[mb1357]

any sign of 37 or 40 inch 9 series being sold in UK?

http://www.harveynorman.ie/philips-4...l9606h-12.html

[rcraveiro]

Hi,

I'm from Portugal and i bought this TV 46PFL9706H/12, and i have the problem called dirty image.

There is something to minimize this effect?

thank you

[walmo]

Originally Posted by rcraveiro

Hi,

I'm from Portugal and i bought this TV 46PFL9706H/12, and i have the problem called dirty image.

There is something to minimize this effect?

thank you

Unfortunately, getting a refund is the only way to realistically minimise this effect. Don't watch any sport or anything where the background is predominantly one colour either, that'll also help.

Alternatively you could contact Phillips support who will tell you that it is one of your sources that causing the issue. After you have proven that it isn't anything to do with your sources they will tell you that there isn't actually any problem and it's just all in your mind, before putting their fingers in their ears and shouting "La la la la la la la".

[rcraveiro]

Originally Posted by walmo

Unfortunately, getting a refund is the only way to realistically minimise this effect. Don't watch any sport or anything where the background is predominantly one colour either, that'll also help.

Alternatively you could contact Phillips support who will tell you that it is one of your sources that causing the issue. After you have proven that it isn't anything to do with your sources they will tell you that there isn't actually any problem and it's just all in your mind, before putting their fingers in their ears and shouting "La la la la la la la".

the last part

I resolved my problem, i'm getting the refund and i will bought a Panasonic 50VT30.

Thks,

[timeless001]

Originally Posted by Dogboats

After playing with my new 46PFL9706 for a few days, I've realised how to get the best picture...

Turn everything off!

This brilliant TV comes with all the picture processing features turned on- straight out of the box. Inevitably, you're going to get artefacts such as colour banding, bloom, the "dirty screen" effect etc. - not to mention the video-like quality that stops movies looking like movies!

If you turn everything off, you can gradually reintroduce the picture processing elements - and leave out the stuff that has a detrimental effect. I ended up getting rid of the MPEG/noise reduction (which I'm pretty sure was causing the colour banding) and some other PerfectPixel stuff - but I kept the brilliant local dimming (for unbelievable contrast).

I now have great looking standard TV and DVD pictures and the HD and Blu-ray quality is beyond excellent. Can't wait to try out the 3D!

Hi Dogboats,

I am seriously considering purchasing the PFL9706.
Apart from the price, my main reservation is the 3D performance with some reviews saying it is disappointing with significant ghosting / crosstalk (e.g. the Techradar review by John Archer)... At the same time other reviews / awards are saying it is possibly the best active shutter 3D LCD/LED available.
(e.g. the EISA award or the Digital Versus review which stated:

"Oddly, we found that turning on the 'Perfect Contrast' feature reduced the appearance of crosstalk—interference between the signals for the left and right eye. It did such a good job, in fact, that this Philips TV isn't far behind Panasonic, whose TVs are widely admired as the best in the game.")

- I would be grateful if you could share your opinions on the 3D performance. If I were to purchase the set I would mainly be using the 3D mode for gaming but would appreciate an evaluation of any kind of 3D content that you have tried.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

[majid]

Hi
will you please write some main diffrences between 9705 . 9706 and 8606 .


which one is the newest?

Thanks

[mb1357]

Originally Posted by majid

Hi
will you please write some main diffrences between 9705 . 9706 and 8606 .


which one is the newest?

Thanks

Suggest best option is to look at the Philips UK site and compare specs.

9706 is the latest model, 9 series have the optimum features

[zlatko]

New SW ver. 14.095 for 7-8-9 series is out. Still no change log though.

[loowlevel]

Q555x_x.14.95.0 (Date published: 2012-02-01)
· Added an option to disable the deletion of channels in background install.
(Only applicable to K-models)
· Teletext is not working on ZIGGO channel. (Only applicable to country,
Netherlands)
· Ambilight flashes intermittently.

