[CrankyMofo]

Hi everyone.
I've been reading through this thread, and now I'm confused. Currently I have a 32C530 and I'm thinking of getting the 40D6500. Tho my question is will it be an improvement PQ wise? :> Also I'll be gaming on it a lot. Your thoughts guys?
Cheers

[danhammer]

Originally Posted by youngbuck uk

Try a custom setting of blur = 10 judder = 7,
seems to work for me

when i apply your settings the picture seems to quicken up then slow down - especially when watching for example sky movies

just waiting for the malaga v barca game to start so i can test the settings with football

[Ambient Fish]

I have tried to access 4 OD through the browser and I get to choose a prog to watch and it prompts me to download flash player which the TV does not allow, is there a workaround to allow me to access 4 OD on the UE406530 or is just not possible? Thanks in advance for any replies.

[sandmatt]

Originally Posted by CrankyMofo

Hi everyone.
I've been reading through this thread, and now I'm confused. Currently I have a 32C530 and I'm thinking of getting the 40D6500. Tho my question is will it be an improvement PQ wise? :> Also I'll be gaming on it a lot. Your thoughts guys?
Cheers

Picture quality in 2d is amazing on my set and I think it's pretty good for gaming - i haven't noticed any lag. If you can get it on offer from somewhere it's a great set - not sure it's a £800 set but still a great one.

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by sandmatt

Picture quality in 2d is amazing on my set and I think it's pretty good for gaming - i haven't noticed any lag. If you can get it on offer from somewhere it's a great set - not sure it's a £800 set but still a great one.

RGB direct sell the UE40D6530 for £699

[SteveU30]

Originally Posted by GokuSS4

RGB direct sell the UE40D6530 for £699

John Lewis should Pricematch this too

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by SteveU30

John Lewis should Pricematch this too

For some reason I noticed that the D6530's have gone up in price, I bought mine from PRC for £649 and they bumped the price up to £735!! Also RGB were selling it for £669 now its gone up to £699.

Im a bit baffled by this, dont prices usually come down when newer models are out? Surely they would be trying to get rid of these because of the 3D issue :-/

But I guess it makes me feel good for the first time ever an electrical item I purchased has actually gone up in value lol.

[SteveU30]

If demand is still high and there aren't many left then I imagine they can charge whatever people are willing to pay. Don't forget that the vast majority of people will be blissfully unaware of the 3D issue and buy the TV based on the in store demo.

[Ambient Fish]

Originally Posted by SteveU30

John Lewis should Pricematch this too

I got mine from JL for £649 on 3 rd Jan with 2 pairs of specs.

[Ambient Fish]

Originally Posted by SteveU30

If demand is still high and there aren't many left then I imagine they can charge whatever people are willing to pay. Don't forget that the vast majority of people will be blissfully unaware of the 3D issue and buy the TV based on the in store demo.

Hi Steve, what is the 3D issue, I watched Avatar last night and it was an amazing experience on the UE40D6530, so good that I am thinking of replacing my Panny with a 55D8000 in my main rig.

[SteveU30]

Originally Posted by Ambient Fish

Hi Steve, what is the 3D issue, I watched Avatar last night and it was an amazing experience on the UE40D6530, so good that I am thinking of replacing my Panny with a 55D8000 in my main rig.

Rather than me try to explain it I'll link to the 2 best sources on the issue but let me just say, I've owned both a D6750 (D6530 with a couple of minor differences) and a D7000 now and there definitely IS a difference!

D6x00 TVs FULL HD 3D Defect - SamyGO

UE##D6### 3D TV scam by Samsung or how to sell Half-Quarter HD 3D as "Full HD 3D"

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by Ambient Fish

Hi Steve, what is the 3D issue, I watched Avatar last night and it was an amazing experience on the UE40D6530, so good that I am thinking of replacing my Panny with a 55D8000 in my main rig.

What source are you running 3D from? A blu-ray player or PS3?

I found the PS3 to display 3D a lot better than the Xbox 360 however the known issue is that the D6530 will not do 3D @ 1080p.

However when I watched 2 trailers in HD 3D on my PS3 they were amazing.

