[Blackbat]

More on the "fluctuating brightness" I've experienced on a 55ES8000. This only happens with the Freesat tuner, not the freeview tuner, and only when watching BBC channels. It's somehow linked with the red button icon, in that just before the red button symbol appears on screen the brightness changes, and then changes again as the red button icon disappears. This happens constantly several times a minute and basically renders BBC channels unwatchable over Freesat. Has anyone else experienced this?

I spoke to Samsung yesterday who were convinced that it was the TV being set to dynamic mode which was causing this, but I've since realised that the brightness change occurs fractionally before the red button appears on screen. In any case, the TV wasn't set to dynamic mode and it does it in all modes apart from dynamic. As a workaround I have disabled digital text. No red button, no brightness variation, but this isn't a solution. Time to try a new set from John Lewis I guess.

[Zeroturn]

Just wondered if the 7000 & 8000 are lit differently, 7000 at the sides 8000 top and bottom maybe ?

Also what's the chance of me getting either model without backlight banding.

[mpatel]

Originally Posted by Graham S

Well, tried last night and had the same issues, after about 20-30 mins just shuts down and says disconnected from server.
Then tried to play the same file through the PS3 and got 'file corrupted'! Nearly had a glow in the dark remote through the screen at that point!

Just off to work now but will give that Serviio a try tonight. Thanks for all your help. Just hope I don't have to re-encode all my files as I'm just about to pass the 1TB mark and that may take a while!
Thanks for all your help.

Hi Graham

I had the same issues as you with the MKV's... the answer is just to rename them to .avi and you're all set (works with .mp4's too). I have a FreeNAS media server running with Serviio streaming wirelessly from another room and it works a treat (after many weeks of trying different setups, with Allshare, Windows Media Player, TVMobili etc). Serviio even lets you configure online streams as well! I get the occasional disconnect (about twice in 2 month) but it just needed a reboot of the media server and away it goes.

I have a bluray rip of an HD movie (1080p) which weighs in at 17GB and streams crystal clear.

Hope that helps...

[drsuave]

Originally Posted by ipabzi

What's the difference between 3500 and 4100? I looked up 4100 and they look the same

Slightly different design and the 3500 is rechargeable and the 4100 is not (i think lol)

[aircub]

Originally Posted by mpatel

Hi Graham

I had the same issues as you with the MKV's... the answer is just to rename them to .avi and you're all set (works with .mp4's too). I have a FreeNAS media server running with Serviio streaming wirelessly from another room and it works a treat (after many weeks of trying different setups, with Allshare, Windows Media Player, TVMobili etc). Serviio even lets you configure online streams as well! I get the occasional disconnect (about twice in 2 month) but it just needed a reboot of the media server and away it goes.

I have a bluray rip of an HD movie (1080p) which weighs in at 17GB and streams crystal clear.

Hope that helps...

Sorry but this only works because you are using a media server. Probably because the server is ignoring the header. Unfortunately this fix does not work when running Serviio direct from a PC.

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by drsuave

Slightly different design and the 3500 is rechargeable and the 4100 is not (i think lol)

Neither are rechargeable, 4100 are more squarish.

[aircub]

For anyone waiting to see the DT50 before deciding on the ES8000 - Cnet have posted a two star review calling it mediocre - very disappointing for Panasonic and a big surprise. The D8000 received four stars but the ES8000 has not been reviewed yet.
Panasonic TC-L47DT50 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review

[andyben]

It has!

Samsung UE55ES8000 Review | TVs | CNET UK

[aircub]

Originally Posted by andyben

It has!

No that is CNET UK - CNET.com is more thorough in its reviewing of picture quality as it does standard graphs and measurements on all its TV reviews enabling comparison. The review you mention is all about features but lightweight on actual picture measurement. However I can understand the confusion. CNET.com will be reviewing the UN version but for 2012 models they are the same except for voltage and TV tuner.

[Yanners]

so with reviews of the wt panasonics coming in, it seems that samsungs led's have the best black levels. only maybe the lg lm9600 can match or better it. so with all the probs of the Es 8000, it's still a good choice. seems that if you adjust the image ie. not have so bright you will not have too much light bleed etc. I am looking at getting one but I am afraid from some of the stories in this thread. I am upgrading from a sharp 52 lx2e. picture is fluid and hd great but blacks are weak and new smart feature look interesting ie Skype on tv built in.

