[PuntNL]

Originally Posted by KILLER NADS

Thanks mate for the advice, I tried playing a few games though with your settings and was comparing your movie settings with the default natural and standard. Straight away I could notice a washed out affect with all the colours seemingly dulled out.

I then decided to use yours as a starting point and calibrate it to how it Suits me. This has seemed to work and I get a pretty decent picture to how I wanted, although I didn't tinker with ur individual Color settings like rgb, White balance etc..

I still find it horrendously difficult to decide the best picture for myself

As you are still trying settings, just try to put in all of my settings (including color and white balance adjustments. Blue is undersaturated by default in the movie mode and I adjusted it slightly in mu colour space. If than you are still not satisfied, try going with the main color slider to 51 or 52 instead of mine 49.

Let me know if it works out.

One last thing: everyone has to do what he or she likes most when adjusting his TV, but going from the industry standard the 'cool' temperature is the least accurate of them all. Just saying...

[KILLER NADS]

Originally Posted by PuntNL

As you are still trying settings, just try to put in all of my settings (including color and white balance adjustments. Blue is undersaturated by default in the movie mode and I adjusted it slightly in mu colour space. If than you are still not satisfied, try going with the main color slider to 51 or 52 instead of mine 49.

Let me know if it works out.

One last thing: everyone has to do what he or she likes most when adjusting his TV, but going from the industry standard the 'cool' temperature is the least accurate of them all. Just saying...

thanks mate will give that a go. But does changing a setting like color by 2-3 really make a difference! If so, i can not tell at all until atleast i change a setting by 5-10.

Any idea why Blue is undersaturated so much that it appears washed out?

Im currently finding the Natural settings to be the best and find it to be the one i use the most, i have your settings saved in Movie Settings with a few changes to some settings but ive saved your RGB and color/white space settings, but i just dont seem to be using it much for games and movies. If you want i can post some pics to see how it compares between Movie and Natural.
In Natural I am just loving the colors especially when watching a animated bluray like Despicable Me! As all the colors seem real, but when in movie they just seem washed out.

[djtobyward]

Just booked a pro to come sort my set out... 295 pound. Does 4 hdmi for you. Bot with day and night mode.. So sky my xbox blueray all getting sorted out.. My friend just had his done.. And my god.. It is sick.. I did not know there are settings on the tv what we can't control... This pro has a computer to change it all.. I thought I would not make much diffrents.. But my mates tv is sick... Will post the settings I can when I get them....

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

...I did not know there are settings on the tv what we can't control... This pro has a computer to change it all..

I wonder if he would have access to controls that would help reduce the backlight bleed in corners or the edge of the screen a lot of owners have.

[PuntNL]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

Just booked a pro to come sort my set out... 295 pound. Does 4 hdmi for you. Bot with day and night mode.. So sky my xbox blueray all getting sorted out.. My friend just had his done.. And my god.. It is sick.. I did not know there are settings on the tv what we can't control... This pro has a computer to change it all.. I thought I would not make much diffrents.. But my mates tv is sick... Will post the settings I can when I get them....

Great to hear! Very curious to them as I am far from a pro ;-). When you will have him over?

Yesterday saw some things on the picture which didnt seem right, a very slight green tint in some dark scenes. But not sure, will try to sort that out the next days. Will also aim for a slightly higher brightness of 130 cd/m probably.
Calibrating the game mode is giving me a hard time.

[gaz2810i]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

Just booked a pro to come sort my set out... 295 pound. Does 4 hdmi for you. Bot with day and night mode.. So sky my xbox blueray all getting sorted out.. My friend just had his done.. And my god.. It is sick.. I did not know there are settings on the tv what we can't control... This pro has a computer to change it all.. I thought I would not make much diffrents.. But my mates tv is sick... Will post the settings I can when I get them....

Who are you getting to calibrate your set? I would love to know, thinking about it myself.

