[couchpotato]

Just to post about viewing angles and distances. I sit approx 11.5 feet from my screen. My seat (armachair) is about 3 foot off direct axis and the picture gets very slightly washed out. Sitting directly in front of the screen I cannot fault it.

Using the settings previously set out I was commenting from my viewing position which I now realise gives slightly inaccurate feedback.

Had plasmas since 2002 and this is my first LCD/LED. The horizontal viewing angles are a little disappointing compared to plasma (side to side). The blacks on this screen I would say are superior to my previous plasma screens when viewed face on.

Sound seems poor until you turn surround on then you get the bass that was missing in normal mode, makes voices in particular seem more natural.

[jitu]

Got mine weekend, initial impression looks bigger than in showroom!! (54.25 inches across) Stand is solid as stated here now looks puney on cabinet so will need to wall-mount. To me picture looks very colourful/blueish tint out of box. HD looks REALLY stunning while SD looks little worse than samsung LCD had - daily dose of last of the summer wines looks as if played back via old video tape - will sit further back for viewing & once compete adjustments given see how picture looks.
Wish had proper booklet rather than USB stick. Not impressed by remote but can't have everything perfect! Sound is alot better than expected as old samsung very tinny.
Don't think misses will tolerate a surround system in the lounge as well so has anyone views on sharp's sound bars advertised by richer sounds?

Not used to the motion on the set yet, was watching Film4 doc film sunday & looked like film advancing ever-so-lightly faster than should be. (like minor keystone cops) Maybe once get used to set won't notice it as much.
Slight white patches on dark screen not noticeable too much as LED's light have a long way to travel from edges.
Hoping to get picture just right once set-up just right with given values here as picture feels slightly artifical for now. Used dynamic setting for manchester derby on ITV HD & grass colour looked like it came out of a disney film!

Initally VERY happy and impressed by the sharp's 60 inches for a grand,
don't think will miss 3D too much for now.

regards

[shark17]

Originally Posted by jitu

Not used to the motion on the set yet, was watching Film4 doc film sunday & looked like film advancing ever-so-lightly faster than should be. (like minor keystone cops) Maybe once get used to set won't notice it as much.
Slight white patches on dark screen not noticeable too much as LED's light have a long way to travel from edges.
Hoping to get picture just right once set-up just right with given values here as picture feels slightly artifical for now. Used dynamic setting for manchester derby on ITV HD & grass colour looked like it came out of a disney film!

Hi Jitu,


I have an AV receiver and Speakers so have no real experince of sound bars but it will surely be better than the speakers in any Slim LED lit TV and at least give your movies some oomph.

You can get rid of the foibles you mention above quite easily.

Dynamic mode is really over cooked with everthing maxed out so you will see flashlighting from the LEDs plus the colours are horrific, At the very least you should try it in Movie mode but if you like a more natural calibrated picture try dialling in the settings posted on page 1.

As for the Keystone Cops look you mention its more commonly known as the soap Opera effect and can be got rid of by turning the 100Hz feature off.

Just go into In the Menu go to Tool then Picture click on Advanced then switch off Fine Motion and Film mode.


Regards.

[jitu]

Thanks SHARK17!

Really, really hated 'soap opera effect' - thought would have to get use to it over time. In movie mode switched off fine motion & film mode so now natural, realistic movement on films so REALLY happy.

Also carried out movie mode settings page 1 now a VERY natural picture & tweaked mine bit higher contrast/brightness/lower colour to get great natural pic.(left range of OPC unaltered guessed as off leave well alone)

Doesn't mean won't use other mode settings - watched monsters vs. aliens last night (purely for setting reasons i add) recorded from BBC1 not even BBCHD sky and on Dynamic looked absolutely stunning! Will use dynamic for CGI films in future.

SD pictures very good most channels (HD FAB!) think problem i had was watching alot of old recordings on gold & yesterday channel (eg last of the summer wines) where SD looked very poor on viewing on 60' screen.

regards

[Hem]

Finally - delivery confirmed for tomorrow. Will post my findings once up and running.

[couchpotato]

Bought a media streamer to link up because I didn't realise if you hardwire the tv to your router instead of using the wireless option you can playback movies over the ethernet connection. Will be taking my western digital streamer back tomorrow

[couchpotato]

Just wondering if anyone has any back light issues, can be seen more on a greyish background. Shows up as uneven lighting across the panel. Barely noticeable while watching movies but is there.

[RAGER]

Getting very frustrated with the fluctuating price. I notice John Lewis is now back up to £1300. PC World are doing the same, last week it was £999, now £1300. Do they not realise they are losing sales as people wont purchase at the higher price (well I certainly wont be for sure!)

[couchpotato]

Originally Posted by RAGER

Getting very frustrated with the fluctuating price. I notice John Lewis is now back up to £1300. PC World are doing the same, last week it was £999, now £1300. Do they not realise they are losing sales as people wont purchase at the higher price (well I certainly wont be for sure!)

