[darnun]

Back off topic ;-)
I have exactly the same setup on the ATV as you Craig and yes it does look wonderful.....that's XBMC though NOT the ATV that's giving you that. Streaming to it from a MAC is a nightmare. The AFP protocol is a pain. I'm not slagging the ATV off, just there are a number of different boxes that will do so much better than ATV. That shows that the apple products do have more limitations than most. I'm talking streaming only here.
Check out the new Raspberry Pi, I think it's called :-)

Back on topic - I think Dave is either lying very low index or has been booted out or at least off here.
Shame on you Dave. I can't believe you gave in to our demands so easily....Actually, if you are that easy to push, can I have a new LM960V for testing purposes please :-)

[darnun]

Have to agree with you on the Smart stuff though mate. It's on bloody everything nowadays. I have a PS3 for that stuff. I don't need it on a TV. I also have the latest Onkyo AMP for sound so I don't need speakers.
I have lost my 3D holographic R2D2 droid, so I have to rely on a TV for that. Add 2D excellence and the streaming functionality and I have what I want.

[CraigPollard85]

Originally Posted by darnun

As for LG being a sector, well I am a little gobsmacked at that to be honest. Maybe when they were the only ones doing passive then I could maybe understand that they were unique but saying they are their own sector is a bit far off.

It was actually apple that has essentially become a sector of its own - not LG.
Slight typo from ZXSpeccy i assume

Re: ATV, I dont stream from my Mac which may be why i dont get the issues. I set my NAS up as an SMB on XBMC and stream directly from that. Means the MacBook can actually be turned off from time to time

I say we start hounding Dave for some freebies as well

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by CraigPollard85

It was actually apple that has essentially become a sector of its own - not LG.
Slight typo from ZXSpeccy i assume

Re: ATV, I dont stream from my Mac which may be why i dont get the issues. I set my NAS up as an SMB on XBMC and stream directly from that. Means the MacBook can actually be turned off from time to time

I say we start hounding Dave for some freebies as well

It indeed was a typo, I was actually writing that in the back of a cab on a bumpy road
Hence my rather inapropritly placed infant... rather than "in fact"

LG wish they were a sector, what apple has done has pretty much never been done before. For a company to become a sector unto its self is almost unimaginable.

But as someone posted above, i know when I buy apple, I have sheer blind confidence that it'll work, and it'll be of the best quality humanly possible, and if not, I know apple will just replace it with no questions asked at a store or online or wherever.

Their return policy is second to none. We had a crackd iPhone4 that also had the button go a bit unresponsive (because I dropped it ) and apple replaced the cracked back, and button for free under warranty even though they knew it was dropped

That's why I give them the money they ask!

On the other hand,
Dave posted in here that there were known faults with the 2011 models, that the media, staff and customers know about, and said they didnt want to repeat those faults in the 2012 lineup.

When a user from the forums called LG after being advised to by dave, he was told that no such faults existed or were/have ever been logged or reported to LG and his DSE, Light bleed, Banding, sync issues and lag etc etc were all "within spec" ...

Big difference in my opinion.

When LG give me apple quality products, apple quality care, apple easy of use, sustainable Eco system that is not made redundant year after year (like the current smart and 3d/dual play features etc) and apple like returns policy... then I too will give them the big bucks... Until then I'll pay the current high quality manufactures to look after me.

No manufacture is Perfect, but I can say without bias or contempt that samsung, Sony, Phillips, pioneer all produce TVs that (IMO) are a better quality/standard than that of LG.

I personally see LG as the lesser of those players, meaning that I can usually buy LGs top end tv for the price of a mid range Sony/Samsung etc...

Seems like they are now trying to sell their tvs at a price higher than that of samsungs top end models

Really LG... If I am wrong, then I apologise... But these actions speak only negative undertones to me...

Prices removed, Dave disappeared with no response... Why?

If those MSRPs were too high most companies would leve them up so that when the tvs are relased people would say "wow, £300 cheaper than MSRP, amazing"

To remove them means you don't want us saying "eh? £3100 for a 55LM960v... But Dave said £2899.99"

If they were to high, they would only bring Positive feedback on relase day. We all know MSRPs are not RRPs.

