail in bright areas. What's the lighting in the room like?

If it's not really helping though, it could be an issue with something else.
Okay thanks. The lighting in the room comes from the window on the right. Don't normally watch TV with the fluorescent ceiling light on. So it's either natural light from the window or darkness.
 
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Hi all, regarding the sound issues previously mentioned in this thread. I own 2 of these TVs and now frequently expirience it on both TVs, but as previously mentioned it only happens on BBC1 HD using the inbuilt speakers. Over the last couple of weeks its gradualy gotten worse with the sound cutting out every 20 or so minutes and then today i experienced the loud screeching noise for the first time.

I bought my first TV from currys on 5/5/12 for £699 (Manufacture date April 2012) and then as we were initially very impressed with the TV and we wanted a TV for the bedroom we bough a second one from richer sounds on the 21/6/12 for £689 with 5yr Guarantee (Manufacture date May 2012).

Its only in the last few weeks that we have started to experience the sound issues but as i said it happens frequently on both TVs, the TV downstairs has the latest firmware installed and the TV upstairs has the original firmware as we have yet to buy a wireless dongle.

So to sum it up both TVs have different manufacture dates and different firmware, so that only leads me to beleive that you all have this problem also, so i ask you if possible to try BBC1 HD using the TVs built in tuner and speakers and see if your sound constantly cuts out or you get the loud screaching noise.

Needless to say im not very happy at all so where do i stand with this matter and what should i do now as im no longer happy with my purchases and i obviously have no faith what so ever in a replacement? Any help would be greatly appreiciated.

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It does seem strange that it only happens on BBC1 HD with built in tuner, if it was a hardware or speaker fault you'd think it would happen on all channels.
I remember reading a post similar about signals being to strong and they were told to buy a Aerial Attenuator to try to solve the problem....
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"Now for the problems. I moved to a newish flat with a communal aerial. Very good picture but then the troubles started - After a few minutes from switch on the sound would disappear and the TV would lock up. Only way round this was to switch the TV off and then on. This would fix the sound issue but would then repeat several times. Eventually (when TV properly warmed up) the problem would not appear again. The other issue would be that the sound changes to a frigtening lous buzz/whistle instead of completely no sound.

The problem was reported to Amazon who promptly replaced the TV (no questions asked). However, my replacement TV is behaving in the same manner. This time I phoned the LG customer service line. The guy was really helpful and told me that this is a known issue with the LM series of TV. The problem results when the anteena signal is too strong (this can be checked in th settings / signal test). and can be resolved by fitting an inline attenuator of e.g 6 or 12 db available from many stores. I got one from Maplin for convenience.

So, to all prospective buyers, this will only affect people in very high signal areas and is easily resolved. Otherwise I recommend this TV as great value and a good product"
 
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Old 04-08-2012, 5:01 PM   #522
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Thanks very much for the reply john039.

I phoned LG this morning and they had me test the signal and i am indeed getting 100% strength on every frequency, so they said i would need an Aerial Attenuator to reduce the power. Just hopes this does the trick as i had been really happy with the TVs and havnt experienced any of the other issues such as banding.

Ill post back when ive give it a go and let you know if it works. I dont know you cant win eh, if your signals not too weak its too strong .

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It's probably because there's been an unusual amount of sport on tv since I bought my 620T, but I do still notice the banding or "dirty screen effect" despite running the Picture Perfect settings. I am wondering if it's worth contacting LG about it, or whether all LED sets display this to some degree. It might be worth nipping into a shop to see what their display set looks like, while the Olympics are still on. Bearing in mind there settings will be Vivid so should show up banding if it's common. Hmm, it's the only negative about this set, perhaps when the sport is over I won't notice it so much...
Am also noticing especially with athletics and football that the background (especially when of the crowd) blurs on fast movement and sometimes jitters (especially when bright in the background such as metal or buildings).

I've been through the Picture Wizard and my picture option settings are:

Noise Red. - Off
MPEG N R - Off
Real. Cinema - Off
TruMotion - User ( De-Judder 2)

This is actually my second set as the first was returned due to constant hissing on the speaker. Have had it for almost a week andonly noticed tonight but once you notice you can't then un-notice it

Any ideas?
 
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Hi Xray, try these settings, as the 620 has no Local Dimming.

Game Mode.

Backlight 60
contrast 75
brightness 55
sharpness 30
colour 55
tint 0
colour temp W 40

Advanceed control

dynamic contrast off
dynamic colour off
clear white off

Perfect colour
Skin -1
Grass 2
Sky colour -1
super res on
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N/R off
MPEG off
Black level low
Eye care off
these are really good
 
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these are really good
Good settings but sharpness is way too high in my opinion. I think 15 is about right
 
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Okay thanks. The lighting in the room comes from the window on the right. Don't normally watch TV with the fluorescent ceiling light on. So it's either natural light from the window or darkness.
These issues are normally more obvious in darkness, some ambient light in the room should make it a bit better, but if you can still see it with the light through the window then it's obviously a bit of an issue (likewise I wouldn't fancy settling down for the evening with bright ceiling lights on).
 
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Am also noticing especially with athletics and football that the background (especially when of the crowd) blurs on fast movement and sometimes jitters (especially when bright in the background such as metal or buildings).

