[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by UltiResis

Is that showing a little line bleed on the sides of the letters or is it just the camera? I know line bleed is something the plasmas suffer but mostly on credits and adverts. If that is as bad as it gets then I could cope with that, only other thing is buzzing and putting up with active 3D.

Could easily be the camera with regards to white lettering on black backgrounds- I know it's hard to take those kind of pics. Best person to ask is zAndy

As for buzzing, the D6900 51" is supposed to be very very quiet (u have to be right up close to hear). Unfortunately the 59" is reportedly louder than the 51" though.

The only thing for me is Active 3D, which I didn't want to get into again. But one of the reasons I wanted to go to Passive is void now (my missus getting headaches with Active- we found she got them with Passive too anyway).

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

The only thing for me is Active 3D, which I didn't want to get into again. But one of the reasons I wanted to go to Passive is void now (my missus getting headaches with Active- we found she got them with Passive too anyway).

Long shot mate but can you change the wife? (come on you knew that was coming )

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by Dr Spoon

Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. I bought the blu ray boxed set when it came out but have refused to watch it until I get a Tv worthy of watching it one. It's just one of about 10 movies beside the tv stand, in what the missus is now calling the 'Forbidden Pile'

Haha! I know what u mean- I have a few blu's I was going to save watching till I bought the 980t. Only now, they're still waiting till I get the 6900

I think I'll be having my own "Forbidden Pile" too at this rate

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Long shot mate but can you change the wife? (come on you knew that was coming )

already tried mate- she kept coming back and kicking out the cleaner!

[UltiResis]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Ok mate, now where is the hug smilie?

S.T.F.U and gimme a snog already

[UltiResis]

Originally Posted by Dr Spoon

Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. I bought the blu ray boxed set when it came out but have refused to watch it until I get a Tv worthy of watching it one. It's just one of about 10 movies beside the tv stand, in what the missus is now calling the 'Forbidden Pile'

Ha ha that must be the exact same forbidden pile as I have in my living room LOL

[Dr Spoon]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

My point about smoking was 50 years ago it wasn't thought to be bad to your health(asbestos has a similar story), whats to say in 20 years we find out more about the human eye?

Again i am not telling anyone to do anything, if i can help anyone then that is great but if not and you disagree that is fine and your right as a human being.

Ah yeah sure who knows what might be harmful. It is interesting how often we hear scaremongering though and stuff turns out to be pretty harmless (like the mobile phone stuff) but as you say maybe in 20 years we'll find out all sorts of stuff was slightly harmful. Until then we can go on enjoying our tvs... although not the 980 I'm afraid. I'll remember to check in with my optician on a regular basis and will shout if anything comes up in the ophthalmology journals though so you'll know if there is cause to worry

Maybe I can get him to register on this forum and he can answer questions. I'll bribe him with a couple of beers

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by UltiResis

S.T.F.U and gimme a snog already

Who are u directing that toward? Or are u just being a tart and asking everybody?

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by Dr Spoon

Ah yeah sure who knows what might be harmful. It is interesting how often we hear scaremongering though and stuff turns out to be pretty harmless (like the mobile phone stuff) but as you say maybe in 20 years we'll find out all sorts of stuff was slightly harmful. Until then we can go on enjoying our tvs... although not the 980 I'm afraid. I'll remember to check in with my optician on a regular basis and will shout if anything comes up in the ophthalmology journals though so you'll know if there is cause to worry

I know i can be a hypochondriac i just like being safe, its who i am.

[Dr Spoon]

Originally Posted by UltiResis

Ha ha that must be the exact same forbidden pile as I have in my living room LOL

heheh :D

[UltiResis]

Originally Posted by xavi

I love this thread: IS A MEETING POINT. Everybody buying another tv but coming here to talk about ...

About 3d passive tvs for 3d movies, is there anyone as good as LW980?

Yes we could do with a sidebar/general chat thread here.

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

Who are u directing that toward? Or are u just being a tart and asking everybody?

Im hoping me and i will fight you for it.

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Im hoping me and i will fight you for it.

Pud 'em up, Pud 'em uuup!!!