Well march 1st dave said.. let's wait and see I suppose...

Originally Posted by CraigPollard85

Anyway, back on topic... erm.... Where's Dave?

I found him over here posing... Such a dreamboat...
Dave Cottrell - United Kingdom | LinkedIn

His account was used today on here, plus hes not been fired yet... So I assume he was told just lay low until March 1st as maybe LG wanna do the price relase or something.

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

I found him over here posing... Such a dreamboat...
Dave Cottrell - United Kingdom | LinkedIn

His account was used today on here, plus hes not been fired yet... So I assume he was told just lay low until March 1st as maybe LG wanna do the price relase or something.

That pic was taken over 9 years ago.... much worse than that now.

Prices were removed as they were not final and representative of the exact MSRPs. HOWEVER, they ARE still ballpark figures that are now clearly publicly available for all to see now. (the danger of providing prices before final confirmation from retails on stocking/ranging quantities etc.. I guess. )

You are correct, ALL comments on pricing cannot be discussed until announced (not by me!) on our official website OR by our retailers at their discretion.

Personally i'd love it if we could get back to keeping the thread on the topic of the LM960V???....

[darnun]

Hey good to have you back Dave. Getting worried a bit there but, from your picture you look like a tough cookie, so I doubt you'd be bothered too much by us moaning old gits.
So what exactly is being released tomorrow then.?
I think my budget will only go to the 860V 47" so am interested in what's happening tomorrow.

[Crunchie]

Welcome back Dave - can you tell me if TruMotion has been perfected on the 2012 models? Last year I bought the 980T which had terrible juddering on News Channels ticker bars whenever I used any setting of TM, so I swapped it for a 550T but this judders when the channel's bitrate isn't too great (such as on BBC1-HD EastEnders).

I can convince the wife to try a new model but only if the image is smooth as silk on ALL sources ALL the time.

[CraigPollard85]

Well, I did try to keep each post somewhat on topic ;o)

With pictures coming out of CES in January, Full Specs coming in March and retail prices coming with the release in April, there is only so much we can repeat before we get distracted ;o)

Welcome back Dave...

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by darnun

Hey good to have you back Dave. Getting worried a bit there but, from your picture you look like a tough cookie, so I doubt you'd be bothered too much by us moaning old gits.
So what exactly is being released tomorrow then.?
I think my budget will only go to the 860V 47" so am interested in what's happening tomorrow.

I'm pretty much used to the good comments and bad comments and can usually see everything from both sides (I'm actually not that different from a normal human being.... ) I don't work in the TV (OR website) dept. so i'm not responsible for the output of what happens there but i'll try and get some info on whats happening and when but please bear in mind that we don't even have (all) the new products in our warehouses yet so there's still some time to get things ready in time for the April launch.

Originally Posted by Crunchie

Welcome back Dave - can you tell me if TruMotion has been perfected on the 2012 models? Last year I bought the 980T which had terrible juddering on News Channels ticker bars whenever I used any setting of TM, so I swapped it for a 550T but this judders when the channel's bitrate isn't too great (such as on BBC1-HD EastEnders).

I can convince the wife to try a new model but only if the image is smooth as silk on ALL sources ALL the time.

To be totally honest with you i'd need to spend a lot of time with one (hopefully we'll be getting some more production samples soon) so I can give a proper account. Also this will be something that most pre reviewers will give an opinion on. we'll be getting models sent over to the media VERY soon!

Originally Posted by CraigPollard85

Well, I did try to keep each post somewhat on topic ;o)

With pictures coming out of CES in January, Full Specs coming in March and retail prices coming with the release in April, there is only so much we can repeat before we get distracted ;o)

Welcome back Dave...

I don't blame you at all!

[darnun]

Question for you Dave.
If you get these sets in and you get the pleasure of thoroughly testing them and you find some issues still there, that were evident in the 2011 models, would you be honest with us and say or would you be true to LG and deny you see anything?
It's not a dig but a genuinely honest question.? I suppose either answer is right, in some way......

