[ZXSpeccy]

@Dave

I've read in the news today that the ASA have upheld a complaint from Samsung regarding the new LG range... and, from this point on, LG are no longer allowed to advertise any of their Cinema 3d TVs as "FULL HD 3D".

How do you think this will affect the sets, as it means now they must be advertised as half resolution 3D.

Surly with this new outcome LG must come in with a lower and more aggressive pricing strategy to ensure that they are successful. Otherwise, Cinema 3D may go the way of all the other HD Ready TVs.... D.O.A or Found in the bargain bin!

"Average Joe" won't pay high prices for a "NON-Full HD" experience... And many of the forum members are already considering a move, I honestly think LG need to get prices out NOW make them as low and aggressive as possible, and get retailers taking preorders ASAP! Otherwise, Samsung may have you over a barrel... And could possible win this war!

If a "FULL HD 3D" sammy and "Half 3D" LG are sat next to each other... Which do you think will sell if the prices are TOO close... Do you think a sales man will sell a half resolution 3D tv... We all know retailers talk nonsense with their £50 hdmi cables and 900ghz CPUs... How do you think it'll come across to customers, that these tvs are "NOT FULL 3D" like Samsung.... They won't buy em... UNLESS... They are drastically cheaper!

Same reason they buy £50 hdmi cables and fall for the 1.4a hdmi cable rouse! Any high speed cable is fully compatible as per HDMI.ORGs official spec. Infact, they are currently in the process of stopping retailers from selling (1.3/1.4/1.4a) lablled cables etc as its misleading to customers! All "HIGH SPEED" cables are identical as its a "STANDARD" a president set by the hdmi group themselves... They test it for high speed or normal and that's it... Everything else is marketing! Which they are legally trying to stop as we speak!

We know about all this, as we're savvy, but "Joe Public" doesn't...they rely on advertising and labelling and foolishly believe it 90% of the time...
So when they see "NOT FULL HD 3D" they will not want it... They need to be seen to be keeping up with the Joneses...

Get the prices out soon, get them as low as humanly possible and get orders in now before it's too late...


Source:
Advertising Standards Agency.
http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudic...DJ_157918.aspx

Reg hardware:
"LG Mislead Consumers"
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/02/0...r_3d_tv_specs/

[vontexx]

First official price ?

3299,99$

LG 55LM9600 55" Class Full HD 1080p LED LCD Cinema 3D Smart TV in Flat Panel LED | JR.com

[Mrb1972]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

@Dave

I've read in the news today that the ASA have upheld a complaint from Samsung regarding the new LG range... and, from this point on, LG are no longer allowed to advertise any of their Cinema 3d TVs as "FULL HD 3D".

How do you think this will affect the sets, as it means now they must be advertised as half resolution 3D.

Surly with this new outcome LG must come in with a lower and more aggressive pricing strategy to ensure that they are successful. Otherwise, Cinema 3D may go the way of all the other HD Ready TVs.... D.O.A or Found in the bargain bin!

"Average Joe" won't pay high prices for a "NON-Full HD" experience... And many of the forum members are already considering a move, I honestly think LG need to get prices out NOW make them as low and aggressive as possible, and get retailers taking preorders ASAP! Otherwise, Samsung may have you over a barrel... And could possible win this war!

If a "FULL HD 3D" sammy and "Half 3D" LG are sat next to each other... Which do you think will sell if the prices are TOO close... Do you think a sales man will sell a half resolution 3D tv... We all know retailers talk nonsense with their £50 hdmi cables and 900ghz CPUs... How do you think it'll come across to customers, that these tvs are "NOT FULL 3D" like Samsung.... They won't buy em... UNLESS... They are drastically cheaper!