I've been through the Picture Wizard and my picture option settings are:

Noise Red. - Off
MPEG N R - Off
Real. Cinema - Off
TruMotion - User ( De-Judder 2)

This is actually my second set as the first was returned due to constant hissing on the speaker. Have had it for almost a week andonly noticed tonight but once you notice you can't then un-notice it

Any ideas?
Hi thegrantonstar, turn tru-motion off, and turn real cinema on, also turn
super res on, this should clear up the picture and stop the stutter on fast motion. jono.
 
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Good settings but sharpness is way too high in my opinion. I think 15 is about right
HI iceman shapness is best at 30 as adjusting it lower, will affect the other settings ,eg colour will darken if sharpness is lowered, knocking out the rest of the balance.

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HI iceman shapness is best at 30 as adjusting it lower, will affect the other settings ,eg colour will darken if sharpness is lowered, knocking out the rest of the balance.

jono.
Really?

Even in Game Mode?

How does that work out? I thought sharpness just adds artificial sharpening to outlines and things like that, I didn't think it would effect the other settings.
 
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Really?

Even in Game Mode?

How does that work out? I thought sharpness just adds artificial sharpening to outlines and things like that, I didn't think it would effect the other settings.
Hi try turning your sharpness to zero, then gradually increase, do this on a paused picture with white in it and see how much the picture changes.You get the same effect with edge enhacer.
 
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Hi try turning your sharpness to zero, then gradually increase, do this on a paused picture with white in it and see how much the picture changes.You get the same effect with edge enhacer.
I'll give that a try later. Thanks.

Although whilst playing Gears 3 with 30 sharpness, it just looks way to unrealistic and sharp
 
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I'll give that a try later. Thanks.

Although whilst playing Gears 3 with 30 sharpness, it just looks way to unrealistic and sharp
If you are happy with a lower sharpness then thats fine everyone has there
own preference, you could try turning off super res, It may make you game more realistic.
 
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Hi thegrantonstar, turn tru-motion off, and turn real cinema on, also turn
super res on, this should clear up the picture and stop the stutter on fast motion. jono.
Thankyou very much. I'll give it a try.

I did a factory reset and went through all the setings again manually. It's a lot better, hopefully with these it will be perfect.
 
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Any info about a firmware update with the deblur option?
 
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Well after months of indecision and reading these forums i've ordered myself a 42LM620T. Going from a 6 year old Phillips 32" HD ready set to this, i'm very excited, bit like a kid with a new toy hoping i get a decent set and don't have any issues with it, but can't wait to pick it up tomorrow. Take it its worth updating the firmware straight away, then play about with the settings?
 
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I submitted a price match to John Lewis but accidentally entered an incorrect (and slightly lower amount) so subsequently sent a further price match request with correct price. John Lewis agreed to price match both (got reference numbers etc) so will they honour if I use the lower price?!

What is their aftersales like if I wish to return the tv if I notice significant banding or other issues that seem to be present on a number of these sets?

Many thanks to anyone that can advise! Really want to get one of these now after showing my 18 month old daughter the 3D effect in Currys at the weekend and seeing her reaching out to try and grab the baseballs coming towards her!
 
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So, I finally got round to setting up my 32LM620T, and after quiet a lot of fiddling/tweaking, think ive finally got the colour/picture settings right.

I do have one question though...When plugging in the Magic Remote dongle, the little booklet (for the remote) mentions finding the velcro spot on the TV and with which to stick the dongle onto the tv set. Problem is, I cant find where it is. It mentions something about peeling the cover of the velcro as well.

Can anyone advise on this?
 
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Hi.
Haven't read through the entire thread so don't know if this have been posted before but i have a problem with the 3D.
What happens is that a few times during a movie the picture doesn't update correctly.
I'm currently on my third version of this TV (first had a dead pixel and second had a hint of brown on a third of the screen) and all three of them have had the same problem. At first i thought it was because I used my ps3 with a hdmi 1.3 cable but the same problem occurs with my panasonic BDT500 with a hdmi 1.4 cable.
The only difference is that what happened on the ps3 was that the lower half of the screen turned grey for a frame while the top was normal. But on the panasonic its small lines of maybe 50 pixels wide white lines over the entire picture but as I said its only for a frame.
Only one movie didn't have this problem and that was Drive Angry but that one instead had a problem where the top third of the screen showed the previous frame a few times :s
I was so sure it was the ps3 but now I'm getting worried its the TV, just think its odd i would get three with the same problem if no one else is have the same issues.
Anyone got a clue what it might be?
 
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these are really good
I find that I need to change the backlight
according to what time of day it is. Bright
sunny day at noon backlight is at 55. Around
sunset at 45. Nighttime at 35. Also sharpness
on an HD signal any less than 50 is too
soft for me. I want "high-definition". I like
my color temp on cool and my clear white
on high as well. A good test is watching a
black and white movie. If the movie looks
greenish or brownish or sepia, then I feel
like I'm not getting true white. A black and
white film should be different shades of grey
(or gray).
 
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I'll give that a try later. Thanks.

Although whilst playing Gears 3 with 30 sharpness, it just looks way to unrealistic and sharp
so how did u end up adjusting the sharpness, 15? with super res on?
 
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