[kc2]

What spec is the HDD USB port - will any old drive work or should some (e.g. USB3) be avioded?

[neil_gilroy]

For the Voice Control etc is there any benefit in buying a Samsung Blu Ray player? (I have a 2d model I will replace and want to buy a low end 3D Blu Ray player)

Thanks.

[whitehart]

Originally Posted by neil_gilroy

For the Voice Control etc is there any benefit in buying a Samsung Blu Ray player? (I have a 2d model I will replace and want to buy a low end 3D Blu Ray player)

Thanks.

i didnt bother i bought a philips 3000 series 3D blu-ray player low end

as i have a htpc as well with blu-ray - i just wanted a simple solution as well - throw in a disc and away you go kind of thing

[iamamoose]

I bought a WMN2000B and some Rigifix screws. Do I dare risk mounting it to the wall....

[Step 1 complete: slighten widen the wall mount holes as they're designed for M5 screws and the rigifix uses M6....]

[Step 2 complete: figure out position, decided on centre line 1050mm above floor level. Notice that the dimentions shown on the WMN2000B instructions are not accurate, it states the top of the TV would be 120mm above the brackets, but it's actually 160mm]

[newmeadows]

Originally Posted by iamamoose

I bought a WMN2000B and some Rigifix screws. Do I dare risk mounting it to the wall....

Waiting for my mount to arrive, let me know how you get on?

[SNMM]

Hi, for people with clouding issues, I found in a spanish forum a guy that post a tutorial how he found a way to get rid of the clouding in their unit, he say the problem are with the inside screws that are very tight to the screen, he solve the problem unscrewing a little more the screws in the area of the screen that have problems.

He did the same in more then one tv, to family and friends units with same problem, and always get the same results, zero clouding, even in the last years D8000/7000 panels.

Its unbelievable how Samsung dont see a simple thing like that fixed. But of course not everyone will try this with their expensive screens. And I am one of them, because Im afraid to do something wrong.


But the situation here is that its seems that really works.

Here: TUTORIAL: Eliminar CLOUDING en la serie ES8000 de Samsung

Sorry my poor english, im Portuguese

[DodgyTactics]

Originally Posted by SNMM

But the situation here is that its seems that really works.

Here: TUTORIAL: Eliminar CLOUDING en la serie ES8000 de Samsung

An very interesting tutorial, but somehow I think I might just manage to live with any clouding my set might have!!

[cosmaboy]

Originally Posted by DodgyTactics

An very interesting tutorial, but somehow I think I might just manage to live with any clouding my set might have!!

Any chance of this tutorial in English and anyone tried it??

[rob2278]

Originally Posted by cosmaboy

Any chance of this tutorial in English and anyone tried it??

Google translate, and it does have effect on issues

[whitehart]

Originally Posted by cosmaboy

Any chance of this tutorial in English and anyone tried it??

just did it, after quite a few beers! I thought what the heck! lol well its improved clouding in 3D no end - basically i dont have clouding in 3D anymore. i did have a little light bleed on the rhs of the screen I focused on the bottom and now that seems good, I need to work on the top right...not tonight though will leave that for teh moment so far yes theres an improvement

[Spank the Munky]

Well I have just setup my 3rd ES8000 from JL and I have to say while it isn't perfect (a little light bleed along the bottom right of the screen & tiny amount of clouding again at the bottom) it's a keeper

1st set was near perfect with just a tiny hint of clouding around 2cm sq at the bottom centre, and would have been perfect for my needs had it not had a dead pixel and at this price I wasn't prepared to accept that

2nd set was just plain bad, huge light bleed at every corner, bad banding and to top it off another dead pixel.


Finally happy the set swapping is over

[MRn00b]

So that's 3 people so far who have tried the "loosening of the screws" trick who have all been successful? Any chance we can start a list going to see whos tried it, and outcome so people can see if it's worth doing, so far it's 100% success rate :D

Will removing the back screws not void warranty though? Just a thought as sometimes the screws have a locking thread so Samsung may know its been opened?

[Mant]

I'd give it a go if mine wasn't on the wall. Maybe when the next firmware comes out - where i'd have to take it off to get to the USB sockets

It sounds like a plausible solution to clouding though, as these screws might be creating too much pressure on the screen behind it. I thought when adding the mount brackets would also do this, so I made sure I didn't do the screws Mr Universe tight.