Same reason they buy £50 hdmi cables and fall for the 1.4a hdmi cable rouse! Any high speed cable is fully compatible as per HDMI.ORGs official spec. Infact, they are currently in the process of stopping retailers from selling (1.3/1.4/1.4a) lablled cables etc as its misleading to customers! All "HIGH SPEED" cables are identical as its a "STANDARD" a president set by the hdmi group themselves... They test it for high speed or normal and that's it... Everything else is marketing! Which they are legally trying to stop as we speak!

We know about all this, as we're savvy, but "Joe Public" doesn't...they rely on advertising and labelling and foolishly believe it 90% of the time...
So when they see "NOT FULL HD 3D" they will not want it... They need to be seen to be keeping up with the Joneses...

Get the prices out soon, get them as low as humanly possible and get orders in now before it's too late...


Source:
Advertising Standards Agency.
ASA Adjudication on LG Electronics UK Ltd - Advertising Standards Authority

Reg hardware:
"LG Mislead Consumers"
LG 3D TV ads misled buyers, judges watchdog ? reghardware

I dont think this will cause LG any issues, most people know Cinema 3D isnt "really" full 1080p, and to be honest from owning both active and cinema 3d the difference in pic quality is minimal, and Passive has so many other advantages - I think most people try both side by side would prefer the passive for comfort and ease of use etc

[rogdodge]

Originally Posted by Mrb1972
I dont think this will cause LG any issues, most people know Cinema 3D isnt "really" full 1080p, and to be honest from owning both active and cinema 3d the difference in pic quality is minimal, and Passive has so many other advantages - I think most people try both side by side would prefer the passive for comfort and ease of use etc

Agreed!

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by vontexx

First official price ?

3299,99$

LG 55LM9600 55" Class Full HD 1080p LED LCD Cinema 3D Smart TV in Flat Panel LED | JR.com

I expected better than that? Even when translated in £s that's higher than I expected!

I hope Dave offers some of us a goodwill discount voucher after our troubles otherwise I'm out I'll have to buy something else, instead of waiting until April if these prices are correct... I'll wait for the official uk prices from Dave and pray in the mean time that they try their hardest to lower them...

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

@Dave

I've read in the news today that the ASA have upheld a complaint from Samsung regarding the new LG range... and, from this point on, LG are no longer allowed to advertise any of their Cinema 3d TVs as "FULL HD 3D".

How do you think this will affect the sets, as it means now they must be advertised as half resolution 3D.

Surly with this new outcome LG must come in with a lower and more aggressive pricing strategy to ensure that they are successful. Otherwise, Cinema 3D may go the way of all the other HD Ready TVs.... D.O.A or Found in the bargain bin!

"Average Joe" won't pay high prices for a "NON-Full HD" experience... And many of the forum members are already considering a move, I honestly think LG need to get prices out NOW make them as low and aggressive as possible, and get retailers taking preorders ASAP! Otherwise, Samsung may have you over a barrel... And could possible win this war!

If a "FULL HD 3D" sammy and "Half 3D" LG are sat next to each other... Which do you think will sell if the prices are TOO close... Do you think a sales man will sell a half resolution 3D tv... We all know retailers talk nonsense with their £50 hdmi cables and 900ghz CPUs... How do you think it'll come across to customers, that these tvs are "NOT FULL 3D" like Samsung.... They won't buy em... UNLESS... They are drastically cheaper!

Same reason they buy £50 hdmi cables and fall for the 1.4a hdmi cable rouse! Any high speed cable is fully compatible as per HDMI.ORGs official spec. Infact, they are currently in the process of stopping retailers from selling (1.3/1.4/1.4a) lablled cables etc as its misleading to customers! All "HIGH SPEED" cables are identical as its a "STANDARD" a president set by the hdmi group themselves... They test it for high speed or normal and that's it... Everything else is marketing! Which they are legally trying to stop as we speak!

We know about all this, as we're savvy, but "Joe Public" doesn't...they rely on advertising and labelling and foolishly believe it 90% of the time...
So when they see "NOT FULL HD 3D" they will not want it... They need to be seen to be keeping up with the Joneses...