[UltiResis]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

Who are u directing that toward? Or are u just being a tart and asking everybody?

Yep realised I was just whoreing myself to all and sundry so edited my post with a quote to make it clear But then again...

You'll both have to fight my missus though if she finds out

[UltiResis]

Seems that Samsung have signed up with Du-Pont for OLED printing tech and manufacture.

Du Pont reckon they can now "print a 50" screen in a matter of a couple of minutes and it is very cheap to do" "using a continuous ink method".

We could see the prices of OLED become cheap very quickly!

I know this was announced last year about the new technique but the Samsung signing up is recent news and still a rumour that is not quite confirmed. I wonder if Samsung pulled the deal with RealD to concentrate on OLED instead of 3D or even OLED with active 3D?

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...1320761315&rss

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by UltiResis

Seems that Samsung have signed up with Du-Pont for OLED printing tech and manufacture.

Du Pont reckon the can now "print a 50 screen in a matter of a couple of minutes and it is very cheap to do" "using a continuous ink method".

We could see the prices of OLED become cheap very quickly!

Yay a 50inch OLED next year for £10,000. Bargain

[UltiResis]

You know that would not surprise me even if it cost them only £200 to manufacture!

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr

Yay a 50inch OLED next year for £10,000. Bargain

I'll be first in line!!! Why not? Wasted enough cash on the 980!

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

I'll be first in line!!! Why not? Wasted enough cash on the 980!

Thats decent car money.

[UltiResis]

15 year life according to the article which is much less than they said before.

Quantum Dot Tech has a much better lifespan apparently so OLED need to improve on that 15 years. Then again I doubt there would be many TVs that would be kept for 15 years before being upgraded or something other than the screen going wrong anyway.

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by UltiResis

15 year life according to the article which is much less than they said before.

Quantum Dot Tech has a much better lifespan apparently so OLED need to improve on that 15 years. Then again I doubt there would be many TVs that would be kept for 15 years before being upgraded or something other than the screen going wrong anyway.

I was going to say the same thing- who here expects to keep a tv that long anyway? Blimey i wasn't expecting to keep my missus that long let alone a tv!

[Dr Spoon]

Dear DuPont,

My living room wall is about 4 meters across, grab your printers and lets have a wallpaper party!!

Love

Spoon, Phd

[wastedyuthe]

Right I'm off to bed now peeps- thanks for the laughs

We'd better get back on topic tomorrow before we're all banned

Goodnight

[HaRd2BeAr]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

Right I'm off to bed now peeps- thanks for the laughs

We'd better get back on topic tomorrow before we're all banned

Goodnight

Night mate

[HaRd2BeAr]

I'm off too, night guys.

[UltiResis]

Night Johnboy, Night Mary Ellen, Goodnight Grandma, Night fellas.

That's going to be the thing, fully flexible rollup printed OLED screens! Something we can all dream about owning one day, maybe.

[Outfoxed Ya]

Dimming zone fiasco aside this TV is a great TV
Yep it takes a little tinkering to get the PQ just how you want it but once you do it produces an awesome visual experience both in 2D and especially 3D
You just have to know what you're doing when it comes to altering the settings in order to make watching films such as Alien in a pitch dark room enjoyable
Here are some screen shots to prove my point.
Any out of focus shots are purely down to my camera not being on a tripod in a totally dark room but as you can see from the over exposure of some bright scenes that any haloing or banding whatsoever would definitely show up.
I used cinema mode with a few adjustments and LD on low. If I were to switch LD off then yes the blacks would get washed out but who'd wanna watch a movie like that? All shots were taken head on, not from an upward or side angle, (important as this is the usual watching angle for most people) from a distance of around 10 feet from the screen but I didn't use a wide angle lens as that distorts the horizontal plane.
Like I said before the ONLY time I see banding is when watching football.