[Nuri58]

Is there a way to see some detailed status info (frame rate etc?)

[VARUS]

I am going for a smaller size in the 9000 series. What I have available in Hungary: 32pfl9606 (700EUR), 37pfl9606 (800EUR). I could see that 32" and 37" has edge lite display without Led Pro. Although one still can get a 40pfl9705 for 960 EUR) having led pro feature. If someone knows the technology behind, can you advise me which is the best to invest considering picture quality and other features? (40pfl9606 is not available in Hungary)

[zlatko]

@VARUS
Go for the 40PFL9705 - you will benefit both from bigger screen(size DOES matter!!!) and deeper blacks due to DirectLED. Featurewise 9606 and 9705 are nearly identical.

[mb1357]

Originally Posted by zlatko

@VARUS
Go for the 40PFL9705 - you will benefit both from bigger screen(size DOES matter!!!) and deeper blacks due to DirectLED. Featurewise 9606 and 9705 are nearly identical.

I would tend to agree; afterall the Direct LED is what makes these TV's stand out from the rest

Suppose it depends if your room will take a 40 in ; in my opinion too large a TV in a room looks awful. Styling wise I prefer the look/finish of the 9606 range to the 9705

[VARUS]

Thank you for your advise. I have nearly ordered the 32" when your comments arrived, then I changed to 40PFL9705, managed to get it for 880 EUR. It was a big dilemma, whether to go for the newest 2011 TVs (originally I wanted a small 32" one) but were not convinced whether they can deliver the same performence as the testwinner older brothers. But now it has been decided, try to find the best place for it.

Thanks a lot

[Radiomike]

I was intending to purchase a 46PFL9706 but their arrival in the UK was so delayed that I am now being swayed into waiting for the 07 series, the subject of a launch event in Hamburg. The 8007 may be my new love!

SPECIAL: Philips Roadshow - weitere Fakten plus Bilder (16.02.2011)

SPECIAL: Philips stellt acht neue TV-Serien auf der Roadshow vor (16.01.2011)

Don't be fooled by the dates. The articles are both 16.02.2012

[rogdodge]

Originally Posted by Radiomike

I was intending to purchase a 46PFL9706 but their arrival in the UK was so delayed that I am now being swayed into waiting for the 07 series, the subject of a launch event in Hamburg. The 8007 may be my new love!

SPECIAL: Philips Roadshow - weitere Fakten plus Bilder (16.02.2011)

SPECIAL: Philips stellt acht neue TV-Serien auf der Roadshow vor (16.01.2011)

Don't be fooled by the dates. The articles are both 16.02.2012

Are any of them Full-Backlit with Local Dimming, including Passive 3D?

[west79]

guys I've got a 52pfl9606 and I'm noticing some banding problems (if that's how they're called) here a picture:

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

so I found in the 2010 series this could be fixed by disabling an option in the service menu (smart bit enhanced I guess) but I can't find it.

I also have an 8605 and the setting in there.

Basically in the service menu of the 9606 the "Options" menu between "Dealer Options" and "Option numbers" is gone.

Is there a way to enable it? Did someone tried? Thanks!

[Har-One]

Originally Posted by west79

guys I've got a 52pfl9606 and I'm noticing some banding problems (if that's how they're called) here a picture:

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

so I found in the 2010 series this could be fixed by disabling an option in the service menu (smart bit enhanced I guess) but I can't find it.

I also have an 8605 and the setting in there.

Basically in the service menu of the 9606 the "Options" menu between "Dealer Options" and "Option numbers" is gone.

Is there a way to enable it? Did someone tried? Thanks!

Yeah that's what they are called. They seem very pronounced. I do not know whether there will be some setting to fix that. It seems that there isn't a single manufacturer without these sort of problems.

[Nuri58]

Originally Posted by west79

guys I've got a 52pfl9606 and I'm noticing some banding problems (if that's how they're called) here a picture:

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

This seems to be a static puicture on your panel, is that so? I have not seen the banding on static pictures only when panning or the like.