Get the prices out soon, get them as low as humanly possible and get orders in now before it's too late...


Source:
Advertising Standards Agency.
ASA Adjudication on LG Electronics UK Ltd - Advertising Standards Authority

Reg hardware:
"LG Mislead Consumers"
LG 3D TV ads misled buyers, judges watchdog ? reghardware

Originally Posted by Mrb1972

I dont think this will cause LG any issues, most people know Cinema 3D isnt "really" full 1080p, and to be honest from owning both active and cinema 3d the difference in pic quality is minimal, and Passive has so many other advantages - I think most people try both side by side would prefer the passive for comfort and ease of use etc

Originally Posted by rogdodge

Agreed!

This is a very interesting point and our 'action' mandated by the ASA is simply to make clear:
LG Cinema 3D delivers 1080p by using passive 3D technology

This will hopefully avoid confusion between the two technologies of 3D.

I assume that Samsung will also 'explain' and make clear what THEY mean by Full HD by using ACTIVE 3D technology (i.e.. if you are delivering full HD to one eye at a time is that the same as being able to deliver Full HD to BOTH eyes?)

It's always unfortunate when 2 manufacturers have different types of technology and both approach an existing related piece of technology from a different angle, but LG in no way wanted to 'confuse' people about Passive 3D, in fact, quite the opposite, we were always very keen to point out all the other benefits that Cinema 3D passive 3D delivers to the viewers!

[elhefepunk]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

I expected better than that? Even when translated in £s that's higher than I expected!

I hope Dave offers some of us a goodwill discount voucher after our troubles otherwise I'm out I'll have to buy something else, instead of waiting until April if these prices are correct... I'll wait for the official uk prices from Dave and pray in the mean time that they try their hardest to lower them...

totally agree, at this rate my money is going to samsung.. tempted to just buy a d8000 now and just forget the whole thing, i really cannot be bothered to suffer a faulty tv for months just to find out lg have bumped their prices up. all we are asking for is the estimated rrp which i don't think is an unreasonable request. all this speculation on pricing can only cause damage to lg's sales and reputation!

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by elhefepunk

totally agree, at this rate my money is going to samsung.. tempted to just buy a d8000 now and just forget the whole thing, i really cannot be bothered to suffer a faulty tv for months just to find out lg have bumped their prices up. all we are asking for is the estimated rrp which i don't think is an unreasonable request. all this speculation on pricing can only cause damage to lg's sales and reputation!

I'm sorry for the lack of info on pricing but we are still confirming stock and availability with our retailers, we will of course be in a position to give estimated prices nearer to the launch of the new ranges.

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by elhefepunk

totally agree, at this rate my money is going to samsung.. tempted to just buy a d8000 now and just forget the whole thing, i really cannot be bothered to suffer a faulty tv for months just to find out lg have bumped their prices up. all we are asking for is the estimated rrp which i don't think is an unreasonable request. all this speculation on pricing can only cause damage to lg's sales and reputation!

+1
I'm already being drawn in by Costco and their massiv discount daily deals... Currently the samsungs in my local Costco have great offers on them... My argument with my self is... Will I use 3D enough to justy LGs higher prices? I'll use it now and again at best, and I'll probable upgrade my tv in a few years again anyway when 3D has matured into a standard... (which is currently being worked on with the big manufactures now)

So, shall i buy that stunning sammy today, cheaper than i can get an LG (according to those prices)... Or shall I wait and see if LG come good... By then though, I might miss the sammy deal?

Samsung support is very very good, I've been conversing with them over the model I wish to buy over the last few weeks. They have very little issues such as banding and halo etc, gaming lag is non existent and blacks are incredibly dark on their screens...

But that aside... I'd like to stick with LG as I have an enormous amount of LG producs and for no other reason that stubborn loyalty. I like the LG remote lol I'm used to it, it feels comfortable, I can use it without looking etc.. I like and know the LG menus and settings and how best to tweak them... Etc etc etc it's a comfort thing.

