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Old 12-04-2012, 7:31 PM   #61
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not as lucky as my toaster that has a samsung logo lit up on it !!
Does it have crust bleed ?
 
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Hi I take delivery of my 55 next week was just wondering what range of the ir blaster is how far away can I have it from my sky box?
 
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Does it have crust bleed ?
quality funnily enough yeah !!
 
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Oh dear.
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Oh dear.
Ow, mines not that bad. Has it been like that all along, or suddenly happened?
 
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Oh dear.
Oh dear indeed. Is that after you've had a good play with the settings?
 
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Ow, mines not that bad. Has it been like that all along, or suddenly happened?
First time I've had a blu ray on in my normal viewing conditions.

That's going back then.

 
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Oh dear indeed. Is that after you've had a good play with the settings?
Yes, set on movie and backlight only on 8.
 
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Yes, set on movie and backlight only on 8.
Oh man, that's not good at all. Sorry to see that mate. Back it goes I guess.
 
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Oh man, that's not good at all. Sorry to see that mate. Back it goes I guess.
Just fired an email off to JL.
 
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oh mate thats awful has to go back - quality film you watching though
 
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oh mate thats awful has to go back - quality film you watching though
I'm not watching it anymore.

 
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Well Well, I feel sorry for you but in a way not surprised after reading a few reviews made by pro and by "normal" users,
with such a low contrast (below 2000:1) , reported by a few reviewers, this set cant be good and if you add clouding and bleeding on top ;(
With MDU it supposedly has 576 dimming zones (about 4x more than the D8000) which technically should improve contrast but the contrast is very low ... Something went wrong somewhere
 
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I'm starting to get scared of this bleeding problem. Sounds like half of the TVs are bad..

I'm getting my 46ES7005 sometime soonish and the scary part is that I got it for 500€ cheaper than it was supposed to be. If I have to call Samsung to come replace my screen it will most likely take more than 12 days. If it's still bad after replacement, it would be too late to return the TV.. So practically I got just 1 shot to get a good one
 
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First time I've had a blu ray on in my normal viewing conditions.

That's going back then.

I wish I had taken a picture of mine. It was a LOT worse than that. Really terrible display. I wouldn't have been happy with that but likely would have kept it. This I have here is horrendous.

I expect I will have exactly the same when the new one arrives tomorrow night
 
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I wish I had taken a picture of mine. It was a LOT worse than that. Really terrible display. I wouldn't have been happy with that but likely would have kept it. This I have here is horrendous.

I expect I will have exactly the same when the new one arrives tomorrow night
the other answer maybe to get a samsung engineer out to fit a screen?

otherwise it could be just as bad, now the clouding aint great on mine but some of thses i am seeing are truely shocking making me think i got a keeper
 
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on another note I may never buy another samsung TV again the quality is awful, the galaxy samsung sii's are great why cant the TV's be great

Samsung if your reading this please can you sort out these issues thanks
 
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Well Well, I feel sorry for you but in a way not surprised after reading a few reviews made by pro and by "normal" users,
with such a low contrast (below 2000:1) , reported by a few reviewers, this set cant be good and if you add clouding and bleeding on top ;(
With MDU it supposedly has 576 dimming zones (about 4x more than the D8000) which technically should improve contrast but the contrast is very low ... Something went wrong somewhere
Sorry but I have to disagree - whilst there may be some bad sets, these forums are full of them - if there is one thing that is hugely better than the D8000 and my Sony 923, it is the contrast. The blacks on my es8000 are solid and inky dark. Samsung S-Panels are known to produce some of the best LCD blacks in the market. I have not seen low contrast quoted by anyone other than Lesnumeriques and it's sister publication (digitalversus) who are known for being controversial so would be interested to read the others if you would be kind enough to post some links - Thanks.

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Guys - in all honesty (and this is coming from someone who has had 5 D8000's and now a ES8000...) you will never get a perfect one. They all have some level of clouding and flashlighting. My ES8000 seems A LOT better than any of the D8000's I had, but it's still got minimal clouding and i've also just noticed tonight (i SWEAR it wasn't there yesterday), a bit of flashlighting in the bottom right. It gets worse if you push upwards on the bottom of the bezel and lessens when pulling down on it, so guess it's a fitting issue with the bezel and the panel rather than any actual defect. Annoying, but I really don't think I want to go through the whole replacements game again with John Lewis... they were beginning to tire of me after the 5 D8000's!!
 