[djtobyward]

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 9
Contrast: 96
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 10
Colour: 50
Gamma: 2
R-Offset: 19
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 23
R-Gain: 20
G-Gain: 27
B-Gain: 21
Colour Space Red: R86 G2 B1
Colour Space Green: R0 G61 B0
Colour Space Blue: R3 G7 B92
Colour Space Yellow: R57 G50 B0
Colour Space Cyan: R0 G54 B56
Colour Space Magenta: R74 G4 B74
Interval 1: R10 G7 B7
Interval 2: R1 G-1 B1
Interval 3: R2 G0 B2
Interval 4: R0 G-2 B-2
Interval 5: R-1 G-3 B-4
Interval 6: R0 G-2 B-5
Interval 7: R-2 G-1 B-4
Interval 8: R0 G0 B-2
Interval 9: R-1 G0 B-1
Interval 10: R0 G1 B2

[KILLER NADS]

thanks for those settings. Will try those later today, do you use them only for watching films or games also? How are the colors in this setting do you see good natural colors or mostly washed out colors?

thanks

[justy101]

Originally Posted by KILLER NADS

thanks for those settings. Will try those later today, do you use them only for watching films or games also? How are the colors in this setting do you see good natural colors or mostly washed out colors?

thanks

Just tried those settings, look pretty good to me. Colours are nice and bold again, particularly the blue making the sky menus look much better.

[djtobyward]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 9
Contrast: 96
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 10
Colour: 50
Gamma: 2
R-Offset: 19
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 23
R-Gain: 20
G-Gain: 27
B-Gain: 21
Colour Space Red: R86 G2 B1
Colour Space Green: R0 G61 B0
Colour Space Blue: R3 G7 B92
Colour Space Yellow: R57 G50 B0
Colour Space Cyan: R0 G54 B56
Colour Space Magenta: R74 G4 B74
Interval 1: R10 G7 B7
Interval 2: R1 G-1 B1
Interval 3: R2 G0 B2
Interval 4: R0 G-2 B-2
Interval 5: R-1 G-3 B-4
Interval 6: R0 G-2 B-5
Interval 7: R-2 G-1 B-4
Interval 8: R0 G0 B-2
Interval 9: R-1 G0 B-1
Interval 10: R0 G1 B2

i also have black tone set to darker and dynamic detail set to medium.. it helps get rid of that washed out look. been told to put colour tone to standard..... i use this to watch movies and sky tv hd channels...

[PuntNL]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

i also have black tone set to darker and dynamic detail set to medium.. it helps get rid of that washed out look. been told to put colour tone to standard..... i use this to watch movies and sky tv hd channels...

Are those your calibrated settings?

[PuntNL]

Okay guys, I went over my last calibration as I told earlier and in the end did it almost all over. So quitte some changes, also aimend for a higher light output to find a nice dark/bright room balance (brightness is now at 130 cd/m against 121 cd/m in the previous settings).

HDMI2 - PLAYSTATION 3
PICTURE
Picture Mode	Movie
Backlight	8 (3D: 11)
Contrast	92
Brightness	48
Sharpness	15
Color	50
Tint	50/50
ADVANCED
Black Tone	Off
Dynamic Contrast	Off
Shadow Detail	0
Gamma	0
Color Space	Custom
Flesh Tone	0
Edge Enhancement	Off
Motion Lighting	Off
xvYCC	Off
Led Motion Plus	Off
PICTURE OPTIONS
Colour Tone	Warm2
Digital Noise Filter	Off
Mpeg Noise Filter	Off
HDMI Black level	Low
Film Mode	n/a
Motion Plus	Clear

	R	G	B
Colour Space Red	58	2	0
Colour Space Green	0	58	9
Colour Space Blue	7	0	54
Colour Space Yellow	48	53	7
Colour Space Cyan	0	54	58
Colour Space Magenta	56	4	45
R-Offset	20
G-Offset	24
B-Offset	24
R-Gain	19
G-Gain	26
B-Gain	25
	R	G	B
1	5	1	-2
2	2	0	-1
3	0	0	-1
4	-2	-3	-3
5	0	-2	-3
6	1	1	-4
7	2	3	0
8	1	2	0
9	-1	2	2
10	0	1	1

Curious what you guys think about them. So let me know.

Still not sure for 3D what to adjust. Only adjustment I now make is +3 in backlight (so 11 in this case)

[gaz2810i]

Thanks mate, I will try these out either when I get home from work tonight or when I wake up in the mornng.