Anyway, these are unofficial prices, but I can't say it's looking good if that's the starting price, they must go lower or my money HAS to go else where? Not through choice, but through the sheer inability to buy such an expensive set from a supposedly less pricy company.

Hopefully Dave with suprise me with a gift card for a few % off the 960v for all they trouble LG caused me over nov/dec/jan ... And for having made me wait for 3 months without a TV... eh Dave

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

Hopefully Dave with suprise me with a gift card for a few % off the 960v for all they trouble LG caused me over nov/dec/jan ... And for having made me wait for 3 months without a TV... eh Dave

I wish I could get hold of those 'gift cards'!!

[rogdodge]

Originally Posted by LG UK

This is a very interesting point and our 'action' mandated by the ASA is simply to make clear:
LG Cinema 3D delivers 1080p by using passive 3D technology

This will hopefully avoid confusion between the two technologies of 3D.

I assume that Samsung will also 'explain' and make clear what THEY mean by Full HD by using ACTIVE 3D technology (i.e.. if you are delivering full HD to one eye at a time is that the same as being able to deliver Full HD to BOTH eyes?)

It's always unfortunate when 2 manufacturers have different types of technology and both approach an existing related piece of technology from a different angle, but LG in no way wanted to 'confuse' people about Passive 3D, in fact, quite the opposite, we were always very keen to point out all the other benefits that Cinema 3D passive 3D delivers to the viewers!

I do slightly disagree with you, Dave. It is to everyones advantage if manufacturers pursue different technologies. To choose just one might mean choosing the wrong one.

But I do agree with confusion. I get confused when I google backlit TV and get TVs that are edge-lit. I had assumed that backlit meant LEDs were, well... at the back, not the side. Silly me!

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by LG UK

I wish I could get hold of those 'gift cards'!!

I'm sure you can... You had a ZXSpeccy +3 that's the one the rich kids had. We had a +2 with built in datacorder, no floppy disc for us

So I'm sure you budget allows for a few vouchers to be sent out to those that got royally screwed by LG in 2011.

Surly a gesture of goodwill, promotion or just a lovely advertising stunt to prove you love us enough to keep your loyal fan base happy isnt hard to muster up?

I'll even post a video of my children (who are gorgeous) when they get their new LG 3DTV playing games and watching their first 3D movie at home. They will even personally thank you and LG ... I'm sure you can't put a price on that level of true advertising ... Can you? ... Think of THE CHILDREN DAVE, THE CHILDREN.

You don't HATE THE CHILDREN DO YOU

Wait till reddit hear about this

[vontexx]

For me the prices are fair!
I will buy the 7600 or the 8600 in April, we will see.

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by rogdodge

I do slightly disagree with you, Dave. It is to everyones advantage if manufacturers pursue different technologies. To choose just one might mean choosing the wrong one.

But I do agree with confusion. I get confused when I google backlit TV and get TVs that are edge-lit. I had assumed that backlit meant LEDs were, well... at the back, not the side. Silly me!

Indeed, I remember the confusion with the terminology LED TV too , I actually think it IS healthy to have different types of tech for a product/feature (Betamax,VHS etc..), as long as its made clear of the benefits to the consumer for each one then thats the main thing. We always try to make sure we are clear about all the different positive aspects of passive, i.e. flicker-free, no batteries, lightweight, stylish (sometimes! ), affordable etc... having active 3D systems for people who aren't perhaps as concerned about things like that is fine with me!

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

I'm sure you can... You had a ZXSpeccy +3 that's the one the rich kids had. We had a +2 with built in datacorder, no floppy disc for us

So I'm sure you budget allows for a few vouchers to be sent out to those that got royally screwed by LG in 2011.

Surly a gesture of goodwill, promotion or just a lovely advertising stunt to prove you love us enough to keep your loyal fan base happy isnt hard to muster up?

