[Wildpredator]

Originally Posted by davidcharles

leave motion plus off for blurays...it handles 24p material very well. There's a known hiccup with playback when motion plus is on that causes a slight judder, so leave it off.......i have motion plus on clear for tv viewing and off bluray

For info you can get away with using Custom Motion settings on 50hz content (Sky/Virgin/etc). I use Blur 10 / Judder 1 or 2. I think the reason you can’t use it on 24 or 60 fps material is because these frame rates aren’t divisible by 200 (the set is a 200Hz set) and it needs to drop a frame or repeat a frame here or there when interpolating. Whereas with your satellite or cable boxes that run at 50Hz it is divisible by 200 – hence no stutter.

I may be wrong here but just my experiences with the set.

I have had mine set to Blur 10 / Judder 2 on my Sky HD box and never experienced this at all – whereas ANY combination on Custom for 24 frame or 60 frame Blu-ray’s causes the stutter. What it is really puzzling though is that Clear doesn’t produce this error on Blu-ray’s. I flick between motion plus Off and Clear for Blu-ray’s as some I find the motion a little choppy and Clear helps with this.

What I’d really like to know is how it handles 24p material. Does the set actually display the material at a multiple of 24 (48Hz, 72Hz) as some other Pioneer and Panasonics do – or does it use 3:2 pull down and convert as the set is 60Hz native – causing the not so smooth and a little choppy motion? Just because it accepts 24p doesn’t mean it displays it in a multiple of 24.

Due to this I remember contemplating whether to set my Blu-ray player to 60Hz output and test which has better motion, basically moving the conversion from the TV to the player to see which did it better – I did mess about with this a few months back vaguely remember preferring the slowed down rate of 24p with motion plus Blur 10 / Judder 1 but couldn’t stand the stutter it produces every now and then

Been meaning to have another play in this area to find something I’m happy with so will let you know where I finally sit.

[salsheikh]

guys, can you tell me what samsung 3d blu-ray player to go for that has the 5.1 surround kit. went to comet today to return my old dvd home cinema kit (within 28 days and unopened) and replace it with a 3d blu-ray one but they were over £400!

or do i buy a 3d blu-ray dvd player and buy a seperate home cinema kit?

[mini76]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

guys, can you tell me what samsung 3d blu-ray player to go for that has the 5.1 surround kit. went to comet today to return my old dvd home cinema kit (within 28 days and unopened) and replace it with a 3d blu-ray one but they were over £400!

or do i buy a 3d blu-ray dvd player and buy a seperate home cinema kit?

I'm in the same position as you with this dilema.
I have been told to just buy an amp and seperate speakers.
Not really sure I want to go down this route tho.

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by mini76

I'm in the same position as you with this dilema.
I have been told to just buy an amp and seperate speakers.
Not really sure I want to go down this route tho.

Have either of you got a ps3 ?? They play blu-ray 3d ..... i am not sure how well but it could make that £400 more worth spending seperate .......

Just a idea

[salsheikh]

no ps3 unfortunately. the stupid store staff could event advise me on how to hook up a seperate amp and speaker set. i am thinking about buying either SAMSUNG BD-C5500/XEU BLU-RAY PLAYER for £99.99 or SAMSUNG BD-D5500 at £169.99 which is wifi ready (dont need a dongle) and buy the home cinema kit seperately which works out cheaper. sadly none of them play bbc iplayer or lovefilm even though it may say it on the box (aparently the Apps are not available yet?)

could I connect a dvd home cinema kit and the blu-ray player thru the digital output cable ? which could enable me to have the surround sound? so, £130 for surround sound & £100 for blu-ray player?

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

no ps3 unfortunately. the stupid store staff could event advise me on how to hook up a seperate amp and speaker set. i am thinking about buying either SAMSUNG BD-C5500/XEU BLU-RAY PLAYER for £99.99 or SAMSUNG BD-D5500 at £169.99 which is wifi ready (dont need a dongle) and buy the home cinema kit seperately which works out cheaper. sadly none of them play bbc iplayer or lovefilm even though it may say it on the box (aparently the Apps are not available yet?)

could I connect a dvd home cinema kit and the blu-ray player thru the digital output cable ? which could enable me to have the surround sound? so, £130 for surround sound & £100 for blu-ray player?