Not sure if Richersounds are still at £999 but if they are John Lewis will pricematch and you get a free 5 year warranty

[RAGER]

Originally Posted by couchpotato

Not sure if Richersounds are still at £999 but if they are John Lewis will pricematch and you get a free 5 year warranty

Thanks for that. Just checked Richer Sounds, they are selling at £1300 saying its been reduced by £100 from previous price of £1400. What a con!!

[Hem]

If you are able to access the Sharp Affinity programme the set is still listed at £999 with a 5 year warranty, which can be used with the Quidco 5% cashback bringing it £949.

Just waiting for delivery tomorrow. Luckily I'm going to be working from home

[grizgut]

Couchpotato,

I think what you're describing is called D.S.E (dirty screen effect) as I have now found out. I returned my first one of these sets as I could see 'blobs' of dark over the screen (in the same places) when I watched football matches i.e. a uniform colour across the screen. This was most visible when there were fast pans across pitch. Not really noticeable until this happens, but it was annoying me. The second set has the same issue to a slightly lesser degree and I am now considering whether the price and size of the screen outweigh what appears to be a problem(?) with these screens.

I have only had a 40inch LCD screen before this and have not seen this D.S.E on my, or other friends LCD's or plasma screens. Does anyone know if this is a generic problem with very large LCD screens?

Kudos for Richer Sounds in changing the screen for another one without quibble and quickly too.

[couchpotato]

Originally Posted by grizgut

Couchpotato,

I think what you're describing is called D.S.E (dirty screen effect) as I have now found out. I returned my first one of these sets as I could see 'blobs' of dark over the screen (in the same places) when I watched football matches i.e. a uniform colour across the screen. This was most visible when there were fast pans across pitch. Not really noticeable until this happens, but it was annoying me. The second set has the same issue to a slightly lesser degree and I am now considering whether the price and size of the screen outweigh what appears to be a problem(?) with these screens.

I have only had a 40inch LCD screen before this and have not seen this D.S.E on my, or other friends LCD's or plasma screens. Does anyone know if this is a generic problem with very large LCD screens?

Kudos for Richer Sounds in changing the screen for another one without quibble and quickly too.

grizgut
I am thinking about it as well. Looked in at Comet and the screen there has the same sort of problems so I am assuming it is a characteristic of Edge lit LCD screens. Have gone from a 50 inch Panasonic Plasma and weighing up the pros and cons of this screen at the moment. When the pic is good it is excellent. Like you, I watch a lot of footie and wondering if I will get used to it.

[Deano_uk]

Originally Posted by Hem

If you are able to access the Sharp Affinity programme the set is still listed at £999 with a 5 year warranty, which can be used with the Quidco 5% cashback bringing it £949.

Just waiting for delivery tomorrow. Luckily I'm going to be working from home

Now showing as £1199 and out of stock. Gutted!!

[Hem]

All set up and on the wallmount. All I can say is - Wow! Some slight DSE noticable on a completely black screen but that's it. The black levels are a real surprise, I don't think I've ever seen such deep blacks on an LCD. I was gearing up to buy a plasma but I'm more than happy with the picture on this set.

[Hem]

Originally Posted by Deano_uk

Now showing as £1199 and out of stock. Gutted!!

I see the price has now gone up, bad luck. Hopefully when stock is replenished there will be some further discounting.

[grizgut]

Just saw Watchmen in HD and I'm back in love with the TV, the DSE is really only a problem when watching football, the green seems to highlight the problem. I've done a lot of research and it would seem that nearly all the 'value' large screens are affected by this problem to a greater or lesser extent. I could swap this for another large screen and have the same issues or get a 'better' brand in a much smaller size, which I don't really want to do. I think I might stick for now.

[shark17]

Originally Posted by grizgut

Just saw Watchmen in HD and I'm back in love with the TV, the DSE is really only a problem when watching football, the green seems to highlight the problem. I've done a lot of research and it would seem that nearly all the 'value' large screens are affected by this problem to a greater or lesser extent. I could swap this for another large screen and have the same issues or get a 'better' brand in a much smaller size, which I don't really want to do. I think I might stick for now.

Its not Just the Value sets if you read through the Samsung and LG threads for the expensive flagship versions of those manufactures LCD/LED sets you will find many posters complaining of exactly the same thing and more, Its the nature of the beast with edge lighting.

At least theres no Banding on these sets, Now that would do your head in whilst watching football.

On a side note ive not seen any DSE on my screen It can have patchy light distribution if I crank Brightness and backlight up but its very minimal and I suppose it could look a bit like DSE are people confusing it for that?.

[Roblodocus]

Just a short post, the lag on this TV is ridiculous, it almost feels like 500ms, gaming mode isn't much better either, the curser seems to move what feels like half a second later when using the PC, watching any sort of video through the PC means you hear the audio much sooner than you see the video too.

I'm sending it back.

Fantastic TV for the money (£999), just useless when it comes to lag.

[grizgut]

What wall mounts have you used? I've got a generic mount with two bars like this one here

Sharp sell one which is a square bracket, am I OK with the one I'm using now?

[Hem]

Originally Posted by shark17

Its not Just the Value sets if you read through the Samsung and LG threads for the expensive flagship versions of those manufactures LCD/LED sets you will find many posters complaining of exactly the same thing and more, Its the nature of the beast with edge lighting.