Only gears of war 3 on the Xbox 360 looks terrible in 3D however Halo Anniversary, PS3 games and trailers on the PS3 looked far better.

[Ambient Fish]

Appreciate the quick relies and the excellent info, must admit that if Avatar can be even better than I experienced on the D6530 then I gotta spend the cash and get the best out of the disc

[sandmatt]

Originally Posted by SteveU30

Rather than me try to explain it I'll link to the 2 best sources on the issue but let me just say, I've owned both a D6750 (D6530 with a couple of minor differences) and a D7000 now and there definitely IS a difference!

D6x00 TVs FULL HD 3D Defect - SamyGO

UE##D6### 3D TV scam by Samsung or how to sell Half-Quarter HD 3D as "Full HD 3D"

There is a difference and a huge price difference! At £650 this is a great set.

I've looked in to the 3d issue and even emailed samsung about it they say that the set can deliver 576i to 720p to each eye. I checked it in store comparing to other TVs in this price range (LGs 42LW650T) and thought this was actually the better set both 2d and 3d wise. I keep tinkering with it and proper 3d looks good and so does other 3d, a bad source though is spottable.

I paid £650 for it with 4 glasses knowing of the problems having insisted on testing the 3d myself. It was pretty good still i thought, anyway just to be cheeky I then fired off an email to currys. Because I bought it at the sale price which then went to 799 and now 749 they said offered me a further 5% discount! Should have pushed for a sound bar!

Overall I guess it what your priorities are and how much you have after all one is £650 and the other is best part of £1000 especially with glasses.

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by sandmatt

There is a difference and a huge price difference! At £650 this is a great set.

I've looked in to the 3d issue and even emailed samsung about it they say that the set can deliver 576i to 720p to each eye. I checked it in store comparing to other TVs in this price range (LGs 42LW650T) and thought this was actually the better set both 2d and 3d wise. I keep tinkering with it and proper 3d looks good and so does other 3d, a bad source though is spottable.

I paid £650 for it with 4 glasses knowing of the problems having insisted on testing the 3d myself. It was pretty good still i thought, anyway just to be cheeky I then fired off an email to currys. Because I bought it at the same price which then went to 799 and now 749 they said offered me a further 5% discount!

Exactly the price difference from paying £649 to £979 is pretty steep, sure 5yrs ago I laid down over £1000 cash for a 720p only set but from what I have come from to this tele its a huge jump and even though its starting to bother a little bit on the inside the price difference being over £300 more is what helps make me feel better lol.

I just want this tv to last me 5years as well and by that time we will all be talking about 4k tv's on who has what and which one is best for probably the same money today (hoping).

Also I prefer the look of the D6530 I like shiny things but that D7000 shines soo much it hits you in the eye lol.

Anyways for the money and for the features the D6530 packs its worth giving it a kiss and a cuddle for doing great things and letting it off for not doing full HD 3D because its still a BEAST :P

[sandmatt]

It may not be 'full 3D' but honestly put this next to an LG or a Sony HX723 and this still wins! Honestly it is good value for money. I've been playing GT5, Killzone 3 and Assassins Creed: Revelations in 3D all day and they look immense! Particularly GT5 and AC:R, baring in mind that the PS3 will only do games in full 3d at 720p.

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by sandmatt

It may not be 'full 3D' but honestly put this next to an LG or a Sony HX723 and this still wins! Honestly it is good value for money. I've been playing GT5, Killzone 3 and Assassins Creed: Revelations in 3D all day and they look immense! Particularly GT5 and AC:R, baring in mind that the PS3 will only do games in full 3d at 720p.

So thats why it looks better on the PS3! The Xbox has been doing it at something like 540

Im more than happy with 720p 3D!

[sandmatt]

Most 1080p graphics on the ps3 and xbox are just upscaled form 720p anyway.

I haven't tried my xbox yet, but i need to get the HDMI fixed on it. I doubt the difference between PS3 and xbox is down to that - you could check by forcing the xbox to work in 720p.

PS3 games with 3D are programmed to do it in 720 although can be forced to do it at 1080, this isn't recommended maybe tat's whats up with the xbox the upscaling and so on mucking up resolutions.