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by darnun

Question for you Dave.
If you get these sets in and you get the pleasure of thoroughly testing them and you find some issues still there, that were evident in the 2011 models, would you be honest with us and say or would you be true to LG and deny you see anything?
It's not a dig but a genuinely honest question.? I suppose either answer is right, in some way......

The irony of that question is that the TV's in the office that I tested DIDN'T have any banding or clouding (that I could see!!) FACT! That does NOT mean that I didn't believe the problem existed though, however, due to its varying nature of severity it was a tough call to make for our CS team and engineers which is why it was dealt with (rightly or wrongly) on an individual basis.

As I mentioned, its FAR better for you to hear a review from an independent source as, although I know I have my own morals, I would totally understand the lack of trust from getting this kind of info from us directly!....

[darnun]

Fair answer Dave. Please say that you will post your thoughts on the sets here anyway, even if it's just all the positives you find. I honestly won't think anything about you saying what we want to hear and all that rubbish.
If you say that something is good then I believe you.

All I know is that have a few 3D games and a small pile of 3D blurays that need some proper loving. It can't be April soon enough.

[celle]

Why no 60" version for Europe?

[roguejackal]

Originally Posted by celle

Why no 60" version for Europe?

Yes il 2nd that not sure if i can fit the 65" in as the dimensions are not up for it

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by LG UK

I'm pretty much used to the good comments and bad comments and can usually see everything from both sides (I'm actually not that different from a normal human being.... ) I don't work in the TV (OR website) dept. so i'm not responsible for the output of what happens there but i'll try and get some info on whats happening and when but please bear in mind that we don't even have (all) the new products in our warehouses yet so there's still some time to get things ready in time for the April launch.



To be totally honest with you i'd need to spend a lot of time with one (hopefully we'll be getting some more production samples soon) so I can give a proper account. Also this will be something that most pre reviewers will give an opinion on. we'll be getting models sent over to the media VERY soon!



I don't blame you at all!

You blame me don't you

Ahh what the hell, I don't mind im just glad to have you back dave, we love you in here and really appreciate your posts.


Will the march announcement (which wont be tomorrow guys, as it's a leap year this year ) contain an actual relase date for the 55lm960v and information regarding the local dimming zones... e.g more than the 96 zones on the 980 etc..

That information would be great and will benefit a lot of folks I think.

Also, will you guys be announcing stockists etc? Like the 650T was a currys exclusive, will some of the new models follow the same path?

Anyway, glad to know your ok and that we didn't get you Into any trouble or anything

Ps
We actually share the odd person in our LinkedIn profile inner/outer networks

[phepsy1234]

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

[...] information regarding the local dimming zones... [...]

That mainest parameter! ( .. along with the price .. ) Keep open eye on it..

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by celle

Why no 60" version for Europe?

Not sure if i'll find a definitive reason for this, retailer demand (lack of?!)

Originally Posted by meyerovb

Dave, looks like you're back. Wanna take a peak at my post on the main 2012 thread as I'm getting a little nervous over my choice of wall mount. Thanks! And welcome back

That Q might have to wait until I see one in the flesh, sorry.

Originally Posted by ZXSpeccy

You blame me don't you

Ahh what the hell, I don't mind im just glad to have you back dave, we love you in here and really appreciate your posts.


Will the march announcement (which wont be tomorrow guys, as it's a leap year this year ) contain an actual relase date for the 55lm960v and information regarding the local dimming zones... e.g more than the 96 zones on the 980 etc..

That information would be great and will benefit a lot of folks I think.

Also, will you guys be announcing stockists etc? Like the 650T was a currys exclusive, will some of the new models follow the same path?

Anyway, glad to know your ok and that we didn't get you Into any trouble or anything

Ps
We actually share the odd person in our LinkedIn profile inner/outer networks

Luckily the web announcement is probably more to do with our mutual friend and his boss? so i'm not sure of the exact plans....
Dimming zones is top of my list to actually physically COUNT them, if you think i'm going by the spec sheets again!!!? nooooooo way!! (just in case!)
some of our larger retailers SOMETIMES get exclusives but they are mainly based on design/colour rather than really important features to ensure that everyone (customers, not retailers!) has as much choice as possible and minimal restrictions to actual feature/technology.