I'll even post a video of my children (who are gorgeous) when they get their new LG 3DTV playing games and watching their first 3D movie at home. They will even personally thank you and LG ... I'm sure you can't put a price on that level of true advertising ... Can you? ... Think of THE CHILDREN DAVE, THE CHILDREN.

You don't HATE THE CHILDREN DO YOU

Wait till reddit hear about this

haha!! that's awful!! you can't use the 'children' 'card'!!

Besides, we always think of the children! Thats why we make Cinema 3D passive TV's! great for the WHOLE family!

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by LG UK

haha!! that's awful!! you can't use the 'children' 'card'!!

Besides, we always think of the children! Thats why we make Cinema 3D passive TV's! great for the WHOLE family!

touché

[elhefepunk]

Originally Posted by LG UK

I'm sorry for the lack of info on pricing but we are still confirming stock and availability with our retailers, we will of course be in a position to give estimated prices nearer to the launch of the new ranges.

stock and availability?? Surely this should have little impact on your rrp?? Also nearer to launch i would'nt expect estimated prices but an actual rrp! LG have got alot of unhappy customers and personally i'm getting pretty fed up with not even having the most basic of requests ignored unless of course LG are bumping their prices up if the demand is high enough?? I really don't feel that asking for a 'ballpark' figure for each level of the range is out of the question bearing in mind these screens are supposed to be hitting the shelves in little over a month??

i'm trying my hardest to stay positive about LG as a brand but after my recent experiences i'm really starting to think that maybe LG don't value their customers anymore? You would think that after the complete mess of the 2010 flagship 3d models and pretty much the whole 2011 tv range that LG would be bending over backwards to keep us loyal customers happy!

Like i say, what i'm asking for is in no way unreasonable and the longer this goes on the more it starts to look like price fixing!

[ipabzi]

Originally Posted by elhefepunk

stock and availability?? Surely this should have little impact on your rrp?? Also nearer to launch i would'nt expect estimated prices but an actual rrp! LG have got alot of unhappy customers and personally i'm getting pretty fed up with not even having the most basic of requests ignored unless of course LG are bumping their prices up if the demand is high enough?? I really don't feel that asking for a 'ballpark' figure for each level of the range is out of the question bearing in mind these screens are supposed to be hitting the shelves in little over a month??

i'm trying my hardest to stay positive about LG as a brand but after my recent experiences i'm really starting to think that maybe LG don't value their customers anymore? You would think that after the complete mess of the 2010 flagship 3d models and pretty much the whole 2011 tv range that LG would be bending over backwards to keep us loyal customers happy!

Like i say, what i'm asking for is in no way unreasonable and the longer this goes on the more it starts to look like price fixing!

I'm starting to feel a bit disgruntled, as I bought a 55LW550t this month, it has way more crosstalk than usual. Now I spoke to a rep called Callum who basically said to me, after showing pictures, that this is a widespread issue, and they have no fix. He explain how many customers have had this and they cant figure put what is causing it and he said It gets worse over time. So the only option he gave me was to get a refund a buy a different tv. But i want passive and 55 inches, so I think I should get a refund and have no TV until April. Now... I need to know how much these new TVs will be so I know if I can afford one of these after the refund. I could get a refund and wait until April (with no tv) only to find I can't afford any of the 55 inch versions of the new ones anyway!

Dave can you answer this (vaguely if necessary) will the 55LM760t be somewhere between £1,400 and £2,000?

[panman40]

Originally Posted by ipabzi

I'm starting to feel a bit disgruntled, as I bought a 55LW550t this month, it has way more crosstalk than usual. Now I spoke to a rep called Callum who basically said to me, after showing pictures, that this is a widespread issue, and they have no fix. He explain how many customers have had this and they cant figure put what is causing it and he said It gets worse over time. So the only option he gave me was to get a refund a buy a different tv. But i want passive and 55 inches, so I think I should get a refund and have no TV until April. Now... I need to know how much these new TVs will be so I know if I can afford one of these after the refund. I could get a refund and wait until April (with no tv) only to find I can't afford any of the 55 inch versions of the new ones anyway!

