[Blakey1977]

So got my new 55 think it looks great but new at all this top end tv stuff was wondering the best way to check for clouding? Also notice some haloing in the back ground when one colour is showing but in different shades is this normal? If not how do I get rid?

Thanks

[KevG123]

Originally Posted by ciscosurplus

Thought I would include a picture of my line issue,

as I have 2 sets suffer this now, wondering if anyone else has had it?

If I am still within 28days can I get a refund? I am going to give third ago then give up.

Had exactly the same fault that appeared after one week

Its a whole row of dead pixels

You need to exchange the set

[vaktmestern]

Strange that just one line dies out? wasnt a problem on the c or the d models?

[KevG123]

Originally Posted by vaktmestern

Strange that just one line dies out? wasnt a problem on the c or the d models?

Its even in the same place as mine was

The fact it appears after a few days is a bit worrying

[ciscosurplus]

Originally Posted by KevG123

Its even in the same place as mine was

The fact it appears after a few days is a bit worrying

Agreed, first set arrived like that, but I think it was higher, this one happened after a week of use...

[Mrb1972]

Originally Posted by ciscosurplus

John Lewis,

My first one arrived like that out of the box higher up (constant pink line) - replaced within 2 days

This one developed the problem after 8 days! yesterday, puts me outside the 7 days

To be fair They agree to replace no quibbles, but twice the same fault, either I should go out and buy a lotto ticket or Im just unlucky!

I will give a third one a go, but odds are some other issues

JL give you 28 days not 7

[aircub]

Originally Posted by vaktmestern

Think i read once the reason for samsung suddenly stopped the back light led higher end led tvs was a patent they didnt have the rights to use. So the was forced into the lesser edge led tech to bad as i dont belive any of the tv producers will perfect edge led really.

Yes Sharp holds key patents on full array local dimming LED backlighting which they offered to licence to Samsung and Sony. Sony acquired a licence in a deal which included using Sharp panels in some of their TVs but Samsung decided against as they had developed linear light guides which they felt performed better than the annular guides used in full array and promoted their edge led sets as being free of haloing.

[tvmonkey]

Originally Posted by Blakey1977

So got my new 55 think it looks great but new at all this top end tv stuff was wondering the best way to check for clouding? Also notice some haloing in the back ground when one colour is showing but in different shades is this normal? If not how do I get rid?

Thanks

My best advice is don't look for it. If it was horrendous you would see it now and if not you'll just drive yourself mad and end up in the endless cycle of swapping TVs out for minor issues. Ask yourself this question: Am i happy with my TV? If the answer to this is yes, you're fine

[tvmonkey]

Originally Posted by aircub

Yes Sharp holds key patents on full array local dimming LED backlighting which they offered to licence to Samsung and Sony. Sony acquired a licence in a deal which included using Sharp panels in some of their TVs but Samsung decided against as they had developed linear light guides which they felt performed better than the annular guides used in full array and promoted their edge led sets as being free of haloing.

Which they aren't

[Blakey1977]

Originally Posted by tvmonkey

My best advice is don't look for it. If it was horrendous you would see it now and if not you'll just drive yourself mad and end up in the endless cycle of swapping TVs out for minor issues. Ask yourself this question: Am i happy with my TV? If the answer to this is yes, you're fine

Yes I am happy with this tv only issue I have is torch lighting when watching 3d but after some of the issues I have seen posted on here I don't think it's worth swapping my set in .

[vaktmestern]

Samsung cant perfect the edge led system its no way to controll the light into the ""dimming"" zones they say keep ""improving"" But for the average joe who dont care much ab light bleed, cloading and blooming ,they guy who buys the tvs only for the design that dont matter.

[JulianL]

Originally Posted by KevG123

Had exactly the same fault that appeared after one week

Its a whole row of dead pixels

You need to exchange the set

I agree, that's definitely a hard failure with absolutely no debate as to whether it's a softer issue that might be within manufacturing tolerances.

Line of dead pixels across the screen? Internal power supply bursting into flames? Nothing but a high pitched whine coming out of the speakers? Bits of casing falling off? As far as getting it fixed is concerned then those would all be equally valid items for a repair or replacement under warranty regardless of whether they happen on day one or in month 59 (if on a 5 year warranty). Of course for anyone looking for a full refund with a view to taking their money and buying a different TV then I appreciate that the timing for getting a full refund vs a repair could be an issue.