For some reason I still can't seem to access HDMI Black Level, It is just stuck on Normal. Also looking at the AVS Forum it appears they have more settings to adjust like Cinem blacks etc

[Arctic Monkey]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 9
Contrast: 96
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 10
Colour: 50
Gamma: 2
R-Offset: 19
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 23
R-Gain: 20
G-Gain: 27
B-Gain: 21
Colour Space Red: R86 G2 B1
Colour Space Green: R0 G61 B0
Colour Space Blue: R3 G7 B92
Colour Space Yellow: R57 G50 B0
Colour Space Cyan: R0 G54 B56
Colour Space Magenta: R74 G4 B74
Interval 1: R10 G7 B7
Interval 2: R1 G-1 B1
Interval 3: R2 G0 B2
Interval 4: R0 G-2 B-2
Interval 5: R-1 G-3 B-4
Interval 6: R0 G-2 B-5
Interval 7: R-2 G-1 B-4
Interval 8: R0 G0 B-2
Interval 9: R-1 G0 B-1
Interval 10: R0 G1 B2

Really appreciate you posting these up. I've tried them and I seem to have a green tinge to the overall picture. Anyone else?

[PuntNL]

Problem I had as well in dark scenes with my first posted settings (one page back). The Sammy white balance seems to be very sensitive when it comes to green. My new posted settings above don't have that problems anymore (or at least for me that is).

[djtobyward]

Originally Posted by PuntNL

Are those your calibrated settings?

no mate... there my mates settings.. each tv is different tho.. cant wait for mine to get done

[djtobyward]

Originally Posted by Arctic Monkey

Really appreciate you posting these up. I've tried them and I seem to have a green tinge to the overall picture. Anyone else?

try changing the tint on the options will sort that out

[Arctic Monkey]

Originally Posted by djtobyward

no mate... there my mates settings.. each tv is different tho.. cant wait for mine to get done

Oh I thought these were the ones you had calibrated. When do you get that done mate? Punt I will try yours out tonight or tomorrow, will let you know how I get on.

[KILLER NADS]

Thanks Punt and DJ for your settings, didn't get time today but will try these tomorrow morning! Hopefully we will get there in the end with a awesome picture. Thanks again guys for your awesome postings!

[gaz2810i]

Right I am officially stumped, the only HDMi Source I can amend the Hdmi Black level settings is my PS3 all my others (TiVo, BD, HD DVD, XBox) it is greyed out and set as Normal. Considering on the PS3 side it seems to make an huge difference I am worried I am getting a lesser pic on all other inputs

[PuntNL]

Well guys stop te presses as I once again will do some things over. (Slightly) adjustes settings will come most definetely in the coming days. Still getting used to this advanced calibration, my meter, the discs and the software. Next one however which I will post will bemmy definite for a couple of months (things as motion plus and the 3D adjustments a side). Just to let you guys know..

LOL My wife is going crazy about my constant need to calibrate this TV, so will have to settle in the next days.

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EDIT: @DJtobyward, are those your mates? professional calibrated settings?

Working through my final calibration tonight after some advice from RickyJ (Britisch Chromapure dealer) again. Expect my finale settings tonight or otherwise probably tomorrow.

[Woodywizz]

Originally Posted by PuntNL

Okay guys, I went over my last calibration as I told earlier and in the end did it almost all over. So quitte some changes, also aimend for a higher light output to find a nice dark/bright room balance (brightness is now at 130 cd/m against 121 cd/m in the previous settings).




Curious what you guys think about them. So let me know.

Still not sure for 3D what to adjust. Only adjustment I now make is +3 in backlight (so 11 in this case)

Many thanks for this fella....just changed mine to these and it made what was a good picture into a now tremendous picture. My kids are now watching a movie on Disney HD and it is outstanding, jaw droppingly outstanding

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by PuntNL

Well guys stop te presses as I once again will do some things over. (Slightly) adjustes settings will come most definetely in the coming days. Still getting used to this advanced calibration, my meter, the discs and the software. Next one however which I will post will bemmy definite for a couple of months (things as motion plus and the 3D adjustments a side). Just to let you guys know..

LOL My wife is going crazy about my constant need to calibrate this TV, so will have to settle in the next days.