Dave can you answer this (vaguely if necessary) will the 55LM760t be somewhere between £1,400 and £2,000?

'Xtalk' ?. Never had that on my 550

[ipabzi]

Originally Posted by panman40

'Xtalk' ?. Never had that on my 550

Do you have the 55"? He said it only effects 55" and 42"?

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by panman40

'Xtalk' ?. Never had that on my 550

You will have, you just mustn't have noticed it. It's currently technically impossible to have 3D without xtalk, it's (at this moment in time using currently technology in use on these sets) a technical impossibility in these sets.

LG say "less xtalk" but they can't and won't say NO Cross talk as it exists as an inherent side effect to the technology.

If you move 10degrees off axis above the screen you will see xtalk, or to far left, or too far right, or to far below.. Or a film encoded a certain way, or 2D to 3D conversion etc tc etc... It exists alright and is mentioned on LG documentation.. That said, some tvs are worse than others and it's highly possible that your TV is less prone to it that others if it has been built to a better standard than others (which judging by the QC this is hily possible)

@ipabzi As for pricing, I would defo expect the 760 to be within that price range... I'm expecting the LM55960v to be within that price range! If thy can ship them to the states from Poland and sell them for $3299 (£2000) then they can drop them off here on the way to the states and sell them for less! There's no excuse for it to be above 2k according to those prices. Plus the OLED will be there mid pricing and hi pricing depending on size.

If LG try to pull some pricing stunt they can go jump !!! I'm not laying a dollar price on a tv that conversion wise is cheaper as we are closer to the factory etc.. If that's the case, I'll order one from the grey market and import it if I have to (along its the rest) but I'm not getting screwed by LG again this year.

They have left me without a TV and apx £200 out of pocket due to this fiasco. I've lost pay from work, petrol, time at home with the family etc and currently have no tv. They better not think of shafting us again...

[NEOSJW]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

You will have, you just mustn't have noticed it. It's currently technically impossible to have 3D without xtalk, it's (at this moment in time using currently technology in use on these sets) a technical impossibility in these sets.

LG say "less xtalk" but they can't and won't say NO Cross talk as it exists as an inherent side effect to the technology.

If you move 10degrees off axis above the screen you will see xtalk, or to far left, or too far right, or to far below.. Or a film encoded a certain way, or 2D to 3D conversion etc tc etc... It exists alright and is mentioned on LG documentation.. That said, some tvs are worse than others and it's highly possible that your TV is less prone to it that others if it has been built to a better standard than others (which judging by the QC this is hily possible)

@ipabzi As for pricing, I would defo expect the 760 to be within that price range... I'm expecting the LM55960v to be within that price range! If thy can ship them to the states from Poland and sell them for $3299 (£2000) then they can drop them off here on the way to the states and sell them for less! There's no excuse for it to be above 2k according to those prices. Plus the OLED will be there mid pricing and hi pricing depending on size.

If LG try to pull some pricing stunt they can go jump !!! I'm not laying a dollar price on a tv that conversion wise is cheaper as we are closer to the factory etc.. If that's the case, I'll order one from the grey market and import it if I have to (along its the rest) but I'm not getting screwed by LG again this year.

They have left me without a TV and apx £200 out of pocket due to this fiasco. I've lost pay from work, petrol, time at home with the family etc and currently have no tv. They better not think of shafting us again...

But look at the difference in price between the 980T and the US based 9800 this year, expect us in the UK to pay may more than our US friends!

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by NEOSJW

But look at the difference in price between the 980T and the US based 9800 this year, expect us in the UK to pay may more than our US friends!