I suspect this row of dead pixels might be a batch problem somewhere on the outer drive circuitry for the panel since it seems to have happened to a few people and electrically is going to be a failure in a very different place to a single stuck pixel.

- Julian

[Muckypaws]

Hi..

I've got it all set up, but having a few issues..

1. PS3 Blu Ray

When it connects to blu ray discs, and tries to output 1080p 24, the TV loses connection. If I drop the PS3 down to 1080i, it works.. so something weird there.

2. 3D

Not sure what kind of 3D picture supposed to see, using the samsung disk and a couple of movies, there are 3 options, 2D > 3D which I assume it an on the fly convert, and then vertical or horizontal split, neither of which work, they give a totally screwed up image.

Any ideas?

[aircub]

Originally Posted by tvmonkey

Which they aren't

To be fair haloing in the true sense is circular blooming which you get with the circular light guides on full backlight - my Sony 923 had this to varying degrees depending on settings. Edge lighting uses linear guides which give you blooming not haloing which is enough for the marketing departments!

[newmeadows]

Any tried and tested recommendations for a Soundbar for the 55"? Thanks.

[whitehart]

anyone else on a 46 inch model or even 55 see on a white backdrop (ice age 3 for example) see horizontal lines (around 3 across the screen) or even on a blank wallpaper from a pc when doing 2d to 3d conversion?

I've seen it on 4-5 ES8000's couple in the shop and a few that i have had swapped out

[aircub]

Originally Posted by vaktmestern

Samsung cant perfect the edge led system its no way to controll the light into the ""dimming"" zones they say keep ""improving"" But for the average joe who dont care much ab light bleed, cloading and blooming ,they guy who buys the tvs only for the design that dont matter.

Edge lighting is improving but there is a limit and it's about cost. All lighting systems suffer from some bleed if you want the brightest picture. However picture quality is not only about contrast and Samsung have an edge here as their SVA panels have one of the highest native contrast performance in the industry. I can't speak for others but I found the Haloing on my Sony 923 more annoying than the light bleed on the edge of my D8000 - both the Sony and Samsung had poor screen uniformity.
There is still very slight bleed visible in the dark on my ES8000 but the Screen uniformity is excellent and blooming is minimal, I have no clouding and have not seen a better picture on an LCD set in this country. I have seen the top end Sharp Elite and Toshiba sets in the US and these looked good instore but they have not made it to the UK and I don't think any set is perfect as all the current technology has issues if you are looking for perfection.

[aircub]

Originally Posted by newmeadows

Any tried and tested recommendations for a Soundbar for the 55"? Thanks.

I use a Yamaha ysp-5100 which matches the size of the 55" - it is paired with a KEF subwoofer and the sound is very good given the limitations. The Yamaha also processes HD Master Audio.
However my main viewing is done with a projector and 7.1 Denon system with two Subs and this sounds significantly better.
Bottom line is the 5100 is one of the best sound bars but if you have space you are always better off with a full setup.

[whitehart]

Originally Posted by aircub

I use a Yamaha ysp-5100 which matches the size of the 55" - it is paired with a KEF subwoofer and the sound is very good given the limitations. The Yamaha also processes HD Master Audio.
However my main viewing is done with a projector and 7.1 Denon system with two Subs and this sounds significantly better.
Bottom line is the 5100 is one of the best sound bars but if you have space you are always better off with a full setup.

wow that kind of money for a 5100- might as well get the rx-v767 and get the sub, speakers etc and have full setup - which i have

[KevG123]

Originally Posted by JulianL

I agree, that's definitely a hard failure with absolutely no debate as to whether it's a softer issue that might be within manufacturing tolerances.

Line of dead pixels across the screen? Internal power supply bursting into flames? Nothing but a high pitched whine coming out of the speakers? Bits of casing falling off? As far as getting it fixed is concerned then those would all be equally valid items for a repair or replacement under warranty regardless of whether they happen on day one or in month 59 (if on a 5 year warranty). Of course for anyone looking for a full refund with a view to taking their money and buying a different TV then I appreciate that the timing for getting a full refund vs a repair could be an issue.

I suspect this row of dead pixels might be a batch problem somewhere on the outer drive circuitry for the panel since it seems to have happened to a few people and electrically is going to be a failure in a very different place to a single stuck pixel.