Well i have a (when i had a tv still looking atm) 5.1 samsung dvd set up (850w c460) which i think was good value for money.(would be a bit of hasse l updating the dvd play to a blu-ray ? as i think the current one acts as a amp i am unsure) (My PS3 is my blu-ray player which has 3d-blu-ray for if i need it in the future.I still haven't tried blu-ray due to getting a tv i returned and the ps3 on the saem day and i never got the couple of blu-rays in time before i sent the tv back.40"c580)

I then have my pc,xbox 360 and ps3 connected (when i have a tv) All though hdmi's and the optical from dvd to tv.All i need to do is switch the dvd player to optical Digital Input and what ever channel i am on it plays the sound for......

So yes that should work as i think your after the same thing ..........
I have them in my room and they arn't really needed or used though if i am honest as the tv sound is fine and i have Turtle beach x41's but i do like playing some music on them

Best of luck & I hope this helps you.

P.S The only difference is you would need both dvd and blu-ray player on where with the blu-ray package it be just the one.

[mini76]

I have a PS3 and also the 3D player as well. What I dont have is a speaker system and this is what I want.
But O'Why do I HAVE TO BUY A SEPERATE BOX, (Samsung) To accomplish this for a £400+ price tag.

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by mini76

I have a PS3 and also the 3D player as well. What I dont have is a speaker system and this is what I want.
But O'Why do I HAVE TO BUY A SEPERATE BOX, (Samsung) To accomplish this for a £400+ price tag.

You have a ps3 and a 3d blu-ray player ?

The c460 is reasonable at £129 at dixons with a dvd upscaling dvd player. You could just use it like i do posted above Except my ps3 would be my 3d blu-ray player if i had a 3d tv.

[salsheikh]

thanks for the advice Gunners4Life, I am gonna have to run a normal home cinema system and a 3d blu-ray player just for me to save £150!
also, am I right in saying that there is no Apps for Samsung tv/DVD players for BBC iplayer and Lovefilm? if not then that means i then have to connect my pc to run these - what a PITA

[cuke2u]

Both my TV and my Samsung BD player have those two widgets...
Chris

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

thanks for the advice Gunners4Life, I am gonna have to run a normal home cinema system and a 3d blu-ray player just for me to save £150!
also, am I right in saying that there is no Apps for Samsung tv/DVD players for BBC iplayer and Lovefilm? if not then that means i then have to connect my pc to run these - what a PITA

Mmmm i would guess you would have to as i don't think it has them. I have my pc connected to my tv (when i did have one) so this wasn't a problem for me. If you want them then it mostlikely be worth getting a ps3 instead ..... as that has bbc iplayer,itv and c4 and film4. Blu-ray 3d player too. But do check into that ..........

Just a thought as it sounds as if you want it .... (You could buy a pre-owned 40gb on ebay for less than £140 or wait for a good offer to pop up like i did when i brought mine)

[salsheikh]

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Both my TV and my Samsung BD player have those two widgets...
Chris

but do they work? have you used them?

[salsheikh]

Originally Posted by Gunners4Life

Mmmm i would guess you would have to as i don't think it has them. I have my pc connected to my tv (when i did have one) so this wasn't a problem for me. If you want them then it mostlikely be worth getting a ps3 instead ..... as that has bbc iplayer,itv and c4 and film4. Blu-ray 3d player too. But do check into that ..........

Just a thought as it sounds as if you want it .... (You could buy a pre-owned 40gb on ebay for less than £140 or wait for a good offer to pop up like i did when i brought mine)

apologies, dont know how to multi post!

dont really fancy getting a ps3 as my 2 boys would then want me to buy loads of games for them and they already have psp's, Wii and PS2!

gonna have to weigh up my options as i love to have my sound loud and bassy when watching movies/listening to music. cant do it with the tv speakers.

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

apologies, dont know how to multi post!

dont really fancy getting a ps3 as my 2 boys would then want me to buy loads of games for them and they already have psp's, Wii and PS2!

gonna have to weigh up my options as i love to have my sound loud and bassy when watching movies/listening to music. cant do it with the tv speakers.

Another option would be a good 5.1 logitech ect pc set up ? with the blu-ray 3d and just plug it into the headphone jack on the tv ?

Would cost you under £200 ease if that would be good enough ?

Logitech X-530 PC Multimedia Home Theatre Speaker System - 70 Watt (Total) (5.1): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

£55 for speakers, its just another option you could use if you wanted to save the £££

[salsheikh]

now that sounds like a plan, thanks! was hoping to keep it all samsung...

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

now that sounds like a plan, thanks! was hoping to keep it all samsung...