At least theres no Banding on these sets, Now that would do your head in whilst watching football.

On a side note ive not seen any DSE on my screen It can have patchy light distribution if I crank Brightness and backlight up but its very minimal and I suppose it could look a bit like DSE are people confusing it for that?.

I think I might be using the wrong terminology with DSE. The only issue I’ve noticed so far is as you described, slight uneven light distribution on a black screen (clouding?). However it is very slight and completely unnoticeable under normal viewing. It’s early days yet but I want to ensure if there are any major issues I pick up on them sooner in case I need to return the set – but in all honesty I have to say so far I’m completely blown away by just how good this tv is.

Tomorrow I need to take the set back off the wall and move the backplate up around 6 inches so the bottom of the screen is in line with the dado rail which will give me clearance for the centre speaker. Not looking forward to lugging this great beast around again but it can’t be helped.

[Hem]

Originally Posted by grizgut

What wall mounts have you used? I've got a generic mount with two bars like this one here

Sharp sell one which is a square bracket, am I OK with the one I'm using now?

I'm using a similar but not so slimline tilting mount I've had since 2006. Works just fine. I had a dig around to find the original M8 screws that came with it as I thought such a large set would use these but was surprised to find it uses the same M6 as in my old 37 inch Toshiba.

Looks impressive wall mounted doesn’t it!!

[couchpotato]

Originally Posted by Hem

I'm using a similar but not so slimline tilting mount I've had since 2006. Works just fine. I had a dig around to find the original M8 screws that came with it as I thought such a large set would use these but was surprised to find it uses the same M6 as in my old 37 inch Toshiba.

Looks impressive wall mounted doesn’t it!!

Could you tell me how long the M6 screws that you use are. I've used the ones that came with the stand but they are far too long. With such a slim screen I'm scared of using too long a screw and over tightening them.

[Hem]

Originally Posted by couchpotato

Could you tell me how long the M6 screws that you use are. I've used the ones that came with the stand but they are far too long. With such a slim screen I'm scared of using too long a screw and over tightening them.

I'll try to remember to measure when I take it down tomorrow. I did compare to the screws that come with the pedestal stand and they only looked a little shorter, maybe one, two mm maximum. If you are using both the lock and normal washer that came with these I wouldn't think there would be anything in it length wise.

[avanzato]

Originally Posted by Roblodocus

Just a short post, the lag on this TV is ridiculous, it almost feels like 500ms, gaming mode isn't much better either, the curser seems to move what feels like half a second later when using the PC, watching any sort of video through the PC means you hear the audio much sooner than you see the video too.

I'm sending it back.

Fantastic TV for the money (£999), just useless when it comes to lag.

I've had no particular problem with lag on my PC when set to Game mode, will agree that every other mode is unusable.

[Hem]

Couchpotato, the thread depth on the M6 screws is 15mm. I'm sure the stand screws you are using will be just fine.

[re5pect]

Hi, I bought one two weeks ago to move my 55" Samsung to bedroom. I must say that on standard settings Samsung is much better picture quality, but after week of adjusting I can place them very close. Only one problem is input lag on any other setting than GAME, I have no problem like that on Samsung, plus Samsung have extra future to rename input to PC and picture quality is much sharper in windows, plus input lag is reduced even more and as counter strike gamer I have no problem to play. But for that money for that BIG screen I must say it stays in living room for while

[jambof1985]

Hey guys,

based on all the info on this thread I took the plunge and bought one of these beasts. Mounted it no problems and looks awsome. I calibrated to the settings posted and looks amazing.

I have an issue though, when I connect my PS3 via HDMI 1.4a I can not get a resolution higher than 480p?

Tested all 4 HDMI ports and same thing, is there a setting on the TV i have disabled thats causing this?

Sky HD and Emachines ER1401 both HDMI display 1080p and 1080i with no issues but the PS3 only gives me a black screen as if no signal is being recieved/sent.

Please help, im dying for a shot of COD to see if its bad on this TV.

Thanks Jamie

[avanzato]

My PS3 works with no problem on the screen have you tried running the PS3 HDMI video setup again?

[shark17]

Originally Posted by jambof1985

Hey guys,

based on all the info on this thread I took the plunge and bought one of these beasts. Mounted it no problems and looks awsome. I calibrated to the settings posted and looks amazing.

I have an issue though, when I connect my PS3 via HDMI 1.4a I can not get a resolution higher than 480p?

Tested all 4 HDMI ports and same thing, is there a setting on the TV i have disabled thats causing this?

Sky HD and Emachines ER1401 both HDMI display 1080p and 1080i with no issues but the PS3 only gives me a black screen as if no signal is being recieved/sent.

Please help, im dying for a shot of COD to see if its bad on this TV.

Thanks Jamie

Our 360 works perfect with it, Ive not got a PS3 anymore its been a couple of yrs but if IIRC you can go into settings on PS3 and untick all other resolutions and just leave 1080p ticked to force it?, Other than that it could be a dodgy HDMI cable so try changing it over with another of your sources to test.