- Julian

I thought mine was a damaged panel, one off fault

The fact its in the same place and looks exactly the same - agree looks like batch problem

[Blackbat]

Just had a reply from Samsung about my problem with connecting an 55ES8000 via ethernet cable to a network switch (which a Samsung BD player connects to perfectly, and Pioneer amp connects to perfectly, a Panasonic GT30 connects to perfectly etc, you get the idea) which said "Please be advised that TV's only, may not support a network switch".

Be warned.

[aircub]

Originally Posted by whitehart

wow that kind of money for a 5100- might as well get the rx-v767 and get the sub, speakers etc and have full setup - which i have

I agree if you have the space my TV and sound bar are in my study and perform very well in that environment.

[aircub]

Originally Posted by tvmonkey

My best advice is don't look for it. If it was horrendous you would see it now and if not you'll just drive yourself mad and end up in the endless cycle of swapping TVs out for minor issues. Ask yourself this question: Am i happy with my TV? If the answer to this is yes, you're fine

Very Good advice!

[vaktmestern]

Sold my ysp 5100 wasnt happy, as the yamaha bars really hasnt evolved much from the ysp 1000 the meny design is old the it has a wide front stage but the sound is tiny on vocals a sub drowns out that a bit but u can hear it well

[aircub]

Originally Posted by vaktmestern

Sold my ysp 5100 wasnt happy, as the yamaha bars really hasnt evolved much from the ysp 1000 the meny design is old the it has a wide front stage but the sound is tiny on vocals a sub drowns out that a bit but u can hear it well

Have to say I havn't found a better alternative sound bar. What sound bar are you using now? I have had the 1000 and 40d bars before the 5100 and there have been incremental improvements. The auto setup on the 5100 does it's job well and to my ears the sound has become richer and more detailed but I agree no huge leap forward.
My recommendation would always be to use a full set up if you have the space.

[ciscosurplus]

Originally Posted by Blackbat

Just had a reply from Samsung about my problem with connecting an 55ES8000 via ethernet cable to a network switch (which a Samsung BD player connects to perfectly, and Pioneer amp connects to perfectly, a Panasonic GT30 connects to perfectly etc, you get the idea) which said "Please be advised that TV's only, may not support a network switch".

Be warned.

Sorry are you saying Samsung won't support a switch? I wonder then what will they support? Tech specs say Ethernet (LAN). To support Ethernet I can't see what else it could connect to? even routers have a series of switch ports build in and behave exactly like a switch.

If this is true what does the port support?

Can you clarify what you mean?

[ciscosurplus]

Has anyone asked Samsung when they are going to bother getting iplayer installed? Ive been using my jailbroken apple TV2 which is a little clumsy.

[rob2278]

I use a switch with my D8000 set, can't see the ES range not being compatible?

[arenaman]

Originally Posted by ciscosurplus

Has anyone asked Samsung when they are going to bother getting iplayer installed? Ive been using my jailbroken apple TV2 which is a little clumsy.

Yes it's been asked, they're working on it and we should have it shortly apparently

[Blackbat]

Originally Posted by ciscosurplus

Sorry are you saying Samsung won't support a switch? I wonder then what will they support? Tech specs say Ethernet (LAN). To support Ethernet I can't see what else it could connect to? even routers have a series of switch ports build in and behave exactly like a switch.

If this is true what does the port support?

Can you clarify what you mean?

The reply I got from them said "Please be advised that TV's only, may not support a network switch". From this I infer that not all Samsung TVs will work when connected to a switch but that other Samsung devices will (a Samsung BD player is connected to the switch and works fine). The same switch has supported various AV components, including a Panasonic TV, with no problem.

It was suggested that I connect a router to the switch (which I already had connected) and use a port on that or wireless. Wireless reception is patchy due to the router being through a couple of walls. A temporary 20m patch lead from the router to the TV, bypassing the switch, works fine. It's just the TV through the switch which is a problem. The switch is a netgear GS105 and I can't change port settings on it.

Now got another problem too . On BBC Freesat channels the "red button" graphic keeps coming on and going off and each time it appears and disappears (several times a minute) the brightness/contrast changes very noticeably. This is only a problem on Freesat, not on Freeview. Anybody else seen this?