As usual (sorry!!) there is no real 'point to me' until the (final production) product(s) arrive where I can check them with my own eyes and answer your spec questions.

[J4CK DANIELS]

sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, quiet everyone..... he's back............. don't get to close or make a noise..............

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by J4CK DANIELS

sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, quiet everyone..... he's back............. don't get to close or make a noise..............

Haha!! Thanks Jack! I hope you're camped out in a camouflaged hide

[J4CK DANIELS]

Originally Posted by LG UK

Haha!! Thanks Jack! I hope you're camped out in a camouflaged hide

Lol, who are you calling 'camp'!!
For what it's worth, I think the 2012 products look stunning, still don't really see the value of Smarttv and not sure how much you can really get away on design alone, but as long as the build quality is REASONABLE (I.e within spec and pricetag!! ) I think LG might be able to keep Samsung JUST in sight! The rest of the competition has a fair bit of work to do in my opinion.

[Member 300569]

Originally Posted by meyerovb

As of today usa nyc retailer J&R has 55LM6700 in stock and shipping (I would have been one of the first recipients if I hadn't changed my pre-order to the 7600). Curious as to how consumers are getting at them before internal LG people who produce specs... is it cause you're uk dave?

Also, didn't you already unbox a 6700?

Fraid so.
it goes:
1st Korea
2nd U.S
3rd EU

The 670 wasn't a production model and went straight out for photography anyway!

[BigJC]

Oh come on "some of our larger retailers SOMETIMES get exclusives but they are mainly based on design/colour rather than really important features to ensure that everyone (customers, not retailers!) has as much choice as possible and minimal restrictions to actual feature/technology.".

It's because they want a dumb price match guarantee and to say they are cheaper than anyone else, of course they are if its only available in that store.

[murysan]

Take a look at the italian site!
TV Nano Full Led, Tv Cinema 3D, Smart TV, LG 55LM960V, tv 55 pollici | Televisori LG

[darnun]

Well it's the 1st March.....what can we expect Dave......Let us have it :-)

[darnun]

Also noticed no 760T on the full range of tv's on that italian site?????

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by darnun

Well it's the 1st March.....what can we expect Dave......Let us have it :-)

Nothing on the uk site yet?...
That Italian site above does lead us to believe that dts is supported via USB though... Which is a plus.

[darnun]

Yeah uk site is still as was........I am not sure anything will go on to the UK site today either....I could be wrong.

[GerardH]

On the Italian site it looks like the stand for the LM960V is different from the original. It looks more like a Samsung stand.

[ZXSpeccy]

Originally Posted by GerardH

On the Italian site it looks like the stand for the LM960V is different from the original. It looks more like a Samsung stand.

I've seen 3 stand designs for the 960v from different sites but I'd hope LG have the right one.

I actually prefer the one on the Italian site..

@Dave,
we're 55% of the way through the 1st of March and still no updates. Not to be a bummder or anything, but if this is another false post from you I'm gonna remove you from my linked in profile

So far, You've given us prices that were wrong, dates that never happened, incorrect dimming zones amount last year fr the 980, incorrect release dates last year, incorrect website updates c'mon dave... At least post and tell us it's not happening so we can move on

[darnun]

Have to agree Speccy. I've just been to test out the 980T and to be honest, it gave me no issues whatsoever, so I am genuinely considering getting that instead of waiting. My other option is the 650T which save me loads of money, I could buy a nice new lens for my camera :-)
I am getting so sick of waiting now and not knowing what the heck is going on that I am honestly considering the options above.
I'm not blaming Dave, to be honest. If he had all the answers he would be so high in LG, he wouldn't talk to the likes of us commoners. I would hope that he could at least tell us why March 1st seems to be another day of nothing when it was in the plan as the day to let us all know the finer details.

To be honest Dave, You're not doing yourself any favours though by going quiet when we get a little cheesed off......It's making us think you are avoiding the issues or you're leading us up a path, just to keep us happy. Come on mate. Just let us know what's going on, even if it's not good or contradicts your last message.