[GokuSS4]

Originally Posted by sandmatt

Most 1080p graphics on the ps3 and xbox are just upscaled form 720p anyway.

I haven't tried my xbox yet, but i need to get the HDMI fixed on it. I doubt the difference between PS3 and xbox is down to that - you could check by forcing the xbox to work in 720p.

PS3 games with 3D are programmed to do it in 720 although can be forced to do it at 1080, this isn't recommended maybe tat's whats up with the xbox the upscaling and so on mucking up resolutions.

Well I am most certainly sure its because the Xbox 360 only has HDMI 1.2 which cannot carry a 3D signal properly or carry the higher number of colours etc due to bandwith that the 1.2 is limited to.

The PS3 slim new models are apparently fitted with HDMI 1.3 which CAN do 3D and the higher colours etc and I am guessing that is why the PS3 looks soo much better in 3D and well 2D than the Xbox 360.

I am an Xbox 360 gamer though but owning both is always good as I use the PS3 as a blu-ray player but first I need some blu-rays lol I just bought the PS3 again the other day after getting my new tele :-) I have also fitted the PS3 with a HDMI 1.4 gold plated cable :-D so its all good.

[SteveU30]

Originally Posted by GokuSS4

Well I am most certainly sure its because the Xbox 360 only has HDMI 1.2 which cannot carry a 3D signal properly or carry the higher number of colours etc due to bandwith that the 1.2 is limited to.

The PS3 slim new models are apparently fitted with HDMI 1.3 which CAN do 3D and the higher colours etc and I am guessing that is why the PS3 looks soo much better in 3D and well 2D than the Xbox 360.

I am an Xbox 360 gamer though but owning both is always good as I use the PS3 as a blu-ray player but first I need some blu-rays lol I just bought the PS3 again the other day after getting my new tele :-) I have also fitted the PS3 with a HDMI 1.4 gold plated cable :-D so its all good.

Sorry but your assumption in incorrect, 3D games only run at 720p on both machines which uses less bandwidth than 1080p 2D therefore the 1.2 HDMI standard is more than adequate.

See here for a full explanation:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...3d-on-xbox-360

Also, I played Batman Arkham City on my Xbox in 3D on both my old D6750 and my current D7000 and the res difference is very noticeable, there are a lot of subtitles in the game which are very jaggy on the 6 series but not on the 7 series using the same settings.

[sandmatt]

I didn't really notice that much of resolution drop on PS3 for Batman.

Doesn't all 3D require HDMI 1.4?

I'm well aware that the image in the D7000 is going to be better, looking at the specs without the 3D issue says that. But the two are at different price points. One is a premium screen and the other a more affordable. I would like the D7000 but my budget didn't stretch that far.

I wasn't even aware until recently that xbox did 3D, does it do framepacking like PS3 games?

[EvilEdna]

Well after trying out three panny st30's and one gt30, 46 and 50 inch models, i am coming back to the sammy D6530 46 inch model, i did try a sammy in December but sent it back due to really bad light bleed in all four corners, other wise i would of kept it, i know these sets are not full 3D but i honestly can not see the difference between this and a panny gt30 or st30, plus i will be mostly watching SD and HD content through sky, and only watching 3D now and then, plus a little gaming in 3D, plus this set looks really good when not switched on, the 50 inch panny looked liked a giant black monolith, blocking all the light from the window.

[youngbuck uk]

Im starting to change my mind about this tv, after a few days of viewing and playing ps3 etc...

Im just not happy with the motion, my 3 yr old 100hz sammy lcd handled motion much better, Im having serious thought about taking it back to JL and getting the D7000, PQ is outstanding but when the camera moves im noticing slight judder and blur especially when watching football in HD,

I put on a Blu Ray using my samsung BD-D5500, and every now and then it seems as if the picture jumps or misses a frame, again motion was handled better by my old lcd,

specs and number jargon aside, does the D7000 handle motion better in the real world?

[SteveU30]

Originally Posted by youngbuck uk

Im starting to change my mind about this tv, after a few days of viewing and playing ps3 etc...