[west79]

Originally Posted by Nuri58

This seems to be a static puicture on your panel, is that so? I have not seen the banding on static pictures only when panning or the like.

yes it's a static picture but you can notice them also during football matches or images in motion with a prominent color.

I'm wondering if I should return it, hope Philips acknowledge this issue or it would be pretty much disappointing.

Still, any kind help with the service menu is appreciated.

[Nuri58]

Originally Posted by west79

yes it's a static picture but you can notice them also during football matches or images in motion with a prominent color.

I have the effect during football although not nearly that bad as your picture indicates. On static or near static pictures I have not seen it. Have you tried to alter the settings one by one and see if you can minimise it?

[west79]

Originally Posted by Nuri58

I have the effect during football although not nearly that bad as your picture indicates. On static or near static pictures I have not seen it. Have you tried to alter the settings one by one and see if you can minimise it?

yes thanks for asking, I tried everything with no luck, especially all the backlight and dynamic contrast values. It's bugging me how they removed the Options setting from the service menu, it's a step backward! guess I'll just contact Philips now.

[walmo]

Originally Posted by west79

Still, any kind help with the service menu is appreciated.

The banding can be turned off, I believe it's the 'Edge bit enhancement' option that needs turning off in the service menu. However they may have changed it slightly in the 2011 models from the 2010 so I'm guessing a bit, but that's how it's fixed on the 9705.

Originally Posted by west79

yes it's a static picture but you can notice them also during football matches or images in motion with a prominent color.

Sounds like you are describing the dirty screen effect, panel problem, you can't fix it so just return it. Philips won't acknowledge the problem.

Originally Posted by west79

I'm wondering if I should return it, hope Philips acknowledge this issue or it would be pretty much disappointing.

[Falls off chair laughing]

[eevil]

How I get in service menu???

[Har-One]

Originally Posted by walmo

The banding can be turned off, I believe it's the 'Edge bit enhancement' option that needs turning off in the service menu. However they may have changed it slightly in the 2011 models from the 2010 so I'm guessing a bit, but that's how it's fixed on the 9705.



Sounds like you are describing the dirty screen effect, panel problem, you can't fix it so just return it. Philips won't acknowledge the problem.



[Falls off chair laughing]

I think that standard with all manufacturers. It is easier to get blood from a stone than getting any of them to admit that there is a fault with their precious TV's.

[Nuri58]

Originally Posted by eevil

How I get in service menu???

Become a qualified techncian for Philips I take it

[Nuri58]

I have played around with a calibration DVD (JKP DVE HD Basics). It seems perfect picture with NO hint of dirty screen or banding on static images. However, with dynamic contrast and backlit enabled I can get the dirty screen appearing (as consequence of differences in backlit for the different segments). This happens when there are some few different coloured segment on an even background. So I may suspect a number of the dirty screens observations could be attributed to this.

[RocketRonnieRad]

Ah now I have had the pfl6606 twice due to this fault. Returned both and ended up with a Samsung d7k which so far have also gone back for bleed issues.

Originally Posted by Nuri58

I got the 9706, but it seems that the picture freezes for a split second twice or trice every so often (say every minute) ruining the experience. I wonder that it can have won any price with such problem, but maybe it's just my set suffering a fault? I still have a week to decide but it points towards returning if this continues.

[Nuri58]

Originally Posted by RocketRonnieRad

Ah now I have had the pfl6606 twice due to this fault. Returned both and ended up with a Samsung d7k which so far have also gone back for bleed issues.

I had mine onsite repaired and afterwards it didn't work at all so it was in the shop for three weeks. The suspision was the main board which was about the only thing they forgot to change so I am still waiting forthe technician to get around with a new main board (the Perfect Motion is not available on HDMI 1) but apart from that the issue is almost gone (using HDMI 2 for now, but I'd like it to work on the ARC as well)

[RocketRonnieRad]

Well I had 2 with the same issue - systematic issue.