[wastedyuthe]

Guys, it has already been confirmed by other users as well as myself- LD on Low produces stronger more noticeable banding artefacts on the 980T "non-prototype" compared to Medium. As u saw, the banding patterns show themselves on the rings of the planet on the very first shot- with LD on Low they would be even worse. It will take serious tweaking to make sure the banding is not as visible, halo's are at a minimum, and still have good blacks. I'll try when I get home and see what settings I end up with to accomplish that, then see if i can still actually see any picture at all afterwards if I haven't made it too dull!

[TexKeen]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

No, the D8000 plasma is a higher one which has a few extra features such as the ability to access the internet, arc, and an extra black filter to help with ambient lights above the tv. None of which bother me (my lighting is usually the one behind the tv). So I decided to go for the cheaper but still reportedly great model in case something else comes out next year.

Samsung LCD didn't impress me either with regards to banding, however the D8000 did have superb blacks and brightness during daylight. Easily comparable to the 980t in my opinion.

I don't know how Toshiba's plasma's compare to Samsung's plasma's, but it's good u have looked at all your alternatives available to u. Good luck with what ever u decide mate.

I checked out the D6900 at JL yesterday which proved quite difficult as all the TV,s are so crammed in i could only sit about 4ft away. The picture was a bit darker than i hoped but the colours looked more natural which was apparent as it was next to a Samsung led which looked artificial and as i have always been a bit of a crt man inc projectors Barco ect i have always liked a cinematic picture.
The screen looked quite reflective in dark scenes which was a bit worrying as i have a large bright lounge, also the screen was red hot.
I was hoping to see a Lw980t on display but nothing and the same with currys.
All the reviews give the D6900 glowing reports so i might just have to take the plunge and if i am not happy send it back.

Did yours come with a yellow sticker as this shows energy saving criteria's were met and the contrast reduced on these sets to save money but sacrifice PQ

[zAndy1]

Originally Posted by Outfoxed Ya

Dimming zone fiasco aside this TV is a great TV
Yep it takes a little tinkering to get the PQ just how you want it but once you do it produces an awesome visual experience both in 2D and especially 3D
You just have to know what you're doing when it comes to altering the settings in order to make watching films such as Alien in a pitch dark room enjoyable
Here are some screen shots to prove my point.
Any out of focus shots are purely down to my camera not being on a tripod in a totally dark room but as you can see from the over exposure of some bright scenes that any haloing or banding whatsoever would definitely show up.
I used cinema mode with a few adjustments and LD on low. If I were to switch LD off then yes the blacks would get washed out but who'd wanna watch a movie like that? All shots were taken head on, not from an upward or side angle, (important as this is the usual watching angle for most people) from a distance of around 10 feet from the screen but I didn't use a wide angle lens as that distorts the horizontal plane.
Like I said before the ONLY time I see banding is when watching football.

That's all very well but people can't buy that TV you've currently got can they, just goes to show what the 980T could and should have been. Still no better than a TV costing less than half what the 980T costs as well let's not forget. I'm pleased you're happy with your loaner , looking forward to hearing if u feel the same when you get your 980T...
Oh and btw to those asking about line bleed on my D6900 I can honestly say I've never seen any and trust me I know what it is having had a PX990, even posted pics of it on the PX990 thread at the time.

[Mrb1972]

Originally Posted by Outfoxed Ya

Dimming zone fiasco aside this TV is a great TV
Yep it takes a little tinkering to get the PQ just how you want it but once you do it produces an awesome visual experience both in 2D and especially 3D
You just have to know what you're doing when it comes to altering the settings in order to make watching films such as Alien in a pitch dark room enjoyable
Here are some screen shots to prove my point.
Any out of focus shots are purely down to my camera not being on a tripod in a totally dark room but as you can see from the over exposure of some bright scenes that any haloing or banding whatsoever would definitely show up.
I used cinema mode with a few adjustments and LD on low. If I were to switch LD off then yes the blacks would get washed out but who'd wanna watch a movie like that? All shots were taken head on, not from an upward or side angle, (important as this is the usual watching angle for most people) from a distance of around 10 feet from the screen but I didn't use a wide angle lens as that distorts the horizontal plane.
Like I said before the ONLY time I see banding is when watching football.

Can you post your exact settings, I have tried all sorts of settings with no joy