Im just not happy with the motion, my 3 yr old 100hz sammy lcd handled motion much better, Im having serious thought about taking it back to JL and getting the D7000, PQ is outstanding but when the camera moves im noticing slight judder and blur especially when watching football in HD,

I put on a Blu Ray using my samsung BD-D5500, and every now and then it seems as if the picture jumps or misses a frame, again motion was handled better by my old lcd,

specs and number jargon aside, does the D7000 handle motion better in the real world?

I'd say so yes, I used to notice motion on my D6750 but since getting the D7000 I have to say I've not noticed any. That's not to say it can't be found, you only have to take a peek in the D7000 thread but in my experience so far I'd say the D7000 is a much better TV altogether. You can tell it has a better processor inside the second you switch it on.

[Ambient Fish]

To be honest the 3D capability of the D6530 is the icing on a great cake IMHO, as I said I was completely unaware of any 3D issue when I watched Avatar and was completely blown away by the image quality.

Has anyone got any info on my earlier question about 4 OD on the DD6530? I would really appreciate any info as SWMBO is busting my chops about this.

[SteveU30]

Originally Posted by Ambient Fish

To be honest the 3D capability of the D6530 is the icing on a great cake IMHO, as I said I was completely unaware of any 3D issue when I watched Avatar and was completely blown away by the image quality.

Has anyone got any info on my earlier question about 4 OD on the DD6530? I would really appreciate any info as SWMBO is busting my chops about this.

Quite a few Blu-Ray players support 4oD, might be worth you upgrading this to get functionality?

[mda1974]

Hello

Just received one of these tvs at the weekend as a replacement for a faulty toshiba set.
I just have one (for now) question.
Is it possible to limit what inputs are viewable when switching between them. I do not have an arial connected to the tv so don't need to see the tv option (I'm using sky via hdmi) and only really need to be able to see hdmi 1 to 3.

Don't know if this is possible.

Thanks

Marcus

[danhammer]

Originally Posted by youngbuck uk

Im starting to change my mind about this tv, after a few days of viewing and playing ps3 etc...

Im just not happy with the motion, my 3 yr old 100hz sammy lcd handled motion much better, Im having serious thought about taking it back to JL and getting the D7000, PQ is outstanding but when the camera moves im noticing slight judder and blur especially when watching football in HD,

I put on a Blu Ray using my samsung BD-D5500, and every now and then it seems as if the picture jumps or misses a frame, again motion was handled better by my old lcd,

specs and number jargon aside, does the D7000 handle motion better in the real world?

to be fair mate the settings you gave me to use caused judder and i quickly changed them

If i was you try these

Picture Mode: standard
backlight: 14
contrast: 94
brightness: 42
sharpness: 48
colour: 56
TINT GR: 50 /50

advanced settings
black tone: off
dynamic contrast: off
shadow detail: 2
gamma: 3
colour space: native
white balance: factory settings
flesh tone: 0
edge enhancement: on
motion lighting: off
led motion plus: off

picture options
digital noise filter: high
mpeg noise filter: high
hdmi black level: low
motion plus: clear (but change to custom first off and adjust blur & judder reduction to 10 each , then switch back to clear setting)


try these as i think they work, all iv'e done since i bought the tv is mess around with the settings and iv'e been getting the hump to be fair but think these are the best ones so far

iv'e been torn with regards to returning the tv and changing for something else, but what i did was go into different TV model threads i.e sony, samsung, panasonic etc and to be fair people have their gripes aswell - so i think it's all about perhaps not being too fussy and i'm terrible for this but also not thinking the grass is always greener

[GokuSS4]

One thing I haven't been able to find is what resolution does the D6530 display 3D in, is it 540p to each eye?

As stated before I noticed a difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 when displaying 3D images, is anyone able to provide information on what resolution 3D is being displayed based on the 2 games consoles?

Also when everyone says it doesnt do FULL HD 3D does that mean that the D6530 can do 720p HD 3D to each eye? If so then that gives some relief that it is still displaying 3D in HD. However what makes me think it might not is that gears of war 3 in 3D is far lower than 720p.

Any information would be great :-)

[Teflon]

On a different tack - I'm sure I read somewhere that it is possible to load Plex Media Centre onto these Samsungs. Does anyone here know how?

Cheers,

Cliff