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Sorry but I have to disagree - whilst there may be some bad sets, these forums are full of them - if there is one thing that is hugely better than the D8000 and my Sony 923, it is the contrast. The blacks on my es8000 are solid and inky dark. Samsung S-Panels are known to produce some of the best LCD blacks in the market. I have not seen low contrast quoted by anyone other than Lesnumeriques and it's sister publication who are known for being controversial so would be interested to read the others if you would be kind enough to post some links - Thanks.
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Oh dear.
What can I say? I can't
 
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the other answer maybe to get a samsung engineer out to fit a screen?

otherwise it could be just as bad, now the clouding aint great on mine but some of thses i am seeing are truely shocking making me think i got a keeper
Samsung have published a disclaimer on their site now saying things like bleed etc are within acceptable tolerances.

Don't think many screen swaps will be done any more.
 
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They can disclaim all they wish. Fortunately for us in the UK we have protection in law via a number of routes
 
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They can disclaim all they wish. Fortunately for us in the UK we have protection in law via a number of routes
If they state that things like bleed etc are acceptable in this sort of equipment, which they have done, then someone buys a TV that has the said issue noted in their disclaimer, "we" don't really have a leg to stand on. SOG act and that, yes, I see what your saying, but they have made us aware that it is an "issue" of the technology that we have bought.
 
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Just fired an email off to JL.
Sorry your TV is not acceptable Richard but pleased you bought it through John Lewis as you will not get any hassle exchanging it. This is a lesson for anyone reading this thread thinking about buying a new TV, buy it from a reputable dealer who will change it with no argument or additional charges or carriage.
I would recommend Currys / Richer Sounds / John Lewis
 
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Samsung have published a disclaimer on their site now saying things like bleed etc are within acceptable tolerances.

Don't think many screen swaps will be done any more.

Can you please post a link to that disclaimer?

Thanks.
 
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Can you please post a link to that disclaimer?

Thanks.
[FAQs] LED : How can I reduce backlight leakage on my LED TV?
Backlight leakage or bleeding is a common characteristic of LCD displays. It is NOT a fault; it describes the condition where brightness intensity varies across the screen. Bright areas may be visible on the image mostly in the borders and in the corners of a screen, and this is most noticeable when dark images are displayed. To reduce this effect, you can try to adjust the settings in the Picture Menu.

Press the Menu button on your remote control, and navigate to the picture menu, from this menu you can access the following:

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Movie mode is recommended.

Backlight
Backlight set to 4 is recommended.

Game Mode
Set it to OFF.

Each person perceives the picture properties e.g. brightness, colour and contrast differently. You can also try to adjust Black Tone, Dynamic Contrast and Colour Tone according to your own preferences.



If you watch content from an external device connected via an HDMI cable, you can also try to adjust the HDMI Black Level.

copied from Samsung website.

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If they state that things like bleed etc are acceptable in this sort of equipment, which they have done, then someone buys a TV that has the said issue noted in their disclaimer, "we" don't really have a leg to stand on. SOG act and that, yes, I see what your saying, but they have made us aware that it is an "issue" of the technology that we have bought.
To legally prevent refunds Samsung can't use something hidden on a website it would have to be prominently displayed at point of sale and along with pricing details in store. As CCFL sets tend not to suffer bleed etc the consumer would have to be told differing characteristics at the point of sale. They may however use it as a reason not to do rectification warranty work but as your contract is with the retailer you would have to go down the refund route.
 
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If they state that things like bleed etc are acceptable in this sort of equipment, which they have done, then someone buys a TV that has the said issue noted in their disclaimer, "we" don't really have a leg to stand on. SOG act and that, yes, I see what your saying, but they have made us aware that it is an "issue" of the technology that we have bought.
They can disclaim all they wish, I can pursue them in the courts as I wish
 
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To legally prevent refunds Samsung can't use something hidden on a website it would have to be prominently displayed at point of sale and along with pricing details in store. As CCFL sets tend not to suffer bleed etc the consumer would have to be told differing characteristics at the point of sale. They may however use it as a reason not to do rectification warranty work but as your contract is with the retailer you would have to go down the refund route.
Your not buying a CCFL set though, your buying an edge lit LED TV that they have stated as seen in my above post, that backlight issues are not classed as a fault.
 
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