If they do this, I'm giving my money to Samsung! No question! LG is a budget manufactures, they are not in the same league as Samsung in terms of panel quality, overall QC, design, support etc etc etc... If they want to sell products at Samsung prices then there kidding themselves.

Samsung are all about quality, design, functionality and demand high prices much like apple products...

The best example of this is LG phones trying to be sold at Apple prices! What just happened in the news today... Apple overtook LG as a mobile manufacturer... why, because customers didnt pay Apple prices for substandard LG products... And the buffoons at LG were go smacked?

I pay Aople prices for Apple products as they are insanely great! Im a tech/I.T engineer and I'm in the Microsoft Camp... So owning apple products was not an easy thought for me.

But I own many Apple iOS devices as they are design perfection. They are high quality, impeccable design, high quality (reliable) components, bleeding edge technology, covered in highly expensive material, easy to use, functional and flexibly and unbelievably incrediblely initiative to use, so fluid, so simple. They literally make my life easier!

I could not imagine my life without them... LG phones are crammed full of generic components, not optimesed for the product, same spec as everyone other phone and uses a non optimised OS. They then try to make them look like ipohnes and say "Apple sell iphone for x so can we can this iPhone look a like for x too so foolish LG as that backfired massively.

But they can't deny this year they have a huge amount of disgruntled customers, some who will never buy LG again, and have just lost their mobile spot to apple. Will it be the same for 2012 profits... Lets see.. Let's see just how much damage they have actually done to their customer base. I'm not so sure they realise just how easy these mistakes are to repeat...

It looks like an iPhone, works like an iPhone, is more powerful than an iPhone but no one is buying it... Why?

It looks like a Samsung D8000, works like a Samsung D8000 and is more powerful than a Samsung d8000 but no ones buying them why?...

Because we can get the genuine product for a few £££s more you fools! If you are drastically cheaper you have a chance, but not when you try to sell a value brand burger for the price of a gourmet one!

But what do I know, I'm only the guy who's holding the cash they want.. But I wont give you it LG, not unles you sell it to me at a fair price!

A part of me actually wants them to fail a part of me wants them to learn a lesson in how it should be done!

Maybe ill be wrong, who knows, all I know for a fact is that if LG decide to sell this for MORE than the US prices direct conversion (bearing in mind it's cheaper to ship them here from Poland than it is to the USA) I'll not be giving them any cash this year, I'll give them nothing and will give it all to Samsung instead.

Once all the returns from 2011 go through the books, once the results from Apple overtaking them go through the books and once we all hold off and don't buy these (if they are over priced) and buy a competators product instead, then I'm sure LG will realsie that they should have listened to us, the people that provide them with profit, instead of listiening to the idiot who thinks they can copy a design and then slap a premium price tag on... Fools!

Dave you really need to gt prices out, as I too wish to know so I can give my money to a competitor if LG try to hump me without permission. I'm really hoping they don't do a over priceing for the uk, but if they do I really really really want to see them "feel" how bad a decision.p it was and I hope tht all disgruntled LG customers, tweet, blog and vote with their feet and stand up and refuse to pay premium prices for sub standard products.

I know my post seems harsh, but you have to remember, I am £200 down because of LG... I'm not getting that back, it's gone... I have no TV, I had to wait 30days to get my £1200 back. I've been sorely inconvenienced and I've never even got a sorry, good will gesture, nothing. Pizza express got my order wrong recently and gave me a free meal for 4 and a bottle of wine. The value of that was apx £120, they did this (without me asking) because we go there regularly and they didn't want to loose our custom. I tried to refuse it as I was embarrassed but they basically forced it upon us as an apology. I gave LG £1200 and they screwed me, gave me 3 faulty TVs, cost me 2 seperate days off work to sort all this mess out, accused ME of being at fault, made me deal with currys condescending returns policy, made me do physical labour delivering these faulty sets time and time again, cost me petrol and general stress...