I know i am after a 37" tv as i don't like samsungs own panel for use with a pc. Returned a 40"c580 due to this and the only way i can stay with samsung is with a 37" as its 100% not samsungs panel. Did have a 46" c580 but was too big for my room and after a couple of months the eye strain was too much so took another loose on a tv. DUe to having the 5.1 samsung which i got when i brought the 46" i want to keep it the same.

I also have the issue of possible buzzzzing which is a common problem on many 37" tvs. 3D is too big for my room and i am not interested at the moment init.

Best of luck i am sure their might be a samsung 5.1 out there ? pc speaker wise. Does seem the cheapest route but i doubt their be as good as the 5.1 dvd player option.

Glad it may help you

[salsheikh]

currently looking at options on ebay too...

[mini76]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

currently looking at options on ebay too...

I have the 3D Blue-ray player as it came as a package.
Problem is , It is not an amp. so cant run speakers through it.
Do have 5.1 PC speakers , That I no longer use and did not think of this option.
will give it a go and see if it works.

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by mini76

I have the 3D Blue-ray player as it came as a package.
Problem is , It is not an amp. so cant run speakers through it.
Do have 5.1 PC speakers , That I no longer use and did not think of this option.
will give it a go and see if it works.

Good job i mentioned it then
Try in both jacks as i imagine there is 2

[mini76]

Originally Posted by Gunners4Life

Good job i mentioned it then
Try in both jacks as i imagine there is 2

I think I have 3 jacks if I remember correctly on the speaker leads.

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by mini76

I think I have 3 jacks if I remember correctly on the speaker leads.

I was talking about the tv Possibly only 2.1 might work then unless a 3.5mm would work splitting to a 3 way 3.5mm input ....

[mini76]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

but do they work? have you used them?

So do mine. Both work too.

[mini76]

Originally Posted by Gunners4Life

I was talking about the tv Possibly only 2.1 might work then unless a 3.5mm would work splitting to a 3 way 3.5mm input ....

I have 2.1 speakers running off the Wii.
Really am looking at a 5.1 system to compliment the movies and stuff
Just not happy , That I need lots of boxes to make it all work.
I know I will have to go down this road eventually

[Gunners4Life]

Originally Posted by mini76

I have 2.1 speakers running off the Wii.
Really am looking at a 5.1 system to compliment the movies and stuff
Just not happy , That I need lots of boxes to make it all work.
I know I will have to go down this road eventually

2 of them plugged into each other would create 3 inputs from one. If it would work i don't know .....

3.5MM JACK HEADPHONE SPLITTER CABLE 2 WAY 3.5 LEAD on eBay (end time 10-Apr-11 18:30:38 BST)

[Wildpredator]

If you do buy an 'all in one system' make sure there is an option to delay the audio as these TV's have quite a long response time.

It's the reason I sold my HTIB and upgraded to an amp and seperates - the audio was out of synch to the video and my old system didn't have an option to dial it out.

[Wildpredator]

Originally Posted by Gunners4Life

Another option would be a good 5.1 logitech ect pc set up ? with the blu-ray 3d and just plug it into the headphone jack on the tv ?

Would cost you under £200 ease if that would be good enough ?

Logitech X-530 PC Multimedia Home Theatre Speaker System - 70 Watt (Total) (5.1): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

£55 for speakers, its just another option you could use if you wanted to save the £££

My old set was a logitech Z-5500 - amazing system for price and still selling well:
Logitech Z-5500 Speakers 5.1 Surround Sound 505W RMS | Ebuyer.com

Logitech Z5500 Digital PC Multimedia Home Theatre Speaker System - 505 Watt (Total): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

but you can't delay audio so I'd assume the same on cheaper versions - just be aware of that before you buy.

[cuke2u]

Originally Posted by salsheikh

but do they work? have you used them?

Hi, yes they do, perfectly thanks...
Chris

[salsheikh]

Originally Posted by Wildpredator

My old set was a logitech Z-5500 - amazing system for price and still selling well:
Logitech Z-5500 Speakers 5.1 Surround Sound 505W RMS | Ebuyer.com

Logitech Z5500 Digital PC Multimedia Home Theatre Speaker System - 505 Watt (Total): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

but you can't delay audio so I'd assume the same on cheaper versions - just be aware of that before you buy.

how bloody expensive

[salsheikh]

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, yes they do, perfectly thanks...
Chris

cheers Chris

[salsheikh]

Originally Posted by mini76

I have the 3D Blue-ray player as it came as a package.
Problem is , It is not an amp. so cant run speakers through it.
Do have 5.1 PC speakers , That I no longer use and did not think of this option.
will give it a go and see if it works.

get on it man and tell us how it sounds