Keep up the good work mate. I'll be looking forward to trying out your settings when I get my next D8000 arrive, when ever that may be. Thanks for all your hard work

[gaz2810i]

I have to admit these new settings have changed my set entirely. It is single handedly masked some of my issues that I am exchanging the set due to. The settings are defo better that your last and I thought those were best, I just wish I could do the calibration myself so I can modify these to my own set, but unfortunately I don't have the kit.

I am gonna add though that I have actually changed a few things. I lowered the back light to 7, changed black Tone Dark, turned on Motion lighting as well as LED motion Plus. to me this works so I am very pleased.

Keep up the good work!!! We all owe you a lot mate, I LOT!

[wastedyuthe]

Originally Posted by gaz2810i

I am gonna add though that I have actually changed a few things. I lowered the back light to 7, changed black Tone Dark, turned on Motion lighting as well as LED motion Plus. to me this works so I am very pleased.

Keep up the good work!!! We all owe you a lot mate, I LOT!

Gaz, does this mean u won't be exchanging yours? Has it improved it that much?

[gaz2810i]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

Gaz, does this mean u won't be exchanging yours? Has it improved it that much?

I'm still going to go for the exchange but i now know that as long as the new one is not worse than the current one then I will most likely be happy. I am just hoping it won't be worse The thing is I now know where all the flaws are ad I will just keep spotting them and let it wear me down. At the best the new one will be just as bad and because I have found some good settings I hope to calibrate before I notice the flaws and hope I never do

[PuntNL]

Okay guys here are the latest settings. Curious if you will find these an improvement over the ones posted yesterday. These are my final for at least a couple of months. No major changes from the second one, but definitely advice you guys to try these as there are some improvements in the colour space I think and it has a rock solid gamma between 2.22 and 2.25. Thanks for the kind words and enjoy your sets! If there are any question I will be happy to help!

HDMI2 - PLAYSTATION 3
PICTURE
Picture Mode	Movie
Backlight	8 (3D: 11)
Contrast	92
Brightness	48
Sharpness	15
Color	49
Tint	50/50
ADVANCED
Black Tone	Off
Dynamic Contrast	Off
Shadow Detail	0
Gamma	0
Color Space	Custom
Flesh Tone	0
Edge Enhancement	Off
Motion Lighting	Off
xvYCC	Off
Led Motion Plus	Off
PICTURE OPTIONS
Colour Tone	Warm2
Digital Noise Filter	Off
Mpeg Noise Filter	Off
HDMI Black level	Low
Film Mode	n/a
Motion Plus	Clear

	R	G	B
Colour Space Red	63	0	0
Colour Space Green	4	53	4
Colour Space Blue	0	3	51
Colour Space Yellow	53	51	5
Colour Space Cyan	0	54	55
Colour Space Magenta	51	5	50
R-Offset	20
G-Offset	24
B-Offset	23
R-Gain	20
G-Gain	27
B-Gain	22
	R	G	B
1	5	0	2
2	2	1	0
3	0	0	0
4	-1	-2	-1
5	1	-1	-3
6	1	1	-3
7	3	3	0
8	0	2	0
9	0	2	1
10	0	0	0

Will test next days more with motion handling, curious to see what the led motion does and want to make up my mind on the motion plus thing.

[Vassago]

I will be going to see the 46" / 55" this coming week in store. Just in case (I'm presuming they haven't changed them) it still has factory settings, what would be the best settings for in store i.e. very bright? Thanks

[Vassago]

Did you know that if you turn Motion Plus off the moving picture resolution drops to around 650 lines?

[Vassago]

Originally Posted by wastedyuthe

Are u sure u guys are doing the right thing lowering sharpness so much?

I have tested this with the BD of Beowolf tonight as an example:

Sharpness at 10% :

Sharpness at 50% (notice the extra detail in her hair) :

I'm also going to have to change my settings again. Just went from Movie to Natural and noticed how drab my settings looked compared to that, and how my blacks seemed to have a green tint to them in comparison. Doesn't help when these settings look good enough in daylight, but not at night. Back to the drawing board.

So are you saying you need to input different settings for each mode i.e. Movie, sport, 3D, day viewing, night viewing etc?