[MRn00b]

Just to alert people who want to try this, he has labelled one screw BOTH "Bottom Right Corner" and further down the same screw "Middle Right Screw" so be careful you don't do the 2.5 turns TWICE!!!

Sounds very positive though, would defo explain why the sets are like a lottery because of different tightening strengths, shows these sets are probably hand built for that part of production line. If by machine, would be no issues :o

[aircub]

Originally Posted by MRn00b

Just to alert people who want to try this, he has labelled one screw BOTH "Bottom Right Corner" and further down the same screw "Middle Right Screw" so be careful you don't do the 2.5 turns TWICE!!!

Sounds very positive though, would defo explain why the sets are like a lottery because of different tightening strengths, shows these sets are probably hand built for that part of production line. If by machine, would be no issues :o

Normally production workers use electric or air Torque Drivers to avoid stripping threads or under tightening but obviously the evidence shows something is happening. Loosening screws will not cure clouding caused by contamination but would effect pressure and twisting effects.
Of course there is always a possibility that there could be some negative effect over time but I suppose retightening would correct any change.
Obviously the layers of the screen are applied horizontally and its probable that final assembly is also performed horizontally. Given the short time between manufacture and delivery it is also possible that the screen will relax and improve over time. Maybe loosening screws speeds up this process!

[KevinRoy]

Be interesting to see Samsung take on this, if indeed it is the cause of the issues its looking like from those that have done it that their issues are going away, but as has been said what effects may this cause in the long term. Do the people at Samsung read these threads I wonder.

[aircub]

Originally Posted by KevinRoy

Be interesting to see Samsung take on this, if indeed it is the cause of the issues its looking like from those that have done it that their issues are going away, but as has been said what effects may this cause in the long term. Do the people at Samsung read these threads I wonder.

Maybe the Korean Engineers might but I doubt the production staff in Slovakia do. Samsung's stance is probably that 99% of their customers are satisfied and wouldn't notice or care about clouding etc.
Given the losses is TV manufacturing I can't see more money being put into assembly, if there was a simple cheap fix it would have been done.

[Scruffy Dub]

Originally Posted by SNMM

Hi, for people with clouding issues, I found in a spanish forum a guy that post a tutorial how he found a way to get rid of the clouding in their unit, he say the problem are with the inside screws that are very tight to the screen, he solve the problem unscrewing a little more the screws in the area of the screen that have problems.

He did the same in more then one tv, to family and friends units with same problem, and always get the same results, zero clouding, even in the last years D8000/7000 panels.

Its unbelievable how Samsung dont see a simple thing like that fixed. But of course not everyone will try this with their expensive screens. And I am one of them, because Im afraid to do something wrong.


But the situation here is that its seems that really works.

Here: TUTORIAL: Eliminar CLOUDING en la serie ES8000 de Samsung

Sorry my poor english, im Portuguese

Your English is fine mate, no worries
I have been considering buying this TV but having gone through a series of 5 exchanges with my current TV when I got it a few years ago I have been very reluctant to embark on such an arduous journey again.
I suggested to the manufacturers rep at the time that my clouding looked like pressure on the panel but he dismissed it out of hand, nice to be finally vindicated.
The voiding of the warranty is of major concern however as one of my Samsungs went up in a puff of smoke and was replaced under the guarantee.
Surely Samsung should resolve this on site now it is a known issue?

[whitehart]

re-did the screws just then again - no major improvement in top rhs using instructions - maybe it needs to settle - i think that fix maybe subjective - its removed any clouding for me however in 3D

[whitehart]

Originally Posted by Scruffy Dub

Your English is fine mate, no worries
I have been considering buying this TV but having gone through a series of 5 exchanges with my current TV when I got it a few years ago I have been very reluctant to embark on such an arduous journey again.
I suggested to the manufacturers rep at the time that my clouding looked like pressure on the panel but he dismissed it out of hand, nice to be finally vindicated.
The voiding of the warranty is of major concern however as one of my Samsungs went up in a puff of smoke and was replaced under the guarantee.
Surely Samsung should resolve this on site now it is a known issue?

in your signature you have a LE46A656 model I have one of those I wish i never started on my journey and just stuck with that one