What did they give me for this... Not even £10% off my next £1200 purchase! Yet pizza express gave me a £120 family meal + wine when we only spend about £40 a week with them (at most).

So my post seems harsh, but it's not without Merritt.

[vontexx]

@ipabzi

this Onlineshop list it:
Flat Panel LED | JR.com

LG 55LM7600 (760T) = 2399,99$ = 1517.03£

More Price information in the 2012 TV Range Thread.

[elhefepunk]

Originally Posted by vontexx

@ipabzi

this Onlineshop list it:
Flat Panel LED | JR.com

LG 55LM7600 (760T) = 2399,99$ = 1517.03£

More Price information in the 2012 TV Range Thread.

looking at those prices has made my mind up, i'm off to get a d7000! there is no way we'll see direct conversion prices, more like $2000 will convert to £1800. for that kind of money i'd rather have full hd 3d!

[elgriego]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

Maybe ill be wrong, who knows, all I know for a fact is that if LG decide to sell this for MORE than the US prices direct conversion (bearing in mind it's cheaper to ship them here from Poland than it is to the USA) I'll not be giving them any cash this year, I'll give them nothing and will give it all to Samsung instead.

Who told you that the US LG models are made in Poland??? That would be ridiculous. Most likely they get them straight from Korea or maybe from a factory in Mexico or even the US.

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by elgriego

Who told you that the US LG models are made in Poland??? That would be ridiculous. Most likely they get them straight from Korea or maybe from a factory in Mexico or even the US.

What i meant was, Poland is about 50 minutes from here, where as as far as I know they don't build them in the US? I thought it was Korea plant or Poland...

I wasn't await they had a plant in the US, maybe they do, but like apple etc i thought they shipped them from the plants in the east...

Even if there is a plant in Mexico, that's still a he'll of a lot further logistically than Poland is to us

[elgriego]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

What i meant was, Poland is about 50 minutes from here, where as as far as I know they don't build them in the US? I thought it was Korea plant or Poland...

I wasn't await they had a plant in the US, maybe they do, but like apple etc i thought they shipped them from the plants in the east...

Even if there is a plant in Mexico, that's still a he'll of a lot further logistically than Poland is to us

Just found more info

LG Global Operations | LG USA

Where it says production are the factories, there are 3 in Mexico for North America. The factories in Poland make all the different models for LG and the UK specs are usually different than the rest of Europe and this is where lays some of the difference in pricing for the UK.

[elhefepunk]

Originally Posted by vontexx

@ipabzi

this Onlineshop list it:
Flat Panel LED | JR.com

LG 55LM7600 (760T) = 2399,99$ = 1517.03£

More Price information in the 2012 TV Range Thread.

Comes to something that the retailers are able to give out more details about lg's products than lg themselves lol... Anyway, just noticed that yet again they have decided to drop the zoom aspect control like they did on the lw550 and lw650 so i'm now 100% finished with lg.. Dave on the lm760 thread said there was going to be a zoom mode but this turns out to be just cinema zoom by the sounds of it!

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by elgriego

Just found more info

LG Global Operations | LG USA

Where it says production are the factories, there are 3 in Mexico for North America. The factories in Poland make all the different models for LG and the UK specs are usually different than the rest of Europe and this is where lays some of the difference in pricing for the UK.

Originally Posted by elhefepunk

Comes to something that the retailers are able to give out more details about lg's products than lg themselves lol... Anyway, just noticed that yet again they have decided to drop the zoom aspect control like they did on the lw550 and lw650 so i'm now 100% finished with lg.. Dave on the lm760 thread said there was going to be a zoom mode but this turns out to be just cinema zoom by the sounds of it!

The Poland factory assembles the TV's for the UK but not for the U.S

Could you tell me more about the difference between Zoom aspect control and 'cinema zoom' I think I may have got confused. The zoom I saw allowed you to stretch and move about up and down / left and right??